BREAKING: Actor-comedian Robin Williams Found Dead

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Mark Antony said:
I'm sitting, and how's that an attack? Relax, it's nowhere near that serious. I'm addressing this prevailing notion in the thread that what he did/suicide in general is selfish. Selfishness is a choice. You fellas have to learn to not take everything to heart.
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Suicide is a choice.

Sometimes the choices we make are for selfish reasons.

Gregory House said:
No one is attacking your opinion, he/she is just simply stating that calling people who commit suicide "selfish" is not the best choice of words
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I don't care, it's the truth how I see it, in my opinion what he did was selfish, that doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

TO ME to take your own life knowing the pain it'll bring your kids is selfish, you seek to end your own suffering yet bring heartache to those closest to you?

Plus you've now shown them this as a way out if things get tough for them as well, that's not an example i personally would want to set as a father.

That doesn't mean Robin was a bad person he just did what he thought he had to.
 
It was kind of a gift and a curse, he could make millions of people laugh and happy but not himself.

Hopefully he found peace
 
CashBanks said:
Mark Antony said:
I'm sitting, and how's that an attack? Relax, it's nowhere near that serious. I'm addressing this prevailing notion in the thread that what he did/suicide in general is selfish. Selfishness is a choice. You fellas have to learn to not take everything to heart.
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Suicide is a choice.

Sometimes the choices we make are for selfish reasons.

Gregory House said:
No one is attacking your opinion, he/she is just simply stating that calling people who commit suicide "selfish" is not the best choice of words
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I don't care, it's the truth how I see it, in my opinion what he did was selfish, that doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

TO ME to take your own life knowing the pain it'll bring your kids is selfish, you seek to end your own suffering yet bring heartache to those closest to you?

Plus you've now shown them this as a way out if things get tough for them as well, that's not an example i personally would want to set as a father.

That doesn't mean Robin was a bad person he just did what he thought he had to.
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:lol: :lol: you act as if committing suicide is like choosing between low fat and skim milk. It aint that easy b. You have to be pretty screwed up in the head to go through with it.

It's obvious you don't know much about the subject or know anyone that has been affected by this so you should probably keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Or at least do some research on suicide and depression before you start spouting off nonsense... :wink:
 
Bennyhinn said:
:lol: :lol: you act as if committing suicide is like choosing between low fat and skim milk. It aint that easy b. You have to be pretty screwed up in the head to go through with it.

It's obvious you don't know much about the subject or know anyone that has been affected by this so you should probably keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Or at least do some research on suicide and depression before you start spouting off nonsense... :wink:
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Show me where i said it was easy I'll wait.....

You don't know who or what I know, a kid I've know since high school hung himself almost 2 years ago, I'm very familiar with depression and I'm aware how tough it is, that doesn't change my opinion that if you have children it's selfish.

I had no idea expressing opinions on a sneaker message board was frowned upon,

everyone doesn't have to agree that's usually what a discussion is.

Now until i start disrespecting those with metal health issues or write them off in some fashion,

I'm going to ask that you shut the hell up and mind your damn business while you parade around on your high horse.

:wink:
 
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StillIn729 said:
"I don't suffer from depression so Robin's act was selfish"

I feel bad for some of y'all thinking like this
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This

As someone who has been thru depression & had a few family members take their lives , some of the responses in here are effed up
 
Selfish and wrong aren't the same thing.

He made a decision based on what he thought was best for him, regardless of how it affected it his loved ones.

By definition that's selfish.

Doesn't make Robin a bad guy or mean he didn't care about his family.

It just means he thought this was his only way out, in fact I'm sure he thought of how it would affect his kids and wife, he just decided it's what he had to do.

I genuinely feel for anyone who becomes so unhappy or depressed that they believe they need to kill themselves,

but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the choice in itself, in no way am I saying his problems weren't real or portraying him as some sort of coward, I personally believes it takes a lot to actually kill yourself.

Dudes on here see one word in a post and ignore everything else and then the herd mentality takes over.
 
There is nothing selfish about suicide. What is selfish is those of us who are left behind thinking that our loved one, who experienced such debilitating pain, somehow owed it to US to live.
 
CashBanks said:
Selfish and wrong aren't the same thing.

He made a decision based on what he thought was best for him, regardless of how it affected it his loved ones.

By definition that's selfish.
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And your opinion that he should of did something different because of other people is a selfish mentality as well, guess you two have something in common.
 
Bennyhinn said:
by saying suicide is a choice. That alone shows how clueless you are about the subject. Nobody chooses to be depressed. Do you think people choose to be gay as well? :lol:

But go ahead and keep enlarging fonts to make your points. Keep putting on that clown suit and digging yourself a hole in here.

We're just here shaking our head on the uneducated nonsense you're spewing... :smh:
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Suicide is a choice that's a fact,you have to choose to intentionally kill yourself that's not up for debate my man

now were did i say you choose to be depressed?

you're creating an argument out of nothing
 
Gregory House said:
There is nothing selfish about suicide. What is selfish is those of us who are left behind thinking that our loved one, who experienced such debilitating pain, somehow owed it to US to live.
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Bingo. The pain and dread of depression never lets a person shake free from such. Don't worry about mourning and not being able to move on, because many of those same people weren't in tune with the person enough anyway to notice an imbalance or at least pick up on the signs.
 
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So there are alot of suicides where depression isn't the root? And you're typing it, so clearly it's your opinion,there's really no need to get as defensive as you are. Good luck with all that though fam.
 
heLiumcLinton said:
And your opinion that he should of did something different because of other people is a selfish mentality as well, guess you two have something in common.
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Where did i say he should of done something differently?

