Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

The 10 Kinds of trolls you  encounter when talking about Mike Brown.


BY OLIVIA A. COLE



If you’re paying attention to the events unfolding in Ferguson—and by God, you better be—then you probably already know there is a group of people in this country of ours who are determined to change the focus of the conversation about the murder of Mike Brown and the subsequent protests, attempting to shift the lens away from the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens and the shooting of a black teenager.



If you’re reading this, you probably already know the folks I’m talking about. But here they are.


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1) The Full-Blown Racist Troll



Block on sight. Some of them are friends of your Facebook friends—block them. Some of them areyour Facebook friends. Many of them are accounts like this one: anonymous and relying on blatantly racistlanguage, such as blackface imagery, “monkey” references, use of the “N-word,” etc. These have exploded over the last week. We’re talking hundreds. I’ve been using Twitter avidly for years, and I can’t recall ever seeing quite this much racist bile taking over an event-related hashtag (#Ferguson) as I have this week.



Block them and report them for spam immediately.
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2) The “Wait for Evidence” Troll



This troll may or may not be anonymous and pretends to be focused on respecting and upholding the law. “We don’t know what happened yet,” they say. “Wait for evidence before you lambast an officer of the law.” They pretend that things like racismpolice brutality, and police corruption don’t exist and insist that if concrete evidence is released, they will be swayed to feel “sympathy” for Mike Brown.



But they won’t. When evidence arises, they find objection to its relevance or veracity. They then transform into The “Mike Brown Shouldn’t Have [insert human action here]” Troll, our next entry.


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3) The “Mike Brown Shouldn’t Have [Insert Human Action Here]” Troll



This troll (and the others as well) will go great lengths to justify the taking of black life, using justifications like “he shouldn’t have run,” “he shouldn’t have been sagging,” and “he shouldn’t have been walking down the middle of the street,” and “he shouldn’t have stolen something.”



These trolls come in all races and will insist that when a police officer (or a homeowner, or a security guard) assaults a person of color, that person must have done something to deserve it. The fact that Mike Brown was shot at least six times doesn’t register as overkill, even when two of those shots were in the head.



They will also extend effort to paint Ferguson as a ghetto, where this kind of thing happens all the time. Nope. Ferguson, Missouri had zero murders until Officer Darren Wilson killed Mike Brown.




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4) The “Police Are the Good Guys” Troll



These folks have a blissfully naïve version of police in their heads, theone fed to them since they were children that says police are the good guys and that no matter what they do, they must have had a reason. These people have no concept (or pretend to have no concept) of thedepth of white supremacy and the way it is ingrained in every facet of our culture—even our police. Because they believe the police are always right—and usually because they also believe that groups of black people are inherently violent—they have no qualms about police dressed in military gear, sitting on tanks and tear-gassing American citizens.



You may also hear these trolls say, “What about due process?” Well, we would proceed with due process. If they would actually arrest Darren Wilson. Which they haven’t.


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5) The “Violence Just Begets More Violence” Troll



These people are the riot-shamers. They roll out the word “looters!” at every chance and are not interested in the fact that only a small number of people at the protests have actively looted or that Ferguson protestors actually locked arms to prevent said looting. These trolls hide behind anonymous accounts, they masquerade as sane co-workers, and they work for major media outlets. They focus on the “unrest” in Ferguson and talk about it out of context in an attempt to divert attention away from the killing of an unarmed black teenager and/or  disguise their lack of critical thought.



As Mia McKenzie of Black Girl Dangerous said so well in this post:


A community pushing back against a murderous police force that is terrorizing them is not a ‘riot.’ It’s an uprising. It’s a rebellion. It’s a community saying We can’t take this anymore. We won’t take it. It’s people who have been dehumanized to the point of rightful rage. And it happens all over the world. Uprisings and rebellions are necessary and inevitable, locally and globally. This is not to say that actual riots don’t happen. White folks riot at sporting events, for example. Riots happen. But people rising up in righteous anger and rage in the face of oppression should not be dismissed as simply a ‘riot.’

