Black Culture Discussion Thread

This guy is a bloody idiot. He really tried to make his point with science when there is a ton of literature out there published that black people simply never evolved. I'm not a fan of militant feminists but the chick was right.  It's sad that people like him make being pro-black synonymous with homophobia and sexism. scum.
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This guy is a bloody idiot. He really tried to make his point with science when there is a ton of literature out there published that black people simply never evolved. I'm not a fan of militant feminists but the chick was right.  It's sad that people like him make being pro-black synonymous with homophobia and sexism. scum.
What literature is this? some ol' 1875 racist bull **** ?
 
wouldn't disagree that a language could have that affect, and not that any other action should exclude it, devising a new language is no small or quick undertaking, and to have it formalized and taught seems like it would be a massive thing especially given the current shortcoming of the current system, the same end goal might be achieved by a different framing easier? is esparanto big? i've actually never heard it spoken or met a speaker..not that that means anything

THIS. This right here... could have ended you a world of frustration(frankly should have ended your entire post). You agreed with me, you agree with me but you are going out of your way to try and make me out to be some kind of extremist or some type of sensationalist. You have a problem with all this "pro-blackness" talk and think that our problems are greatly exaggerated and make out every chance that you can to try and make out some type of moot point. which is all you've been doing-

A MOOT POINT: A IRRELEVANT QUESTION, A MATTER OF NO IMPORTANCE. NOT SUBJECT TO DEBATE. UNRELATED.- really this should really have ended my post.


This is why I stopped responding to you a few months ago when you did the same thing with the random nonsensical responses that have nothing to do with trying to improve or even actually disagreeing with me. Almost like you are trying to prove something...

Lets' just agree to disagree(even tho I have no clue what you are actually disagreeing about). We have derailed the thread enough. you really don't even have to respond, I am up for no reason and have to be in school in a few hours, I am done entertaining this nonsense. @tokes99

i find that an odd critique...don't see why a discussion should stop on agreement, a discussion is a back & forth, no? i don't mean to imply extremism, just an honest parsing of the stated goal and the means by which you suggested to achieve it; like using language to attempt to unity a people is really difficult thing (ask china) isn't there an easier way to do the same thing? i have no problem with 'pro blackness,' i am a black man...but here is a question, why has the discussion been so one-sided? for example, black women live in this same world face some of the same challenges, and by many measures are doing much better than black men; how are black women coping in ways that black men are not? why shouldn't that be brought up?

you say its all random nonsense, (i could probably spend more time and be much more focused & succinct, though the effort reward equation for a forum post is low incentive) but it makes sense to me that all these things connect...
 
This guy is a bloody idiot. He really tried to make his point with science when there is a ton of literature out there published that black people simply never evolved. I'm not a fan of militant feminists but the chick was right.  It's sad that people like him make being pro-black synonymous with homophobia and sexism. scum.
NOTICE SOMETHING BOUT THIS CHARACTER HERE FELLAS HE LURKS THIS THREAD HE BRINGS NO INFO IN BUT AS SOON AS SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY HE COMES RUNNING OUTTA NO WHERE RAISING THE FLAG FOR THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT BUT WILL SAY" I'M NOT A HOMOSEXUAL" LIKE VIC SAID "IT'S THE SAME DUDES EVERY TIME" THIS CLOWN HERE ONLY COMMENTS ON THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS ARGUMENT I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE BLOCKED FROM THIS THREAD HONESTLY...... I'VE SAID BEFORE THE WORD "HOMOPHOBIA" IS DUMB & YOU SOUND PRETTY GOOFY USING THAT WORD CAUSE IT'S A MADE UP WORD BECAUSE NO ONE IS SCARED OF HOMOSEXUALS A PHOBIA IS A FEAR....BUT LOOK AT THIS WOMAN ARGUING BLACK FEMINIST WITH KINKY CURLY AFRO SHE COULD POSSIBLY BE A AGENT CHECK HER OUT....
 
