Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

Even after the pics of him release people still believe Wilson was in danger. Dude didn't even have a busted lip.

Damn sure didn't have a broken orbital bone like some idiots in this thread believed.
 
Bennyhinn said:
 
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 That's on my way home. Can I record it and post it on here? WORLDSTAR!!! 
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We aint violent. I just want to see if he's gonna same the **** in front of black folks and other Mexicans who don't feel justice was served.

I want to see him tell us with a straight face that MB is bigger than NFL linebackers.
 
It saddens me as a black man to see my people looting, but I actually understand why it's happening and the rationale behind it. People are angry and have felt a wave of desperation and inequality long before this shooting in hood's around the country. I say hood because until the treatment of those impoverished in our country changes it's not fair to call where our fellow Americans live a "community".

I understand the anger, I hope that this all sparks significant change rather than more violence and crime. Body cameras for example would be very significant to me. We have the technology and the means to make this happen all over the country. No excuses for Darren Wilson to not have a functioning camera on his SUV.
 
Mamba MVP said:
Just as I suspected no answer to the question. So deflect and make a false assumption.
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my dude I been in your shoes and i come from old money. Like I said there are good and bad people. Some with titles and others with not. I can't lump everyone into the same category because of a few. If because of your bad experiences with cops every cop is out to get us, the you are IMHO wrong. When I made my generalization it was base on his comment of poor black people. You wanted to add the extra layer to the scenario. I just refuse to argue with a dude that will not see my point of view. Which you obviously don't.
 
I understand the looting and violence also. I dont agree with it but like someone else said. DW's neighborhood shouldve been targeted and everyone who had a hand in this repulsive decision made.

if anything
 
SoleWoman said:
I understand the looting and violence also. I dont agree with it but like someone else said. DW's neighborhood shouldve been targeted and everyone who had a hand in this repulsive decision made.

if anything
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The National guard was 100% there for that reason ready to shoot anyone dead. They ain't intervene because they wanted Ferguson to burn to the ground, but the second people started pressing the police station guns were drawn & tear gas was plentiful.
 
doubt the klan was there. in a town thats 68% black they knew they wouldve been outnumbered and targeted.
 
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The National guard was 100% there for that reason ready to shoot anyone dead. They ain't intervene because they wanted Ferguson to burn to the ground, but the second people started pressing the police station guns were drawn & tear gas was plentiful.
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which is the real reason they delayed the announcement. they wanted to make sure they had enough people to protect those places.
 
Keko Jones said:
my dude I been in your shoes and i come from old money. Like I said there are good and bad people. Some with titles and others with not. I can't lump everyone into the same category because of a few. If because of your bad experiences with cops every cop is out to get us, the you are IMHO wrong. When I made my generalization it was base on his comment of poor black people. You wanted to add the extra layer to the scenario. I just refuse to argue with a dude that will not see my point of view. Which you obviously don't.
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Lol wut? Again when did I ever state that every cop is out to get us? You again ASSUMING that's the case. I asked for an expanded view on your take of environment playing a factor which I don't even disagree with in totality, just that's it's a lot of people and situations where those circumstances don't apply that see the same results that the poor inner city kids do. That's all, but obviously your old money reading comprehension isn't very good, so I'll let it rest.
 
Mamba MVP said:
Lol wut? Again when did I ever state that every cop is out to get us? You again ASSUMING that's the case. I asked for an expanded view on your take of environment playing a factor which I don't even disagree with in totality, just that's it's a lot of people and situations where those circumstances don't apply that see the same results that the poor inner city kids do. That's all, but obviously your old money reading comprehension isn't very good, so I'll let it rest.
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no partner .. You just arguing for sake of arguing .. I reply to why poor black kids feel this way and I also gave examples of how urban kids are thought that cops are out to get them if they don't behave. As a society we teach our kids that if they do bad or misbehave the cops are going to get them. Countless time I have heard inner and urban tell their kids "see the light" you better behave or the cops going to get you.

But I further went to elaborate more inner problems. However since they didn't pertain or you claim to you. You jumped up and said what about urban kids that never had that interaction. Well I wasnt talking about them obviously neither did the comment pertain to them .... I guess you just wanted a specific answer to that question ...

I can agree that when u talk about middle class urban kids and even rich kids we have different problems .. We get profile because we are in what some cops determine we shouldn't be whether it be the neighbourhood the car the time and place etc.

However those are our problems and we further infuriate things by throwing is because we black Hispanic or whatever. That's obvious but why not hit them where it hurts? Is there a problem officer? Why are you stoping me? Are you patroling my streets? Are you doing what as. Tax payer im paying for? Etc. Not all cops are the same not all people are the same ... Be better do better ...