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6) The Concern Troll



These are among the more passive-aggressive trolls you will encounter. They not only target victims like Mike Brown with statements like “I wish he hadn’t stolen those cigars: he might be alive.” They also target the community as well, saying things like “Should they really be out there protesting with little kids? I worry about that kind of parenting.”



Let me make one thing clear in case you weren’t sure: these people aren’t worried about the children of Ferguson. They’re not actually “concerned” at all,” despite their title. These people employ words like “worry” and “I wish” to communicate their disapproval of black people doing anything besides playing the Martin Baker role. If they were actually concerned, they would see the images of police with hidden badge numbers, tear-gassing eight-year old girls, and be concerned about the escalation of violence police in Ferguson are responsible for.


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7) The “But What About Black on Black Crime!” Troll



Yes, 85 percent of violent crime against black people is perpetuated by other black people. But guess what? The exact same is true for violent crime committed against white people: the vast majority of those crimes are committed by other white people.



People who use the term “black on black crime” either:



1) work for Fox News



2) are seeking to portray black people as violent and out of control



OR



3) seek to portray black people as only caring about black lives when there is a way to blame white people.



Let’s run that back:



1) If they work for Fox News, you already know what the deal is.



2) If we’re going to make sweeping statements about people being violent and out of control, perhaps we should focus on young white males.



AND



3) Anyone who would fit with number three is not interested in facts, otherwise they would be aware of the vast number of organizations and movements to end gun violence in black neighborhoods—spearheaded by black people.



The real motivation behind this troll (and all of them really) is to distract from the matter at hand.


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8) The “Don’t Make This A Racial Issue!” Troll



These are the pearl-clutchers: “This could have happened to anyone! Let’s not make this a racial issue and instead focus on getting this cop off the street!”



Yes, we should focus on getting this cop off the street, but we must also focus on the conditions that made this murder possible, and that is one of racismwhite supremacy, and police violence that has been being built and rebuilt since the birth of this country. No, this wouldn’t have just happened to anyone. A black male is killed by police every 28 hours in America. This is a racial issue.



These trolls will also accuse you of being racist for talking about racism and start quoting to you all the times black people perpetuated “reverse racism” against white people.



Suggested action? Block and keep it moving.


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9) The Misinformation Bots



These are particularly dangerous, and I have seen a lot of them in the past week. I won’t speculate on where they come from—although I have a fairly good idea—but their sole purpose is to spread misinformation about Mike Brown and Darren Wilson, targeting people tweeting under the #Ferguson and #MikeBrown hashtags and sending them to false articles on homemade websites about alternate eyewitnesses that saw Brown attack Wilson, etc.



Don’t engage with these people: they likely get paid for it. Report them as spam, and you guessed it: keep it moving.
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10) The “I Wish We Could All Just Get Along” Troll



These trolls might mean well. They might. But that doesn’t mean they’re not trolls. You post/tweet an article and they tweet back, “This is all really bad, but I wish this wasn’t happening. Can’t we all just get along?”



They’re trolling you. We all wish we could get along, but right now a boy is dead and is receiving no justice by the system that supposedly exists to protect him. Injecting Pollyanna-isms aren’t helping anyone. If you really want to help and the front lines aren’t for you, just donate to the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. And stay out of the way.


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This isn’t an exhaustive list. When a black person is killed in America, trolls come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify or distract from the taking of that life.



After finishing this post, I’m not even sure “troll” is the right word, but I’m not sure if I have a better one either. "Weights," perhaps. Cinder blocks shackled to the rising tide of Americans who want and believe in better and see the murder of another black kid in America and say “enough.” These people are not merely trolls. “Troll” implies something harmless, a faceless entity in the underbelly of the Internet. These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. 



Unfortunately, I don’t have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward.



All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they’re friends.
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This is great.

Any new developments? Interested in the Kweli segment as well.
 


If he was black he would've caught the whole magazine.


