Black Culture Discussion Thread

Repped. Gonna peep it now. Also recommend people check out the importantce of melanin, more specifically neuro-melanin.

Edit- victor page victor page thanks for posting that. It spoke to my soul man. He made some real good points there. Glad to see that cosmic evolution is becoming an easier thing to discuss and it's not some boogie man anymore
 
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IMO, the biggest issue with our community is that we've bought into a lot of the things other people say about us. For example, this rampid lie that we're significantly less educated and "there's more black men in prison than in college". I hear these repeated often by people who are supposed to lift us up, yet they fail to realize after you hear negativity so many times you start to buy into it. We crap on our own neighborhoods, businesses, schools. For example a black lady my father works with told him I live in the "ghetto" :rolleyes, yet it's nothing close to that and if the demographic was 80% white instead of 80% black with the same amount of crime, etc. nobody would call it a "ghetto".

We have to acknowledge our issues without casting a cloud of negativity over everything that's ours. Yes, crime is higher in our communities, but it's also seen significant improvement in the last 20 years. Yes, some of our college are lacking certain things a large majority school may provide, but they allow young black adults to grow and find themselves and gain mentorship. I just think we have to increase the positivity. Things like music, sagging pants, the n-word are just distraction topics a lot of lazy people use to place blame, when none of those address the root of the issues going on.

So yeah, I think we just need to learn to build each other up. A lot of our people have a "white is right" mentality and the minute they get a chance to get away from other blacks they do and look down on them with the :smh: like they're above them. We need the educated and the uneducated, the rich and the poor, to work together to build one strong community and keep our money within our communiites so they can grow.

Sorry for semi-rambling and any typos, hopefully my message is clear tho.
 
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zapatohead408 said:
The problems I see more than anything are the importance of material goods. People become vanity slaves. That as well as feeling as if they're owed something and using slavery as an excuse. I'm not saying this is only a problem in black communities, this is just where I see it most.

I think everybody's opinion is important on any subject.
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How are yall in here conversing with this guy making comments like this? :smh:

Sounding young n dumb, like you don't really know your history (because if you did you would know you are talking about yourself) either. I cannot stand melanin deficient folks acting all high and mighty, but this Tea good af though.

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Sorry guys, I know I said I was out, but this SN to post ratio is through the roof.

Now I'm out.
 
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I love my black people. We are the most creative, rhythmic, & prideful people. But have got to do better. Some of the things us black Americans do is straight up silly. I would also like to add, I think the restoration and modernization of Africa as a whole, will help Blacks come together.
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European nations will never let Africa go...countries in Africa is dead *** supporting these countries economies while the natives suffer
 
Why would Africa anything help us? We not seeing them restoration checks. My folks are from Southern Maryland and Alabama...honestly I care bout as much for Africa as I do for Europe...it's cool, but they ain't us, and I'm working on us. There are African Americans that can fight that Africa fight, I'm fighting for the Negro.


Goes back to is wanting to be something were not, we ain't African, we share some History, but culturally, genetically, socially, mentally, we ain't African and I'm not wearing some disheki to perpetuate that nonsense.
 
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hallywoodxo said:
Repped. Gonna peep it now. Also recommend people check out the importantce of melanin, more specifically neuro-melanin.

Edit-@VICTOR PAGE thanks for posting that. It spoke to my soul man. He made some real good points there. Glad to see that cosmic evolution is becoming an easier thing to discuss and it's not some boogie man anymore
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Can you expand on this?

I remember this being the theme of Hidden Colors 2 and never really understood it. 
 
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I pray your talking about my comment because it would prove my point. We have no cultural identity because we decide to reach past my mother, grandmother, her mother and her mother to some romantic African King that we are suppose to be. The last black King died on a balcony in '68, he's who I celebrate.
 
The biggest I see Is the lack of roots in the trees of black. I had a grandmother how was old but had common sense knowledge from reading and staying informed . Now days grandmother are in their 30s and only read what's in the tabloid.

Our leaders are more reactive than proactive

The black church stay fleecing our people

Rap has no message that is postive. Gangsta rap had a better message than what's out these days.

If your gonna be on food stamps at least feed the kids healthy meals. Hot pockets and star crunches will not help you in the long run
 
am1x90xnike said:
I pray your talking about my comment because it would prove my point. We have no cultural identity because we decide to reach past my mother, grandmother, her mother and her mother to some romantic African King that we are suppose to be. The last black King died on a balcony in '68, he's who I celebrate.
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BTW it's reparations not restorations.
 
Btw the guy was talking about restoring Africa, I responded 'we're not getting those restoration checks' (ie the material gain that would presumably flow from 'restoring'Africa) ....reading = fundamental.

Like honestly, what's this bs fixation we have with Africa? Over 400 years in a country yet we still clinging to the past, glossing over that 400 years...I don't know honestly. We spend all our time trying to unify Africa, what? Africa gets unified? 300+ black kids still die in Chicago. Africa ain't goin save us, we goin to save us. Africa is just another foreign country to me.
 
