Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

Cobra Kai said:
Killer Mike on CNN.

Please let lil waynes opinion only matter on ESPN First Take.
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Would love to hear what Killer Mike has to say, I'll check youtube later.


lamekilla said:
Killer Mike on CNN right now speaking the truth. I have met him a couple of times and had no idea he was the son of a police officer
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He alwayes does, sometimes it goes over peoples head.


Elpablo21 said:
:smh:  unconscious though

Wilson has some serious healing powers
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You didn't know he had that adamantium in him?

letsgetit22 said:
Yep, the ME said that it was possible that MB was shot in the arm from behind. That's why I don't know why people were making a big deal about witnesses saying he was shot in the back. (Well, I do know why)

Larry Elder been a ***** from way back. Can't believe that clown from Compton. We don't claim him. Haha!
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If I recall they didn't say he was shot in the back, but that it looked like he got shot ibecause his body jerked when the officer was shooting at him while he was running away. Don't forget though, they want to use any opportunity to discredit the eye witnesses so they can run with a bs story from Josie who was probably having brunch when all this went down.


D Nice said:
I still can't believe Larry Elder blamed Black fatherhood for what happened to Mike Brown. Not to mention he brought up Chicago as well? Are these people reading from the same deflection handbook? It's the same record being played over and over again.
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How does that play into all of this? If he had a daddy he would be walking on the sidewalk and not in the street? If he had a daddy he would have gotten on his knees with his hands behind his head the moment the cop pulled up on them?
 
mgrand15 said:
Meaningful discussion?

We tell you why you're wrong and why it's not really worthy of actual debate. You nor the other ignorant ones are willing to open your mind. What's the point of debating with clowns like that?

If you REALLY care, do some extensive research on racism, police/government vs. black people and how alive racism is today. The Internet is full of resources. If you choose to ignore what we say and choose not to do research, you're not worthy of discussing the subject.
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Since YOU know all the relevant facts already, why should the authorities including the Dept of Justice and FBI bother even conducting their own investigations?  Why even convene a grand jury to review and hear ALL the evidence instead of the bits and pieces we get through the media or hearsay statements?  The purpose of having a meaningful discussion is to acknowledge that you DON"T know all the facts and that you're open minded enough to hear someone else's opinions and reserve judgment until ALL the facts are heard.  I haven't ONCE in this thread defended the actions of Darren Wilson or suggested that Michael Brown's death was justified.  On the contrary, unlike you and some of the others here who have already drawn your own conclusions and refuse to consider opposing viewpoints, I can readily admit that I don't know all the facts yet.
 
lamekilla said:
If a black person makes a negative generalization about a cop, they stay away from them, they don't cooperate

If a cop makes a negative generalization about a black person...harassment, jail time, fines, and or death.

Who does the generalization hurt more, a cop or a black citizen? Think about it and come back to this thread when you have the answer. I won't block you, I'm willing to listen....
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So if a black person has a pre-conceived notion that all cops are racist and bad (whether its' due to their own past experiences), and as a result, they don't cooperate with police like you said, what do you think happens when that person encounters a racist or bad cop who has his own pre-conceived notions about black people based on his own past experiences?  You get a potentially volatile situation.

That's not to place any blame on black people for thinking or feeling that way.  My point is that generalizations or stereotypes in general are a bad thing, regardless of the type of group you're trying to apply it to because ti only contributes to the problem.
 
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lamekilla said:
If a black person makes a negative generalization about a cop, they stay away from them, they don't cooperate

If a cop makes a negative generalization about a black person...harassment, jail time, fines, and or death.

Who does the generalization hurt more, a cop or a black citizen? Think about it and come back to this thread when you have the answer. I won't block you, I'm willing to listen....
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So if a black person has a pre-conceived notion that all cops are racist and bad (whether its' due to their own past experiences), and as a result, they don't cooperate with police like you said, what do you think happens when that person encounters a racist or bad cop who has his own pre-conceived notions about black people based on his own past experiences?  You get a potentially volatile situation.

That's not to place any blame on black people for thinking or feeling that way.  My point is that generalizations or stereotypes in general are a bad thing, regardless of the type of group you're trying to apply it to because ti only contributes to the problem.
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In an ideal world you pose a very valid point.

But like we keep saying in this thread, this is far from an ideal world.

We can discuss till were blue in the face about HOW things should be, and most of us do indeed understand roughly how a fair world would work.. But that's a fantasy, not reality. Has no place in discussion.
 