He has the complexion for the protection, you could see how hard it was for them to fire that one shot :smh:. They followed every protocol with this guy, nobody overstepped at all. This has been said many times, look at all the mass killings within the past two years. Those guys are in prison and suffered maybe on shot. All the headlines speak about how smart the person is, how quiet they are, or that they have a disorder. None of them are thugs, or animals. These people have more guns and ammo in their crib than most "thugs".
 
The 10 Kinds of trolls you  encounter when talking about Mike Brown.


BY OLIVIA A. COLE



If you’re paying attention to the events unfolding in Ferguson—and by God, you better be—then you probably already know there is a group of people in this country of ours who are determined to change the focus of the conversation about the murder of Mike Brown and the subsequent protests, attempting to shift the lens away from the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens and the shooting of a black teenager.



If you’re reading this, you probably already know the folks I’m talking about. But here they are.


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1) The Full-Blown Racist Troll



Block on sight. Some of them are friends of your Facebook friends—block them. Some of them areyour Facebook friends. Many of them are accounts like this one: anonymous and relying on blatantly racistlanguage, such as blackface imagery, “monkey” references, use of the “N-word,” etc. These have exploded over the last week. We’re talking hundreds. I’ve been using Twitter avidly for years, and I can’t recall ever seeing quite this much racist bile taking over an event-related hashtag (#Ferguson) as I have this week.



Block them and report them for spam immediately.
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2) The “Wait for Evidence” Troll



This troll may or may not be anonymous and pretends to be focused on respecting and upholding the law. “We don’t know what happened yet,” they say. “Wait for evidence before you lambast an officer of the law.” They pretend that things like racismpolice brutality, and police corruption don’t exist and insist that if concrete evidence is released, they will be swayed to feel “sympathy” for Mike Brown.



But they won’t. When evidence arises, they find objection to its relevance or veracity. They then transform into The “Mike Brown Shouldn’t Have [insert human action here]” Troll, our next entry.


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3) The “Mike Brown Shouldn’t Have [Insert Human Action Here]” Troll



This troll (and the others as well) will go great lengths to justify the taking of black life, using justifications like “he shouldn’t have run,” “he shouldn’t have been sagging,” and “he shouldn’t have been walking down the middle of the street,” and “he shouldn’t have stolen something.”



These trolls come in all races and will insist that when a police officer (or a homeowner, or a security guard) assaults a person of color, that person must have done something to deserve it. The fact that Mike Brown was shot at least six times doesn’t register as overkill, even when two of those shots were in the head.



They will also extend effort to paint Ferguson as a ghetto, where this kind of thing happens all the time. Nope. Ferguson, Missouri had zero murders until Officer Darren Wilson killed Mike Brown.




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4) The “Police Are the Good Guys” Troll



These folks have a blissfully naïve version of police in their heads, theone fed to them since they were children that says police are the good guys and that no matter what they do, they must have had a reason. These people have no concept (or pretend to have no concept) of thedepth of white supremacy and the way it is ingrained in every facet of our culture—even our police. Because they believe the police are always right—and usually because they also believe that groups of black people are inherently violent—they have no qualms about police dressed in military gear, sitting on tanks and tear-gassing American citizens.



You may also hear these trolls say, “What about due process?” Well, we would proceed with due process. If they would actually arrest Darren Wilson. Which they haven’t.


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5) The “Violence Just Begets More Violence” Troll



These people are the riot-shamers. They roll out the word “looters!” at every chance and are not interested in the fact that only a small number of people at the protests have actively looted or that Ferguson protestors actually locked arms to prevent said looting. These trolls hide behind anonymous accounts, they masquerade as sane co-workers, and they work for major media outlets. They focus on the “unrest” in Ferguson and talk about it out of context in an attempt to divert attention away from the killing of an unarmed black teenager and/or  disguise their lack of critical thought.



