Thread about Jesus - Questions, Bible Verses and Prayer Requests

Acts 17:24
"24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands"

Sooo....why do churches exist again?
 
Acts 17:24
"24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands"

Sooo....why do churches exist again?
.....where else are you going to be taught about The Lord?
 
Acts 17:24
"24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands"

Sooo....why do churches exist again?
The church is the body of Christ. The building is the location where the church comes to fellowship

with each other.
 
How can you base the most important aspects of your life on a book that was written based on second hand accounts. Dissected to only the parts that suited the world views of a small group of people in a time unlike ours. Translated numerous times with many meanings lost in those translations. Then completely overhauled to fit one person's idea of what it should be?
It is inspired by God, without fallacy. Woven together by God for only those who 

humble themselves and believe in his promises.

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
 
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*Hits blunt*...

If God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, knows the past and future, knows us yesterday and today,
knows us before we exist and long after were gone, knows our hearts and minds...


Why do we need to pray?...
Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven (Matt 6:10)
 
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It is inspired by God, without fallacy. Woven together by God for only those who 
humble themselves and believe in his promises.

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

But that's just it, it's not without fallacy. There are chapters never seen by modern eyes deemed inappropriate by the Vatican. Specifically the book of Enoch which states that all sinners have a chance at redemption even those in hell. So that negates everything else in the entire book. It's contradiction on top of contradiction. Jesus himself was a contradiction. Not so much one man but an amalgamation of several figures that were "born" of immaculate conception, performed "miracles" and died by crucifixion.

Oh, and where does the bible mention, dinosaurs, cavemen, continental shift? Because there's scientific evidence of all of that.
 
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Genesis 15:12-14

12 As the sun was setting, Abram fell into a deep sleep, and a thick and dreadful darkness came over him. 13 Then the Lord said to him, “Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there. 14 But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions."

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Who would these people happen to be?
 
Exodus 12: 40-42

40 The time the Israelites had stayed in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. 41 At the end of four hundred and thirty years, on this very date, all the armies of the Lord left the land of Egypt. 42 This was a night of vigil for the Lord, when he brought them out of the land of Egypt; so on this night all Israelites must keep a vigil for the Lord throughout their generations.

@hallywoodxo

I believe these are Abram's descendants mentioned in the verses you referenced. 
 
Exodus 12: 40-42

40 
The time the Israelites had stayed in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. 41 
At the end of four hundred and thirty years, on this very date, all the armies of the Lord left the land of Egypt. 42 
This was a night of vigil for the Lord, when he brought them out of the land of Egypt; so on this night all Israelites must keep a vigil for the Lord throughout their generations.

@hallywoodxo



I believe these are Abram's descendants mentioned in the verses you referenced. 


Only problem with that is there is no historical proof that lends credit to that what so ever...
 
 
There are no contradictions in the bible. All the verses people claim to be contradicted can be easily

seen to be clear if one reads the context, looks at the customs of the time or if you just read it and not 

rely on someone on the internet telling you.

The other books like Enoch and Maccabees and etc. are not inspired at all.

God does not contradict himself. His promise of salvation to all who believe

will not change.

Which individuals? Horus and the Roman and Egyptian gods?

Look at the original sources and you'll know that all these stories of counterfeiting are all fiddles.

Theres enough historical evidence to know Jesus lived, resurrected and performed miracles.

The question for you is, He said he is God, do you believe it or not?

Most important answer you'll ever give.

The term dinosaur wasn't used until the 1800s. The book of Job describes the behemoth, a land animal, with a long tail, that is

a herbivore. A Sauropod most likely.

Cavemen as in people who lived in caves or the hairy men as depicted in evolution charts?

People living in caves is nothing uncommon in the time period of the Bible. Lot lived in a cave with his daughters, as so did David when he was hiding from King Saul.

If you mean men with weird shaped heads, then thats another discussion.

The Bible makes a possibility that the view of Pangea is possible in Genesis 1:9

And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so.
In the end it isn't absence of proof that makes most deny Christ and the Bible.​
It is a problem with the heart.​
 
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Why would a great nation like Egypt want to record a great loss?

Look for 2450 B.C. for Exodus.
So when history doesn't exist just make it up to suit your needs?

But I'll play the game:
[h3]"Conflict with the Archaeology of Egypt"[/h3]
The biblical record claims rather forcefully that the Exodus was immediately preceded by a whole series of national disasters in Egypt. These included the complete pollution of the Nile, infestation of the land with frogs, gnats (or lice), and great swarms of insects, death of all Egyptian livestock, boils on all the people, destruction on all standing grains by hail, stripping of all vegetation in the land by locusts, complete darkness in the land for three days, and finally, death of all first-born sons throughout the land of Egypt. Furthermore, the Israelites not only deprived Egypt of its slave labor when they left, they also despoiled the land by carrying away much of its wealth in the form of gold, silver and clothing (Exodus 12:36). And, finally, the pharaoh and his army were drowned (Exodus 14:5-15:21), depriving the nation of its armed forces.

One would certainly expect to find the mark of this national disaster in the archaeological record of Egypt. Events of this sort are not difficult to locate archaeologically. However, at the traditional ca.  1447 B.C. date for the Exodus the opposite is found. Egypt is seen to be prospering.

The "late date" for the Exodus fares no better. Merneptah left a record of his military success in Palestine in which he mentions that he decimated Israel. This single inscription guarantees that Israel was established as a nation in Palestine by the reign of Merneptah, forcing the date of the Exodus into the early part of the reign of Ramesses II at the latest. But, as with the "early date" above, there is no sign of anything which could possibly correspond to the biblical Exodus in the reign of this pharaoh or his immediate predecessors. Life carried on as usual in Egypt all through this time.

