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Actually Wilson never said multiple punches were landed. He said Brown landed one punch and was fearful that a second could knock him out.
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Actually Wilson never said multiple punches were landed. He said Brown landed one punch and was fearful that a second could knock him out.
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That big dude in the picture who robbed that grocery store or whatever it was, is that confirmed as being Mike Brown?
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Your MLK quote isn't completely relevant. One: protestors weren't attacking the cops or killing anyone. That's definitely what he could have meant by violence in that quote. Two: While he didn't condone looting and rioting, he absolutely understood the rage and feelings behind it. Many quotes support that.
What you're saying isn't wrong but remember who escalated the situation to get to this point. Remember how a cop that killed an unarmed black KID got 3 months paid vacation and over $400,000 raised in donations with racist comments attached. Remember how cops came out in riot gear, pointing guns, brandishing weapons, teargassing protesters WHILE IT WAS COMPLETELY PEACEFUL. Remember how it started. With a small percentage of Anarchists causing some trouble - while EVERYONE was teargassed. Remember how the Governor issued a statement and implemented a curfew without a word about how media was arrested without cause, protesters were arrested while lawfully assembling. Remember how the Governor's statement sounded like an Assistant Principle scolding children and how he spoke to the PEACEFUL protesters in Ferguson. Remember how leading up to all of this, they declare a State of Emergency, they delay the verdict, they commit thousands of officers, the National Guard and a ridiculous amount of hours training. Remember how bias McColluch was to start and how he has never indicted a cop in his life. Remember how he announced the verdict. His condescending tone and lack of respect for everyone involved should not be forgotten. This was a guy blasting Twitter during his announcement "blaming" them for this situation.
If you go through every step and try to handle the situation worse, you probably couldn't if you tried.
So it's cool for you to go hard on the looters - but don't forget what happened before this. They did A LOT to escalate this situation and they are very much at fault for it getting to this point. You come in with riot gear, make it us vs. them, treat the people like animals - some people are going to respond this way. I don't justify it at all but people in positions of power NEED to make better decisions than this. It's almost like they wanted this type of chaos to happen.
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I feel bad for the store owners 
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Who said other countries are perfect. Hell, we're the only country fronting like we're perfect.
Take the race out of this and this whole scenario
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I don't ban people for disagreeing with me. NikeTalk's forum policies exist to promote respectful discourse.
Personally, I try to look at the rhetorical function of an argument. It helps us avoid getting lost in the weeds.
If we're talking about the bottom line RESULT - an unarmed child shot to death from nearly 150 feet away - what is the rhetorical purpose of diverting that conversation to "he smoked weed" or "he took a threatening selfie" or "he listens to gangsta rap" or "they're rioting right now! The horror!" "How many people died in Chicago this week?" You KNOW what that's about.
I know that a lot of people struggle with distances... we know how far 15 feet is, because that's the free throw line, but multiplying that by ten seems, to some, like a wild abstraction.
150 feet is 50 yards.
Whatever happened at close range, Mike Brown was bleeding almost 50 yards away from Darren Wilson when he fired the fatal shots.
People talking about "he's the size of a linebacker." So Payton Manning needs a grenade launcher now? You have an SUV. You have a baton. You have the ability to call for backup. A critically wounded Mike Brown limping to a hospital is less of a threat to public safety than firing at him in the middle of a public street. At least one of the bullets Wilson let off struck an apartment building - near a window.
Why? "Bang bang shoot the bad guy, collateral damage be damned" is standard protocol if you're Martin Riggs. Here in the real world, public safety ought to be prized above getting your collar (or your revenge.)
Shooting this child to death was not a reasonable action. That some within the law enforcement community believe otherwise is, frankly, frightening.
We KNOW what the deflection is about. Let's not pretend otherwise.
The same basic thing happens in rape cases.
That's certainly a distressing list. No reasonable person would condone that, though I wish those complaining about the destruction of private property were as concerned about the loss of human life.
For comparison, the following is a list of businesses that were not damaged last night:
EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
Sorry, I didn't have space to list them all individually.
How many people were filmed protesting last night? And how many arrests were made nationwide? Okay then.
