Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

 
 
Lawyer here. I think the chances of DW getting convicted in court were slim due to a number of things, including some well-planned tactics by the Ferguson police department. However, there was MORE than enough to warrant a trial, had the prosecutor done his job.

I've seen quite a few of you in here going over all the details and debating guilt and innocence. This isn't about whether or not DW is guilty or innocent. It's about not having the chance to find out.
Let me ask you this, assuming DW was indicted and ultimate acquitted after trial, do you think the public response would have been the same or different?
People would be mad but I don't think you have this wide-scale outrage. There's evidence that favors both MB and DW. The majority of the outrage comes from a storyline that does not comport with common sense, and a lack of an opportunity to see justice unfold court.

Honestly, I think the majority of anger comes from everything that took place once MB fled. Everything from that moment on makes little sense.
 
It boggles my mind that anyone would allow any family member or friend to possess anything that looks like a gun. I'm not even going to allow my kids to have NERF guns. Not worth it
 
It boggles my mind that anyone would allow any family member or friend to possess anything that looks like a gun. I'm not even going to allow my kids to have NERF guns. Not worth it

my dad never let us have guns period...water guns bb guns..nerf guns he wasnt feeling it..



thats a very sad situation :smh:
 
How can he show them that the weapon is a toy without taking it out?

Or show them whatever he has?
Does that look like a toy gun to you?  The police didn't just happen to stumble upon the kid, they were responding to several calls about a kid waving a gun around.
 
 
How can he show them that the weapon is a toy without taking it out?

Or show them whatever he has?
Does that look like a toy gun to you?  The police didn't just happen to stumble upon the kid, they were responding to several calls about a kid waving a gun around.
From the video it doesn't look like anyone was in immediate danger of being fired on. Their first reaction was to shoot. That's the problem.
 
Does that look like a toy gun to you?  The police didn't just happen to stumble upon the kid, they were responding to several calls about a kid waving a gun around.

The calls explicitly said it was probably a toy gun.

Also, it's an open carry state. They shouldn't FREAK out like that.
 
 
Does that look like a toy gun to you?  The police didn't just happen to stumble upon the kid, they were responding to several calls about a kid waving a gun around.
People never try see the bigger picture.  You are correct and that makes sense.  Given the amount of 'shooting' that has occurred, what are people supposed to do?  Give them a benefit of a doubt?  It's tragic, but why are you waving around an airsoft to begin with?  Let alone one w/o the orange cap.

Cops are human beings.  It's sad to say, that accidents do happen and sometimes they end tragically.
 
Crazy man. I grew up playing at the same rec center (Cuddell) Tamir Rice was shot and killed at. Spent countless summers and winters there. Even kicked it at the very same spot he got shot it, waiting for my mom to come pick me up after our rec-league games.

Hope that place isn't affected severly by the shooting. That place kept kids off the streets when we were growing up..

RIP to Tamir Rice.
 
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The calls explicitly said it was probably a toy gun.

Also, it's an open carry state. They shouldn't FREAK out like that.
A 911 dispatcher never told police officers responding to a Saturday call about an armed person in a Cleveland park that the man who called in the threat believed the pistol was fake.

Moments later, 12-year-old Tamir Rice was shot by rookie police Officer Thomas Loehmann.
 
Completely forgot about that. Makes everything that much more absurd..

What is this nonsense? Any police officer would have done the same thing. LITERALLY, THE ONE AND ONLY THING YOU CANNOT DO is reach for your gun when you're told to put your hands up.
 
People never try see the bigger picture.  You are correct and that makes sense.  Given the amount of 'shooting' that has occurred, what are people supposed to do?  Give them a benefit of a doubt?  It's tragic, but why are you waving around an airsoft to begin with?  Let alone one w/o the orange cap.

Cops are human beings.  It's sad to say, that accidents do happen and sometimes they end tragically.

The bigger picture is that there were MANY different ways to safely handle the situation. 911 callers said they thought it was a toy gun. They could've kept their distance and asked him what he was doing.

There's a video of a white dude with a mental illness waving a rifle around. Cops kept their distance and there was a stand off for like 10+ minutes before anything happened. They eventually fired ONE shot at his belly and brought him to a hospital.

The bigger picture is that while these guys are human, if you bum rush someone with intent to shoot if they even reach for their waist - you're going to kill TONS of people. The bigger picture is that this stuff happens only to black people.
 
Cops are human but when when you sign up to serve and protect you have to put your life on the line in the face of danger. This shoot first and deal with the consequences later mentality is not right.
 
A 911 dispatcher never told police officers responding to a Saturday call about an armed person in a Cleveland park that the man who called in the threat believed the pistol was fake.





Moments later, 12-year-old Tamir Rice was shot by rookie police Officer Thomas Loehmann.

Yes, and?

I don't give a damn about the dispatcher. The people calling the dispatchers said the gun was probably fake - which is what I said. They took more time to investigate than this cop did. Unarmed civilians. Are cops supposed to go into situations like a SWAT team and ask no questions?
 
What is this nonsense? Any police officer would have done the same thing. LITERALLY, THE ONE AND ONLY THING YOU CANNOT DO is reach for your gun when you're told to put your hands up.

Do you know what open carry means?

For example, I live in Maryland, the picture shown below would NEVER happen in my state. And if somebody was in public holding a gun and got blown away it would damn well be justified.

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However, Ohio is an open carry state, which means seeing somebody with a gun in public shouldn't be odd or result in immediately shooting them.
 
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Do you know what open carry means?

For example, I live in Maryland, the picture shown below would NEVER happen in my state. And if somebody was in public with a gun and got blown away it would damn well be justified.

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However, Ohio is an open carry state which means seeing somebody with a gun in public shouldn't be odd or result in immediately shooting them.

There is a distinction between open carry and pointing your weapon at an officer or reaching for your weapon when you otherwise did not have your weapon exposed.
 
I wish NFL players boycotted the games tomorrow and refused to play.  That would send a huge statement to the dominant society.
 

1. Broad generalization of what I envision when I read your posts.

2. Again, broad generalization what I envision when I read your posts.

3. You're a Don Lemon NTer cause you rather highlight the negative protesters vs the positive, peaceful protestors.

Good enough for you?

So, you're all about having your questions answered but too scared to say what you do for living.

You can come to my job site and watch me educate if you like. You can come to the house and have a drink and discuss too. I'm in Los Angeles, West Adams area.
Broad generalizations, I'm glad you admit to not actually addressing my specific points.

I do web design and IT for a living. Not sure how that's relevant.

I highlight the need for more political and economic organization behind the movement. I don't know who's posts you have been reading. Maybe you are just confusing me with the other people you are angry at.

I'll hit you with a Pm with my contact info. I'd like to link up and see what you are involved with in the local community.
 
I wish NFL players boycotted the games tomorrow and refused to play.  That would send a huge statement to the dominant society.

When you got idiots like this in the league, don't bet on it.

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