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am1x90xnike said:
Btw the guy was talking about restoring Africa, I responded 'we're not getting those restoration checks' (ie the material gain that would presumably flow from 'restoring'Africa) ....reading = fundamental.

Like honestly, what's this bs fixation we have with Africa? Over 400 years in a country yet we still clinging to the past, glossing over that 400 years...I don't know honestly. We spend all our time trying to unify Africa, what? Africa gets unified? 300+ black kids still die in Chicago. Africa ain't goin save us, we goin to save us. Africa is just another foreign country to me.
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Your whole life you've been told you only exist because of the kindness of whites, that your genesis was being a slave dragged out of a dump (Africa) and that you should be grateful to be here. Then someone tells you that you're not a slave, you're descended from kings, queens, and vast history that dwarfs the couple hundred years you've been here...and you say you'd rather stick to the lie that you're only a slave and MLK is your only leader/hero of worth.

I'm not saying this to school you because I think you're already too far gone, I'm saying this to show people the mentality of some of the Negroes out here in 2014.
 
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Your whole life you've been told you only exist because of the kindness of whites, that your genesis was being a slave dragged out of a dump (Africa) and that you should be grateful to be here. Then someone tells you that you're not a slave, you're descended from kings, queens, and vast history that dwarfs the couple hundred years you've been here...and you say you'd rather stick to the lie that you're only a slave and MLK is your only leader/hero of worth.

I'm not saying this to school you because I think you're already too far gone, I'm saying this to show people the mentality of some of the Negroes out here in 2014.
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He's shown who he is plenty of times on here. No saving dudes like him. He's Martin Baker.
 
See, that's where we...and I guess the rest of black people...differ. I was always told I came from a great family, my grandmother was a walking Angel and my grandfather was the smartest man in the county.

I don't identify with Africans, I wasn't raised to think of us being bought here as some tragedy or charity, it was always just a fact, I was taught it's more important 'improvise, adapt, overcome' spend less time looking behind and more time looking forward...that's my mentality, no 'white folk are the savior' or 'white folk are the enemy' all, what can I do to change my life and the lives of the ones I love. Every second spent pointing a finger is a second spent not solving the problem.

I wish more black folk would think like me...but as I grow older I'm learning people as a whole are complacent with oppression, only being part of change when it's forced upon them.

Dudes always on that 'he's a Tom' which,, after actually reading the book you'd see that's more of a complement, but y'all cats can't read a series of posts, shouldn't expect y'all to read an entire book lol.

And, as I have yet to get the answer, what do y'all want that different from what I want?

Education/investment in the hood
Complete restructure of the criminal justice system


Y'all want every ***** to get a check? A white slave? Maybe give us Tx to Atlanta and call it 'New Africa'...y'all want to go back to Africa?
What is the exact real world effect of Africa uniting on the life of the avg. negro?

I know no one will answer, but maybe y'all should ask yourself 'what's the point' before y'all jump on soapboxes.
 
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am1x90xnike said:
Btw the guy was talking about restoring Africa, I responded 'we're not getting those restoration checks' (ie the material gain that would presumably flow from 'restoring'Africa) ....reading = fundamental.

Like honestly, what's this bs fixation we have with Africa? Over 400 years in a country yet we still clinging to the past, glossing over that 400 years...I don't know honestly. We spend all our time trying to unify Africa, what? Africa gets unified? 300+ black kids still die in Chicago. Africa ain't goin save us, we goin to save us. Africa is just another foreign country to me.
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Is this guy serious? :wow:
 
am1x90xnike am1x90xnike

I'll gladly will have this debate with you. I was in the same shoes as you. I was on my way to becoming an officer in the military most likely flying jets. I had the same attitude you did, and that's not necessarily saying that it's wrong.

Some things happened in my life that changed my path. Reason I'm bringing this up is to say it seems like you got some self hatred towards blacks. And I don't mean in the sense that you hate black people, but more so that you expect better out of people and it's difficult to relate with the lowest common denominator when you're striving for greatness yourself. Again I can speak on this because I went through it.


Just gonna tell you it's programming of the conscious mind. White supremacy is like a vampire. You try to avoid it as much as possible, but once it bites you, you take on the characteristics of the vampire or in this case white supremacy and you live and feed off of that. Your ego will tell you that you're at where you're at because of your hard work, but at the end of the day you're only going where white supremacy lets you go.

Most people probably don't understand why we romanticize ancient Egyptian history, but it hits a nerve deep in all of us cause we were once there. We were aware that as people we were gonna have a fall from grace so we built physical memoirs around the world that would inspire the mind to strive for some thing greater.

It's a lot of metaphysical topics I'd like to bring in, but I'll say this: it's obvious the material world isn't working and failing at an alarming rate. When you tap into your spirituality and see who you truly are you'll see why people feel that connection to Africa, Sirius B, the universe etc.
 
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Offset POW CLOW said:
What did mlk malcom ali do when a white man called them the n-word?

Nothing it didnt faze them & they heard it everyday, it went in one ear & went out the other but now we got a rule if a white calls us the n word we gotta fight, its corny
Its crazy & i cant blame them because thats all they knew growing up
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so what is the true religion of our people ?
 
hallywoodxo said:
@am1x90xnike

I'll gladly will have this debate with you. I was in the same shoes as you. I was on my way to becoming an officer in the military most likely flying jets. I had the same attitude you did, and that's not necessarily saying that it's wrong.