Dr. King did not believe that riots would result in any substantive improvements. No one has claimed otherwise. That said, he understood them - and, more importantly, he understood the rhetorical function of riots as a distraction or excuse:
‘‘Everyone is worrying about the long hot summer with its threat of riots. We had a long cold winter when little was done about the conditions that create riots."
1. Who's talking about "all cops?" Right now, it seems most people are talking about ONE officer - but, in the process, you also have to look at the police department hell bent on defending him. Every single officer/employee has not been personally implicated, but the department, as a whole, has taken some incredibly questionable actions - many of which have been detailed throughout this thread.
2. In what galaxy are we comparing "police oppression" to racism? (Or even using the phrase "police oppression" to reference the oppression OF THE POLICE?!) It's nonsensical.
So, police officers can practice racial profiling - overtly - but if we criticize police departments in any general sense for doing so, we're profiling their profiling?
The whole conservative "oppression judo" tactic is utterly baffling and impossibly tone deaf. "People who accuse others of racism? They're the REAL racists. And women? They're the REAL sexists. All those same sex couples who want to get married? They're the REAL homophobes."
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You know he's just saying that so "people" like you can think that he had probable cause to assume that he had a weapon, right?
Do you really believe this?
Why would someone reach into their waistband if they didn't have a weapon? In the middle of a "fight"? Was he going to take his phone out? Or wallet? What reason would he have to reach into his waist band?
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One doesn't beget the other but it is funny when you try and be the shining example of justice for the world when your own citizens don't feel safe in the country they were born in. Or not treated as equals.
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Come on dude... Wilson said he landed TWO punches and was fearful that a THIRD one could knock him out against Brown who was like "Hulk Hogan".
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I think meth is Neil degrass Tyson 
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Yes of course it was. But the conspiracy theorists will say it wasn't him
Where was it confirmed at?
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It's him. Just do some googling.
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For Wilson to be hit in the right cheek, Brown had to throw a left handed punch at him with Wilson turned fully toward the door. Why wasn't there any direct contact (lips, jaw, nose)? Why was his left cheek left alone?
I've had my nose broken, I sure as hell didn't think the next punch would kill me. This story and excuse is shady.
I've had my nose broken, I sure as hell didn't think the next punch would kill me. This story and excuse is shady.
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That isnt what I asked you. You said "of course its him" so how do you know that?
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Sorry for this crappy pics
As I was coming down Lucas and hunt I saw two buses , a military truck sheriff and two blacked out chargers pull into a shopping plaza
Also at the light about four squad cars came speeding down the road ,something probably already happened
Prepping for tonight I bet
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As I was coming down Lucas and hunt I saw two buses , a military truck sheriff and two blacked out chargers pull into a shopping plaza
Also at the light about four squad cars came speeding down the road ,something probably already happened
Prepping for tonight I bet
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Not only was he the Hulk he also had super stretch arms like Mr. Fantastic!
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Because as soon as the video came out this summer everyone in the media said it was confirmed to be him. He stole the cigars that were found at the scene. He was wearing the same clothes as the guy in the vid. I can't satisy every single conspiracy theorist like yourself.
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Ok I misquoted him. Excuse me sir.
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Soooo... you cant confirm it? Okay then
you could have just said I cant confirm it and had been done with this 3 responses ago.
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Was Brown a lefty or a righty? How many people get into a fight and only use 1 hand? Now only way I see this kid only using his left hand to punch Wilson is if his right hand is grabbing Wilson's hair or ear to keep his head in place.In which case, there should be distress marks on that left side of Wilson's face or scalp. Bizarre story.
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Oh so the media told you? Did you also hear that the store owner never called the cops, that was a report at one time? Or that some ppl said Mike was surrendering and that Wilson was the aggressor? Or do those not fit your narrative?
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Hahaha you guys are too much. Can't beliee you don't think that's him robbing that store. 
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The best thing, in my opinion, to do is to protest on the streets leading into n out of major shipping ports n commercial warehouses. Even delaying a shipment for a couple days, would cost companies millions. It's safe n nonviolent, all while sending a powerful message.