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UMAR CHEWED HER UP & SPIT HER OUT FINALLY ONE OF THE LEADERS ADDRESS THIS FOOLISH ARGUMENT...
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Black feminists
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easily one of the worst groups out there with no real agenda or plan.
...... he said homosexuality was declassified as a mental illness in order to takeover the black civil rights struggle......

and yall think he's making sense?

lol.... what is going on in here.... this is rediculous... 

he also said homosexuals and lesbians are the purveryors of most pedophilia...

which he should know is wrong because the pathology for pedophilia is not gender dependent

"where were lgbt groups when mike brown was murdered"

Protesters for Michael Brown march in solidarity with LGBT activists eastward down Manchester Avenue in The Grove neighborhood on Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2014, as peaceful but fervent demonstrations erupted all over the St. Louis area. Photo by Christian Gooden, cgooden@post-dispatch.com

Protesters started at the San Francisco LGBT Community Center at 1800 Market St. and walked to Octavia Boulevard and the off-ramp from Highway 101.

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I can keep going...but how many instances do you need?

Dr. Umar is giving the same "well why don't black people protest when they kill each other"

type of response that white people give in order to deflect the issue.

I just lost alot of respect for him 
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Since when is answering a legitimate inquiry with pure unadulterated rhetoric chewing someone up and spitting them out
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I'm surprised you engaged that cornball for so long
He is trying to be sincere but doesn't realize his aimed post are unwarranted and come off as malicious. Was going to continue to quarrel with him but it would really be for no reason and to serve no purpose, my bad for enabling him and clogging this thread with more nonsense
 
That was about all I needed to read, thanks for trying.  It's funny how the same couple trolls in here keep trying to derail the thread with the same LGBT whining.  Can you lot come up with a new deflection tactic already?
 
wait...

so somebody posts a video of Dr. Umar speaking on LBGT people.

People in the thread cosign and agree 

I disagree, and provide evidence to my argument

I get labelled a troll and told i'm "deflecting"

Where is the logic in this?

I responded to a topic you guys wanted to discuss...

otherwise why post the video of Dr. Umar discussing it?
 
 
wait...

so somebody posts a video of Dr. Umar speaking on LBGT people.

People in the thread cosign and agree 

I disagree, and provide evidence to my argument

I get labelled a troll and told i'm "deflecting"

Where is the logic in this?

I responded to a topic you guys wanted to discuss...

otherwise why post the video of Dr. Umar discussing it?
Because the purpose of the post was not to discuss it or debate it, but to celebrate it.
 
wait...

so somebody posts a video of Dr. Umar speaking on LBGT people.

People in the thread cosign and agree 

I disagree, and provide evidence to my argument

I get labelled a troll and told i'm "deflecting"


Where is the logic in this?
I responded to a topic you guys wanted to discuss...
otherwise why post the video of Dr. Umar discussing it?
THE LOGIC IS SOME OF YALL DUDES ONLY COME IN WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE LBGT MOVEMENT.....NEVER COME TO DISCUSS OTHER TOPICS ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY GOES AGAINST THE LBGT MOVEMENT YALL COME OUT OF THE WOOD WORKS....NOW THE LBGT MOVEMENT STARTED AS A RESULT OF A PUBLIC POLICY CALLED "BENIGN NEGLECT" BY DANIEL MOYNIHAN & WHEN HE GAVE IT TO RICHARD NIXON THEY SHIFTED ALL THE FOCUS ON THE LBGT MOVEMENT & LEFT BLACKS OUT IN THE COLD.....THAT WAS THAT POLICIES PURPOSE TO IGNORE THE BLACKS & MOVE TO OTHER ISSUSES.....
 
 
wait...

so somebody posts a video of Dr. Umar speaking on LBGT people.

People in the thread cosign and agree 

I disagree, and provide evidence to my argument

I get labelled a troll and told i'm "deflecting"


Where is the logic in this?
I responded to a topic you guys wanted to discuss...
otherwise why post the video of Dr. Umar discussing it?
THE LOGIC IS SOME OF YALL DUDES ONLY COME IN WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE LBGT MOVEMENT.....NEVER COME TO DISCUSS OTHER TOPICS ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY GOES AGAINST THE LBGT MOVEMENT YALL COME OUT OF THE WOOD WORKS....NOW THE LBGT MOVEMENT STARTED AS A RESULT OF A PUBLIC POLICY CALLED "BENIGN NEGLECT" BY DANIEL MOYNIHAN & WHEN HE GAVE IT TO RICHARD NIXON THEY SHIFTED ALL THE FOCUS ON THE LBGT MOVEMENT & LEFT BLACKS OUT IN THE COLD.....THAT WAS THAT POLICIES PURPOSE TO IGNORE THE BLACKS & MOVE TO OTHER ISSUSES.....
Benign neglect has nothing to do with pushing the lgbt agenda.