As Mia McKenzie of Black Girl Dangerous said so well in this post:


A community pushing back against a murderous police force that is terrorizing them is not a ‘riot.’ It’s an uprising. It’s a rebellion. It’s a community saying We can’t take this anymore. We won’t take it. It’s people who have been dehumanized to the point of rightful rage. And it happens all over the world. Uprisings and rebellions are necessary and inevitable, locally and globally. This is not to say that actual riots don’t happen. White folks riot at sporting events, for example. Riots happen. But people rising up in righteous anger and rage in the face of oppression should not be dismissed as simply a ‘riot.’

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6) The Concern Troll



These are among the more passive-aggressive trolls you will encounter. They not only target victims like Mike Brown with statements like “I wish he hadn’t stolen those cigars: he might be alive.” They also target the community as well, saying things like “Should they really be out there protesting with little kids? I worry about that kind of parenting.”



Let me make one thing clear in case you weren’t sure: these people aren’t worried about the children of Ferguson. They’re not actually “concerned” at all,” despite their title. These people employ words like “worry” and “I wish” to communicate their disapproval of black people doing anything besides playing the Martin Baker role. If they were actually concerned, they would see the images of police with hidden badge numbers, tear-gassing eight-year old girls, and be concerned about the escalation of violence police in Ferguson are responsible for.


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7) The “But What About Black on Black Crime!” Troll



Yes, 85 percent of violent crime against black people is perpetuated by other black people. But guess what? The exact same is true for violent crime committed against white people: the vast majority of those crimes are committed by other white people.



People who use the term “black on black crime” either:



1) work for Fox News



2) are seeking to portray black people as violent and out of control



OR



3) seek to portray black people as only caring about black lives when there is a way to blame white people.



Let’s run that back:



1) If they work for Fox News, you already know what the deal is.



2) If we’re going to make sweeping statements about people being violent and out of control, perhaps we should focus on young white males.



AND



3) Anyone who would fit with number three is not interested in facts, otherwise they would be aware of the vast number of organizations and movements to end gun violence in black neighborhoods—spearheaded by black people.



The real motivation behind this troll (and all of them really) is to distract from the matter at hand.


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8) The “Don’t Make This A Racial Issue!” Troll



These are the pearl-clutchers: “This could have happened to anyone! Let’s not make this a racial issue and instead focus on getting this cop off the street!”



Yes, we should focus on getting this cop off the street, but we must also focus on the conditions that made this murder possible, and that is one of racismwhite supremacy, and police violence that has been being built and rebuilt since the birth of this country. No, this wouldn’t have just happened to anyone. A black male is killed by police every 28 hours in America. This is a racial issue.



These trolls will also accuse you of being racist for talking about racism and start quoting to you all the times black people perpetuated “reverse racism” against white people.



Suggested action? Block and keep it moving.


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9) The Misinformation Bots



These are particularly dangerous, and I have seen a lot of them in the past week. I won’t speculate on where they come from—although I have a fairly good idea—but their sole purpose is to spread misinformation about Mike Brown and Darren Wilson, targeting people tweeting under the #Ferguson and #MikeBrown hashtags and sending them to false articles on homemade websites about alternate eyewitnesses that saw Brown attack Wilson, etc.



Don’t engage with these people: they likely get paid for it. Report them as spam, and you guessed it: keep it moving.
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10) The “I Wish We Could All Just Get Along” Troll



These trolls might mean well. They might. But that doesn’t mean they’re not trolls. You post/tweet an article and they tweet back, “This is all really bad, but I wish this wasn’t happening. Can’t we all just get along?”



They’re trolling you. We all wish we could get along, but right now a boy is dead and is receiving no justice by the system that supposedly exists to protect him. Injecting Pollyanna-isms aren’t helping anyone. If you really want to help and the front lines aren’t for you, just donate to the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. And stay out of the way.


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This isn’t an exhaustive list. When a black person is killed in America, trolls come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify or distract from the taking of that life.