IlluminatiNYC said:
So if a black person has a pre-conceived notion that all cops are racist and bad (whether its' due to their own past experiences), and as a result, they don't cooperate with police like you said, what do you think happens when that person encounters a racist or bad cop who has his own pre-conceived notions about black people based on his own past experiences?  You get a potentially volatile situation.

That's not to place any blame on black people for thinking or feeling that way.  My point is that generalizations or stereotypes in general are a bad thing, regardless of the type of group you're trying to apply it to because ti only contributes to the problem.
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So who are you asking to turn the other cheek first? The race of people who were forced into this country as laborers and have been persecuted and belittled and threatened and murdered throughout their existence here

Or

The people who took an oath to protect and serve everyone?
 
Few things :

We should not fight against each other in here. Discussion and debate? Appropriate. Personal attacks should be left alone

J cole was the first celeb to go down there I believe, AND he did it without telling anyone for attention. AND he was talking to Johnson about helping the people. Respect him for caring and not being there for a photo op


Them raiding a church is unforgivable. At what point is "just doing my job" not a valid excuse to take part in this anymore?

I don't believe a protestor threw that glass water bottle. Doesn't even make sense. Who drinks glass water bottles outside? You expect these angry people to be outside drinking Perrier sparkling water from a glass mid protest at MIDNIGHT? right... And that glass colt 45 was there's too. Sure.
 
Jay Patt said:
 
In an ideal world you pose a very valid point.

But like we keep saying in this thread, this is far from an ideal world.

We can discuss till were blue in the face about HOW things should be, and most of us do indeed understand roughly how a fair world would work.. But that's a fantasy, not reality. Has no place in discussion.
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So let me ask you this...what is the ideal outcome of this whole Ferguson situation?  Let's say Darren Wilson gets indicted after a grand jury hearing.  Will all the protestors and rioters go home?  Or will they continue throughout the course of the trial which could take months?  In that regard, what if Darren Wilson is convicted?  Or worse yet, what if he's acquitted?

To avoid future confrontations between black people and the police, that may result in another shooting, wouldn't it be prudent for BOTH sides to evaluate what could be done to avoid such confrontations?  Sure, we can say the police should act first by not singling out black people all the time, but how do you do that in a town that's predominantly black?  Anytime a white police officer stops a black person for anything, there's automatically going  to be racial implications, especially in light of  this whole Michael Brown situation.  Perhaps having more black police officers may alleviate the situation but you can't force people to become cops.

In the meantime, while I'm neither black nor white, if I knew that there was a possibility that the police may have negative stereotypes about the race of my children, I wouldn't teach them to defy authority, not cooperate or  resist arrest should they encounter a racist or bad cop.  I'd tell them to just cooperate and give the cop absolutely NO reason to place any blame on them.   I'd rather bail my child out of jail and then sue the ***** off the cops and the municipality than plan the funeral for my own child.  No parent should ever outlive their child.
 
Adidas Freak said:
If this dude doesn't get indicted these riots will look like a walk in the park compared to what will happen.
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There is no happy ending to this situation im afraid.
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An indictment isn't enough. He should be convicted. And I thought the same thing with the Martin case. I know this is different, but I can see this guy walking too. Don't see anything like the L.A. riots happening if he does.

On another note, too many people here are letting their need to appear objective cause them to post ignorant things. I'll let you all have this for a few days. 
 
IlluminatiNYC said:
 
Jay Patt said:
 
In an ideal world you pose a very valid point.

But like we keep saying in this thread, this is far from an ideal world.

We can discuss till were blue in the face about HOW things should be, and most of us do indeed understand roughly how a fair world would work.. But that's a fantasy, not reality. Has no place in discussion.
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So let me ask you this...what is the ideal outcome of this whole Ferguson situation?   Let's say Darren Wilson gets indicted after a grand jury hearing.  Will all the protestors and rioters go home?  Or will they continue throughout the course of the trial which could take months?  In that regard, what if Darren Wilson is convicted?  Or worse yet, what if he's acquitted?

To avoid future confrontations between black people and the police, that may result in another shooting, wouldn't it be prudent for BOTH sides to evaluate what could be done to avoid such confrontations?   Sure, we can say the police should act first by not singling out black people all the time, but how do you do that in a town that's predominantly black?  Anytime a white police officer stops a black person for anything, there's automatically going  to be racial implications, especially in light of  this whole Michael Brown situation.  Perhaps having more black police officers may alleviate the situation but you can't force people to become cops.