Some things happened in my life that changed my path. Reason I'm bringing this up is to say it seems like you got some self hatred towards blacks. And I don't mean in the sense that you hate black people, but more so that you expect better out of people and it's difficult to relate with the lowest common denominator when you're striving for greatness yourself. Again I can speak on this because I went through it.


Just gonna tell you it's programming of the conscious mind. White supremacy is like a vampire. You try to avoid it as much as possible, but once it bites you, you take on the characteristics of the vampire or in this case white supremacy and you live and feed off of that. Your ego will tell you that you're at where you're at because of your hard work, but at the end of the day you're only going where white supremacy lets you go.

Most people probably don't understand why we romanticize ancient Egyptian history, but it hits a nerve deep in all of us cause we were once there. We were aware that as people we were gonna have a fall from grace so we built physical memoirs around the world that would inspire the mind to strive for some thing greater.

It's a lot of metaphysical topics I'd like to bring in, but I'll say this: it's obvious the material world isn't working and failing at an alarming rate. When you tap into your spirituality and see who you truly are you'll see why people feel that connection to Africa, Sirius B, the universe etc.
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At what point did I ever say anything resembling "whites were better" or that I got everywhere I got solely because of my hardwork? I know I have had help, I know I have had a lot of it, I've spoken about it on this board several times. 

It's just crazy to me, because I don't hate white people I somehow think they are better. Jesus, Martin, Brother El Shabazz, Ghandi, Socrates, Confucious etc. have all preached forgiveness, yet when it comes down to the come down, forgiveness is not something you actually want, peace is not something ya'll actually wish to obtain. Wanting peace doesn't mean there is never a time for the war, it just means war is a high price and before we send young men to die for whatever reason, we should try to find a peaceful solution.

I don't have to hate someone to bring war against them, I just have to love someone else more, and I love those who have helped me, black or white or Spanish or Asian, more than I love some random dude because we share the same skin color.

I prefer not to dwell on what the world has done to me our my people, I prefer to concentrate on what me and my people can do for the world, have done for the world. I care about as much about Africa as I do any other region. It's as if the only pride black people have is in Africa. Personally, I'm a fan of Nat Turner, Martin Luther King, My mother, my grandmother, Brother El shabazz, Jay-z, Russel Simmons and the hundreds of other Negroes that made their way, I don't need to look back to Africa to find pride in my skin tone.

also, ya'll still never told me what ya'll wanted. world peace? negro supremecy?

And honestly, I don't understand why ya'll would have a problem with someone saying "I prefer to think about my Negro brothers than I do about anyone across the sea." like, I don't understand the issue there.
 
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I spoke too soon. If that's what works for you more power to you. I hope you see the success beyond that of Jay-Z and Russell Simmons.
 
Anyway...... I'm glad to see that this thread is stil standing, a lil shaky but still
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I see that it would be more productive to brainstorm on ways to get off the porch and start working.

Teaching instead of preaching, all the narratives have been said already up to this point. question is how do you go about it.

Everybody wants to go from 0 to 100 but don't understand that it's harder to get thru to people while your critizing them, be better to be patient and optimistic

I know it's minuscule to the grand scheme, but I've been working in my local area to get businesses with large open walls in the middle of the more urban areas to work with me on putting together community art walls. I understand the geography of it all, A community art wall cannot be in certain spots, I get sticky myself, so I'm going to put my own money up to make a few murals down here in those spots.

I think that art is universal and everybody no matter what their interests are can appreciate it. The fact that it is in the more urban areas and not some space downtown or not some upscale museum is reason enough to take a shine to it

It's from locals for locals, around my way, there isn't any street art like there probably is where you guys live, all the graffiti here has been buffed out.

I wanna expose these kids to real artistry, open their minds to a world they probably never knew, opposed to being exploited to whatever they see on TV, In the process maybe I could make a few artists or at least make someone interested.

I've already got a few spots (may have to bribe some people, but I'm okay with it lol) and I understand the possible consequences of making these walls. I may make a few vandals, I may make a few hecklers (regarding success) but I feel no plan is perfect and if I help broaden a few minds, I'm willing to take the risks.

Working on a few quirks but I should have my first one started in September, huge walls outside of an auto shop, it's in the perfect spot, on a main road and so much space. I contacted a few underground vigilante's and alot of great artists in my area, their all pumped, once all the other artists in my area find out they are going to freak as well. Im even open to out of towners contributing, Im going to take the lead ahead of my fellow, so that it can have a strong base. I hope that in the spirit of being creative and genuine and working not for money but for pride that this wall brings an overall feel of love and respect and comradery from the artist to the people. I know it's not gonna stop anybody from killin each other but it's a step closer. It's also somewhere where all the kids walk to go to school, Im hopin this wall gives somebody a little bit of quintessence of their hometown, and they take it wherever they're going. Let me know if you guys have any ideas, suggestions.
 
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