Does that answer your question ... Dude said reading comprehension but couldn't comprehend I wasn't answering his question but the original question ... Lmao ... Smh
 
you know whats funny if you google and search white men killed by police officers or white men killed by black officers google gets a brain fart and show white officers killing black/spanish ppl.....
 
All of this could have been avoided if Brown would have just walked to the sidewalk and didn't pop off at the mouth to the Cop.
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This is precisely the problem.  "Backtalk" is not a capital offense.  

Drunken frat boys who shove cops don't wind up lying in the street for 4 hours with a half dozen bullet wounds.  

What, did Wilson need to put Brown "in his place?"  Did he need to show him "who's boss?" 

I shouldn't have to elaborate on the implications of this.  

As for the facts, we're talking about a child who was, at the very least, critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away.  To fire again, at that point, is not rational.  Period. 

So, in all probability, we're dealing with one or two irrational thought processes:  

1)  Rage.  With the "threat" contained, Wilson impulsively executed Brown in a moment of anger.  (Which fits in with this whole "backtalk/respect" nonsense, and requires nothing more than an emotional pull of the trigger.) 

2)  Fear.  Wilson believes he's 150 feet from being obliterated by Benjamin Grimm in flip flops.  

Of these, most people seem to accept fear as valid  - even justified.  That's not very encouraging if you, or anyone you care about, fits "the description."  

6'4" is not "giant."  Randy Quaid is 6'4".  Somehow, they managed to take him in alive. 

It's likely that personal opinions on this case will depend on what we see as a greater danger, and a more plausible threat:

Being randomly killed by a big scary "thug", or being gunned down on the street by an armed coward who thinks you're a thug.  

This isn't in dispute:  a child critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away  was shot to death by someone bound by duty and oath to protect and serve.  

That result is not acceptable in a civilized society.  All the other stuff is extraneous.  Police took greater care bringing the Boston Marathon bomber in alive - and he was armed. 

The very concept of lethal "self defense" is deeply problematic.  As an agent of the law, you should work to ensure due process and to protect the public.  Spraying bullets in the middle of a public street over irrational fear does not serve the public good.  This isn't Judge Dredd.  

We live in a country that supposedly prides itself in its innovation and its pioneering spirit.  How is it that we're landing probes on comets, but not making it our priority, as a society, to develop nonlethal means of self-defense, and making this standard issue for police officers?  How many lives would be saved, both in arrest scenarios and among all those who currently keep guns at home for "self defense?"  Instead, we're arming them with surplus military hardware and a false sense of unimpeachable righteousness.  

Flawed, prejudiced, and impulsive human beings should not have instantaneous, unilateral power of life and death over our children and fellow citizens.  

A civilized society does not do this.  
 
I love when debates about topical issues devolve into supremacy arguments, unfounded conspiracy theories, and ad hominem attacks on people's intelligence :smh:
 
Methodical Management said:
 
This is precisely the problem.  "Backtalk" is not a capital offense.  

Drunken frat boys who shove cops don't wind up lying in the street for 4 hours with a half dozen bullet wounds.  

What, did Wilson need to put Brown "in his place?"  Did he need to show him "who's boss?" 

I shouldn't have to elaborate on the implications of this.  

As for the facts, we're talking about a child who was, at the very least, critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away.  To fire again, at that point, is not rational.  Period. 

So, in all probability, we're dealing with one or two irrational thought processes:  

1)  Rage.  With the "threat" contained, Wilson impulsively executed Brown in a moment of anger.  (Which fits in with this whole "backtalk/respect" nonsense, and requires nothing more than an emotional pull of the trigger.) 

2)  Fear.  Wilson believes he's 150 feet from being obliterated by Benjamin Grimm in flip flops.  

Of these, most people seem to accept fear as valid  - even justified.  That's not very encouraging if you, or anyone you care about, fits "the description."  

6'4" is not "giant."  Randy Quaid is 6'4".  Somehow, they managed to take him in alive. 

It's likely that personal opinions on this case will depend on what we see as a greater danger, and a more plausible threat:

Being randomly killed by a big scary "thug", or being gunned down on the street by an armed coward who thinks you're a thug.  

This isn't in dispute:  a child critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away  was shot to death by someone bound by duty and oath to protect and serve.  

That result is not acceptable in a civilized society.  All the other stuff is extraneous.  Police took greater care bringing the Boston Marathon bomber in alive - and he was armed. 