After finishing this post, I’m not even sure “troll” is the right word, but I’m not sure if I have a better one either. "Weights," perhaps. Cinder blocks shackled to the rising tide of Americans who want and believe in better and see the murder of another black kid in America and say “enough.” These people are not merely trolls. “Troll” implies something harmless, a faceless entity in the underbelly of the Internet. These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. 



Unfortunately, I don’t have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward.



All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they’re friends.
http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/10-kinds-of-trolls-mike-brown/
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Literally seen all of those troll tactics executed in this thread and in past threads :smh:
 
The different witness statements that are pro-Brown aren't helping in terms of credibility. All have slightly different accounts of what happened.
 
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That skinny professor with the glasses challenged Don Lemon to a wrestling match.. was that shameless ayo or did I miss something?

did anyone else notice CNN changing cameras as soon as the Tank popped up? CNN thinks their slick by having the parked tank as a back drop... almost like the tanks are there but not being used which is a lie. 
 
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If he was black he would've caught the whole magazine.
So an ARMED Caucasian Male, walking TOWARDS cops with the weapon loaded and cocked, only gets a single bullet to the stomach....
Although in the interview after the policeman said that he "rushed" the cops. I wouldn't really say he rushed them but was walking towards them. Wasn't even in a fast pace, lol
 
Although I don't like Don Lemon, I respect that he allowed the whole interview to finish and not run to commercial like his producer's wanted him to. Kweli spitting that real though.

Lol @ MB witnesses accounts being slightly different so that makes the witness less credible. You literally can't name 2 vast differences in all the accounts given.
 
Although I don't like Don Lemon, I respect that he allowed the whole interview to finish and not run to commercial like his producer's wanted him to. Kweli spitting that real though.

Lol @ MB witnesses accounts being slightly different so that makes the witness less credible. You literally can't name 2 vast differences in all the accounts given.

Can say what you want. His friend's account would be dismissed as not credible because he has a biased interest. You probably ignore the fact he hemmed up the dude in the store too.
 
Can say what you want. His friend's account would be dismissed as not credible because he has a biased interest. You probably ignore the fact he hemmed up the dude in the store too.

Dorian didn't participate in the robbery. And after a 3 hour FBI interview yesterday they have decided to use him as a federal witness.
 
The different witness statements that are pro-Brown aren't helping in terms of credibility. All have slightly different accounts of what happened.

how so? I've only heard 4 witness statements his boy Dorian, Tiffany, Piaget, and Michael. The only difference if you would call it that is how much of the altercation was seen by each person. Michael said he didnt hear the first shot from the car, but he saw the boys running. The others said they heard that first shot form inside the car. He saw the boys run, and the cop get out the car and fire at Mike, he also said at that point he left his bedroom window and ran outside to film the rest of it.

By this point Mike had already turned around and what he saw was Mike stooping down with his arms crossed then the cop fired the last two shots. He missed when Mike turned around and supposedly put his hands up surrendering.

Either way there is no real conflict in the stories, nothing Mike did warranted what happened.
 
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The different witness statements that are pro-Brown aren't helping in terms of credibility. All have slightly different accounts of what happened.
Since all the witnesses that are "pro brown"' didn't link up to make one big story that has the same account like the pro darren wilson supporters did, they aren't credible? In a court of law every witness acount is most likely different. Hell the darren wilson story is so inaccurate, im glad there's different witness accounts on browns case. Rather than there being one story that everyone is going with which the media would be able to poke holes through. 
 
I've always liked Talib. :nthat:

:lol: My dude wasn't having NOTHING! :rofl:

Told that clown I'll walk off your show. :lol:
 
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Can say what you want. His friend's account would be dismissed as not credible because he has a biased interest. You probably ignore the fact he hemmed up the dude in the store too.

Oh, so his friend account is the only one you heard? Haha! figures. Also, the FBI thinks his friend is absolutely credible. But, you could at least do the very minimal amount of research. You don't have to be ignorant. Haha

Yes, I will ignore the fact that he hemmed a dude up. If you did some research, you would know why just about everyone is ignoring that fact. Well, except for "certain" people.
 
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