I spoke on my opinion of what he did, I never said he shouldn't have killed himself it's his life he can do as he pleases

Why do you guys feel so offended that I don't see things the same way as you?

I haven't belittled, or disrespected anyone with mental health issues, I don't see what the problem is.

Am I not allowed to have an opinion of a public figures actions?

Mark Antony said:
So there are alot of suicides where depression isn't the root? And you're typing it, so clearly it's your opinion,there's really no need to get as defensive as you are. Good luck with all that though fam.
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I don't know what this is in response to or about, if it's in fact directed at me would you mind clarifying?
 
CashBanks said:
Bennyhinn said:
by saying suicide is a choice. That alone shows how clueless you are about the subject. Nobody chooses to be depressed. Do you think people choose to be gay as well? :lol:

But go ahead and keep enlarging fonts to make your points. Keep putting on that clown suit and digging yourself a hole in here.

We're just here shaking our head on the uneducated nonsense you're spewing... :smh:
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Suicide is a choice that's a fact,you have to choose to intentionally kill yourself that's not up for debate my man

now were did i say you choose to be depressed?

you're creating an argument out of nothing
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I'm addressing this, are they not linked? if the root of the pain isn't a choice, how strict can you hold the consequences tied to it?


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Bennyhinn said:
:lol: :lol: you act as if committing suicide is like choosing between low fat and skim milk. It aint that easy b. You have to be pretty screwed up in the head to go through with it.

It's obvious you don't know much about the subject or know anyone that has been affected by this so you should probably keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Or at least do some research on suicide and depression before you start spouting off nonsense... :wink:
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Show me where i said it was easy I'll wait.....

You don't know who or what I know, a kid I've know since high school hung himself almost 2 years ago, I'm very familiar with depression and I'm aware how tough it is, that doesn't change my opinion that if you have children it's selfish.

I had no idea expressing opinions on a sneaker message board was frowned upon,

everyone doesn't have to agree that's usually what a discussion is.

Now until i start disrespecting those with metal health issues or write them off in some fashion,

I'm going to ask that you shut the hell up and mind your damn business while you parade around on your high horse.

:wink:
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And also this, just a pet peeve. It's redundant, you're speaking, yes it's your opinion.



The "good luck" is my way of saying, I see this headed nowhere, i'll take my exit.
 
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CashBanks said:
Am I not allowed to have an opinion of a public figures actions?
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You're allowed to have any opinion you want, just like others are allowed to disagree with that opinion. Not belittling people doesn't strip anybody else of their right to disagree with your opinion.
 
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CashBanks said:
Suicide is a choice that's a fact,you have to choose to intentionally kill yourself that's not up for debate my man

now were did i say you choose to be depressed?

you're creating an argument out of nothing
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:lol: wow. it's astonishing how clueless you are about the subject and yet you keeping arguing for your baseless opinion.

I'm done with you man. This is like arguing with someone about the history of the Lakers and this person doesn't even know who Kobe Bryant is :lol: :smh:

Have a good day. Hopefully you find the time to do some research on depression and suicide and form a more educated opinion...
 
Bennyhinn said:
:lol: wow. it's astonishing how clueless you are about the subject and yet you keeping arguing for your baseless opinion.

I'm done with you man. This is like arguing with someone about the history of the Lakers and this person doesn't even know who Kobe Bryant is :lol: :smh:

Have a good day. Hopefully you find the time to do some research on depression and suicide and form a more educated opinion...
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I was never arguing with you in the first place sport
 
Mark Antony said:
I'm addressing this, are they not linked? if the root of the pain isn't a choice, how strict can you hold the consequences tied to it?
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I'm not saying he did anything wrong by killing himself, I don't think he would have done so if he saw another way out. I don't fault him for anything.

You can't choose to be depressed but you have a choice in how you handle it, for instance there are other posters in here who've struggled with depression as well but they went and got the help they needed that is courageous to me.

and I'm sure Robin fought his demons as long as he could, I just wish he could have fought longer is all

JPZx said:
You're allowed to have any opinion you want, just like others are allowed to disagree with that opinion. Not belittling people doesn't strip anybody else of their right to disagree with your opinion.
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I absolutely agree, but there are several cats in here acting as if my opinion is wrong and their's is right, express why you disagree with what I'm saying and move on several cats took it very personally.

you managed to respond like an adult so i don't see why i shouldn't expect the same of everyone else
 
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Saying suicide is a selfish act just opens people up for criticism and hypocrisy. I am sure we have all done things that is abusive to our own health and even to others around us without really have a regard to it. I mean when people do tons of drugs or drink, are they thinking "man, if I OD'd right now, I'd be hurting a lot of people around me". Some people are just not in their right mind state to think about what their actions can do.

And curving depression can be as hard as quitting smoking cigarettes or alcohol. In theory, all you have to do is quit. You can even choose to handle it different ways. The patch, 12 step program, AA, etc.....but do people do it? No. Some people just don't have the will power and I'd imagine Robin Williams was one of those people that just wasn't as strong as we thought he could be.
 
Mr Fongstarr said:
Saying suicide is a selfish act just opens people up for criticism and hypocrisy. I am sure we have all done things that is abusive to our own health and even to others around us without really have a regard to it. I mean when people do tons of drugs or drink, are they thinking "man, if I OD'd right now, I'd be hurting a lot of people around me". Some people are just not in their right mind state to think about what their actions can do.

And curving depression can be as hard as quitting smoking cigarettes or alcohol. In theory, all you have to do is quit. You can even choose to handle it different ways. The patch, 12 step program, AA, etc.....but do people do it? No. Some people just don't have the will power and I'd imagine Robin Williams was one of those people that just wasn't as strong as we thought he could be.
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Wow...EXCELLENT point, bro. Never thought of it that way.
 
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