In the meantime, while I'm neither black nor white, if I knew that there was a possibility that the police may have negative stereotypes about the race of my children, I wouldn't teach them to defy authority, not cooperate or  resist arrest should they encounter a racist or bad cop.  I'd tell them to just cooperate and give the cop absolutely NO reason to place any blame on them.   I'd rather bail my child out of jail and then sue the ***** off the cops and the municipality than plan the funeral for my own child.  No parent should ever outlive their child.
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Im not capable of predicting the future, and it can go a number of ways. 

The system itself is broken.

This is not what black people teach their kids at all. Those with sense teach them to submit to everything. 

Im going back to the original discussion now. 
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Cobra Kai said:
Protest taking place in South Dallas.
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where at!!

I'm there after work bro!



And how did Larry Elder blame this on black fathers??

He gotta be t
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D Nice said:
 
I still can't believe Larry Elder blamed Black fatherhood for what happened to Mike Brown. Not to mention he brought up Chicago crime as well? Are these people reading from the same deflection handbook? It's the same record being played over and over again.
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Larry Elder has been a permanent resident and member on the **** train, so no one should listen to him or take him seriously.  Gotta call clowns like him and others out every chance we can. 
 
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IlluminatiNYC said:
 
So let me ask you this...what is the ideal outcome of this whole Ferguson situation?  Let's say Darren Wilson gets indicted after a grand jury hearing.  Will all the protestors and rioters go home?  Or will they continue throughout the course of the trial which could take months?  In that regard, what if Darren Wilson is convicted?  Or worse yet, what if he's acquitted?

To avoid future confrontations between black people and the police, that may result in another shooting, wouldn't it be prudent for BOTH sides to evaluate what could be done to avoid such confrontations?  Sure, we can say the police should act first by not singling out black people all the time, but how do you do that in a town that's predominantly black?  Anytime a white police officer stops a black person for anything, there's automatically going  to be racial implications, especially in light of  this whole Michael Brown situation.  Perhaps having more black police officers may alleviate the situation but you can't force people to become cops.

In the meantime, while I'm neither black nor white, if I knew that there was a possibility that the police may have negative stereotypes about the race of my children, I wouldn't teach them to defy authority, not cooperate or  resist arrest should they encounter a racist or bad cop.  I'd tell them to just cooperate and give the cop absolutely NO reason to place any blame on them.   I'd rather bail my child out of jail and then sue the ***** off the cops and the municipality than plan the funeral for my own child.  No parent should ever outlive their child.
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Black people have cooperated time after time with police and the end result is still the same.

Not to mention, there have been plenty of initiatives that have tried to address the way law enforcement police predominately black neighborhoods.

Truth is, alot of us get the talk from either our parents or family members on how to conduct ourselves with law enforcement. And guess what? It doesn't matter what

you wear or how pleasant we try to sound, they will still discriminate against black people ( Iknow this from personal experience). This lowkey just sounds like victim blaming to me.
 
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Same **** over and over. I'm not _ or _therefore I'm unbiased and Blacks shouldn't give cops a reason to harass or murder them in cold blood. Get the **** outta here. That ridiculous proposal alone let's me know from the jump that you don't know **** and will never be qualified to speak on the matter. When you have to walk out of the door each day & be wary that a simple encounter with so called "law enforcement" could turn fatal without any wrongdoing on your part, then you have warrant to speak & question our anger & protest. Until then **** your ***** *** up.
 
Just looked up the protest in Dallas.


It was an openncarry walk...

On mlk...

I'm gonna swing by there in 20 min and see if there's anything still popping but they say it ended about an hour ago...
 
I know I've been one of the more hostile guys in here but let's calm down a little fellas. Don't get people of other colors to think that we're always angry :rolleyes and unable of intelligent conversation. A lot of these guys are coming in here just to sound like they're smarter than the situation. I encourage you not to block them but to constantly offer rebuttals to their outrageous claims and educate their ***** on what's really going on
 
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lamekilla said:
I know I've been one of the more hostile guys in here but let's calm down a little fellas. Don't get people of other colors to think that we're always angry
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and unable of intelligent conversation. A lot of these guys are coming in here just to sound like they're smarter than the situation. I encourage you not to block them but to constantly offer rebuttals to their outrageous claims and educate their ***** on what's really going on
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That gets old quickly. Eventually you hit that point where you just offer a rebuttal so they stop posting. 

Most of these people could answer their own questions by just picking up a book. Can't keep doing all the work for them. 

A lot of dudes banned from the thread just looking for a hero. 
 
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