The very concept of lethal "self defense" is deeply problematic.  As an agent of the law, you should work to ensure due process and to protect the public.  Spraying bullets in the middle of a public street over irrational fear does not serve the public good.  This isn't Judge Dredd.  

We live in a country that supposedly prides itself in its innovation and its pioneering spirit.  How is it that we're landing probes on comets, but not making it our priority, as a society, to develop nonlethal means of self-defense, and making this standard issue for police officers?  How many lives would be saved, both in arrest scenarios and among all those who currently keep guns at home for "self defense?"  Instead, we're arming them with surplus military hardware and a false sense of unimpeachable righteousness.  

Flawed, prejudiced, and impulsive human beings should not have instantaneous, unilateral power of life and death over our children and fellow citizens.  

A civilized society does not do this.  
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Honestly...

I can sit here and say this was wrong but 1. I'm not a cop 2. I wasn't there 3. Just because you don't fear something or would of have handle things differently does not mean the next person will ... 4. Cops have a very difficult job and split seconds at time to make a life decision. I don't want that job.


We can sit back analize and determine what happen but 12 people decided.
 
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Can we up the rep limit based on years on nt????
I'm all out of reps and would like to give u one
Like every time u post in these threads
U are able to convey what I can't sometimes because of my anger
And without being disrespectful
 
His testimony makes it seem as Mike Brown was some kind of Sebastian Shaw type, getting stronger with every bullet fired into him. Really sickening stuff.

so sick of everyone saying "I'm just doing my job." tired excuse
 
Methodical Management said:
This is precisely the problem.  "Backtalk" is not a capital offense.  
Drunken frat boys who shove cops don't wind up lying in the street for 4 hours with a half dozen bullet wounds.  


 
What, did Wilson need to put Brown "in his place?"  Did he need to show him "who's boss?" 
I shouldn't have to elaborate on the implications of this.  


As for the facts, we're talking about a child who was, at the very least, critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away.  To fire again, at that point, is not rational.  Period. 


So, in all probability, we're dealing with one or two irrational thought processes:  


1)  Rage.  With the "threat" contained, Wilson impulsively executed Brown in a moment of anger.  (Which fits in with this whole "backtalk/respect" nonsense, and requires nothing more than an emotional pull of the trigger.) 

2)  Fear.  Wilson believes he's 150 feet from being obliterated by Benjamin Grimm in flip flops.  


Of these, most people seem to accept fear as valid - even justified.  That's not very encouraging if you, or anyone you care about, fits "the description."  


6'4" is not "giant."  Randy Quaid is 6'4".  Somehow, they managed to take him in alive. 

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It's likely that personal opinions on this case will depend on what we see as a greater danger, and a more plausible threat:

Being randomly killed by a big scary "thug", or being gunned down on the street by an armed coward who thinks you're a thug.  



This isn't in dispute:  a child critically wounded and in dire need of medical attention, unarmed, 150 feet away was shot to death by someone bound by duty and oath to protect and serve.  

That result is not acceptable in a civilized society.  All the other stuff is extraneous.  Police took greater care bringing the Boston Marathon bomber in alive - and he was armed. 


The very concept of lethal "self defense" is deeply problematic.  As an agent of the law, you should work to ensure due process and to protect the public.  Spraying bullets in the middle of a public street over irrational fear does not serve the public good.  This isn't Judge Dredd.  

We live in a country that supposedly prides itself in its innovation and its pioneering spirit.  How is it that we're landing probes on comets, but not making it our priority, as a society, to develop nonlethal means of self-defense, and making this standard issue for police officers?  How many lives would be saved, both in arrest scenarios and among all those who currently keep guns at home for "self defense?"  Instead, we're arming them with surplus military hardware and a false sense of unimpeachable righteousness.  

Flawed, prejudiced, and impulsive human beings should not have instantaneous, unilateral power of life and death over our children and fellow citizens.  

A civilized society does not do this.  
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and they don't go out looting burning victimizing their neighbors and hoods.

Just because you view things one way others don't have to agree.

MLK and Malcom X all believe and wanted the samething .. They went about it different ways ... That's our society ...
 
The fact that dude said he would do it again, showed no remorse after, and didn't offer any words to the family?

Very hard to keep faith in the legal system and people in power, they aren't protecting my people.
 
heLiumcLinton said:
The fact that dude said he would do it again, showed no remorse after, and didn't offer any words to the family?

Very hard to keep faith in the legal system and people in power, they aren't protecting my people.
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maybe the way he is thinking that is coming across is that he was in such grave danger that he had no choice but to put him down. But yeah its not translating.
 
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