So there that idea goes. But since Egypt is wiping out history because they're attempting to hide the "atrocious" things they've done, why in the hell would Rome not do the same thing when they crucified Jesus?

Bottom line, there is no historical evidence for Jesus or darn near anyone in the bible to ever exist. It's a story blatantly ripped out of ancient Kemit that prophesized what would happen to the black people of America today. 

If yall wanna bible thump and spread lies that yall have been brainwashed with cool, but at least tell the people yall are brainwashing up front what yall are doing. Furthermore, tell them it's a stolen story and when things don't make sense your liable to make up history or bend scriptures how you see fit. And if you don't know be honest and say you don't know. Come off the high horse and be straight forward that you might've converted to something you really have no idea about outside the context of how it's been presented to you. With that said, if anyone disagrees with what I'm saying I will gladly take on a scholarly challenge and prove you wrong.

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Most people that have turned away from GOD & CHRISTIANITY have been influenced by the society & the media but little do they know most people in the media follow the teachings of Aleister Crowley thats why most people have this "I do what I want" mentality.. ALESISTER CROWLEY was a mad man he practiced the OCCULT, BLACK MAGIC &
SATANISM 2 of his most famous quotes is

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"
"One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad."

if you follow those types of teachings the world would be in chaos which thats why the world is the way because the media has brainwashed people....If you look around & pay attention one will see that alot of these people in the entertainment industry have quoted CROWLEY alot...
 
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I say this lightly, but at the end of the day life is just energy. Crowley did some dark stuff but he mastered the "force" aka darth vader.

He has a better understanding the most christians,
 
So when history doesn't exist just make it up to suit your needs?

But I'll play the game:

[h3]"Conflict with the Archaeology of Egypt"[/h3]

The biblical record claims rather forcefully that the Exodus was immediately preceded by a whole series of national disasters in Egypt. These included the complete pollution of the Nile, infestation of the land with frogs, gnats (or lice), and great swarms of insects, death of all Egyptian livestock, boils on all the people, destruction on all standing grains by hail, stripping of all vegetation in the land by locusts, complete darkness in the land for three days, and finally, death of all first-born sons throughout the land of Egypt. Furthermore, the Israelites not only deprived Egypt of its slave labor when they left, they also despoiled the land by carrying away much of its wealth in the form of gold, silver and clothing (Exodus 12:36). And, finally, the pharaoh and his army were drowned (Exodus 14:5-15:21), depriving the nation of its armed forces.
One would certainly expect to find the mark of this national disaster in the archaeological record of Egypt. Events of this sort are not difficult to locate archaeologically. However, at the traditional ca. 1447 B.C. date for the Exodus the opposite is found. Egypt is seen to be prospering.
The "late date" for the Exodus fares no better. Merneptah left a record of his military success in Palestine in which he mentions that he decimated Israel. This single inscription guarantees that Israel was established as a nation in Palestine by the reign of Merneptah, forcing the date of the Exodus into the early part of the reign of Ramesses II at the latest. But, as with the "early date" above, there is no sign of anything which could possibly correspond to the biblical Exodus in the reign of this pharaoh or his immediate predecessors. Life carried on as usual in Egypt all through this time.



So there that idea goes. But since Egypt is wiping out history because they're attempting to hide the "atrocious" things they've done, why in the hell would Rome not do the same thing when they crucified Jesus?

Bottom line, there is no historical evidence for Jesus or darn near anyone in the bible to ever exist. It's a story blatantly ripped out of ancient Kemit that prophesized what would happen to the black people of America today. 

If yall wanna bible thump and spread lies that yall have been brainwashed with cool, but at least tell the people yall are brainwashing up front what yall are doing. Furthermore, tell them it's a stolen story and when things don't make sense your liable to make up history or bend scriptures how you see fit. And if you don't know be honest and say you don't know. Come off the high horse and be straight forward that you might've converted to something you really have no idea about outside the context of how it's been presented to you. With that said, if anyone disagrees with what I'm saying I will gladly take on a scholarly challenge and prove you wrong.






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You forgot to add the end of that article:

"Conclusion

The lack of secular archaeological/historical evidence for the Exodus and Conquest at the conventional dates has caused most scholars today to conclude that the Bible's accounts of the Exodus and Conquest are fictitious. THIS IS THE WRONG CONCLUSION. The conventional dates are all that is wrong. They are faulted both biblically and archaeologically, as seen above. They are, in fact, a thousand years too recent. "
 
You forgot to add the end of that article:

"Conclusion

The lack of secular archaeological/historical evidence for the Exodus and Conquest at the conventional dates has caused most scholars today to conclude that the Bible's accounts of the Exodus and Conquest are fictitious. THIS IS THE WRONG CONCLUSION. The conventional dates are all that is wrong. They are faulted both biblically and archaeologically, as seen above. They are, in fact, a thousand years too recent. "
Left that part out intentionally because it's another case of people bending history to fit the bible events.

But then again I also left out how you dodged my questions about why you would follow a religion that had to be beaten into our people, and how you more or less accept the european as your savior for introducing you into christianity. So to be fair lets call it even.
 
Left that part out intentionally because it's another case of people bending history to fit the bible events.


But then again I also left out how you dodged my questions about why you would follow a religion that had to be beaten into our people, and how you more or less accept the european as your savior for introducing you into christianity. So to be fair lets call it even.

How does that bend history in the same article that you chose to use as a source?

I addressed that same question about 50 pages ago.
 
That, the one about gods flawed creations, god creating the temptation and the devil, the one about God hating the mentally challenged because they were born damned to hell without the ability to accept him.
 
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