Have you even studied the philosphy of the policy?

The real disctraction is being done by people like you and umar, who don't understand that this negative fascination with homosexuals is being used to divide the struggle for equality.

You can't focus on making progress when you have to constantly point at the lgbt community and try to justify your negative opinion of them. Let them be, address them with respect, march in solidarity when you both have the same ideas and goals in mind.

I think homosexual acts are disgusting to me in the same way that people who are into scat is disgusting to me.

But I'm not gonna push a negative agenda against any group when im focused on a positive agenda for my group.

I jump in here to deal with these issues:

solutions for strengthening group economics

black people's obsession with egypt

lack of leadership in the current civil rights movement

Religion being used to undermine progress

attacks on the lgbt community being a waste of energy and time
 
I dont understand how ppl on this thread can compare the two. The homosexual community are fighting for a lifestyle right. Blacks are fighting to be basically human for the most part. I mean there are LAWS in some states were blk ppl were considered 3/4 of a human. ITS NO COMPARISON. And this whole myth that "the black community is homophobic" smh tell that the dominant majority population of religious whites in the country esp rural south and mid west smh.
 
 
I dont understand how ppl on this thread can compare the two. The homosexual community are fighting for a lifestyle right. Blacks are fighting to be basically human for the most part. I mean there are LAWS in some states were blk ppl were considered 3/4 of a human. ITS NO COMPARISON. And this whole myth that "the black community is homophobic" smh tell that the dominant majority population of religious whites in the country esp rural south and mid west smh.
1. I didnt see anybody compare homosexuality with being black. Quote the post you are responding to.

2. Almost all communities are  pretty much homophobic. whites. blacks. hispanic, asian etc. Who in here specifically pointed at the black community? Quote it.
 
 
Benign neglect has nothing to do with pushing the lgbt agenda.

Have you even studied the philosphy of the policy?

The real disctraction is being done by people like you and umar, who don't understand that this negative fascination with homosexuals is being used to divide the struggle for equality.

You can't focus on making progress when you have to constantly point at the lgbt community and try to justify your negative opinion of them. Let them be, address them with respect, march in solidarity when you both have the same ideas and goals in mind.

I think homosexual acts are disgusting to me in the same way that people who are into scat is disgusting to me.

But I'm not gonna push a negative agenda against any group when im focused on a positive agenda for my group.

I jump in here to deal with these issues:

solutions for strengthening group economics

black people's obsession with egypt

lack of leadership in the current civil rights movement

Religion being used to undermine progress

attacks on the lgbt community being a waste of energy and time
NO Umar did not attack the lgbt community. He is basically talking the history of how the movement came into form in this country and how it is now being intertwined with the black struggle and confusing ppl.
 
 
1. I didnt see anybody compare homosexuality with being black. Quote the post you are responding to.

2. Almost all communities are  pretty much homophobic. whites. blacks. hispanic, asian etc. Who in here specifically pointed at the black community? Quote it.
then there is NO reason why the lgbt should be bought up in this thread
 
THE LOGIC IS SOME OF YALL DUDES ONLY COME IN WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE LBGT MOVEMENT.....NEVER COME TO DISCUSS OTHER TOPICS ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY GOES AGAINST THE LBGT MOVEMENT YALL COME OUT OF THE WOOD WORKS....NOW THE LBGT MOVEMENT STARTED AS A RESULT OF A PUBLIC POLICY CALLED "BENIGN NEGLECT" BY DANIEL MOYNIHAN & WHEN HE GAVE IT TO RICHARD NIXON THEY SHIFTED ALL THE FOCUS ON THE LBGT MOVEMENT & LEFT BLACKS OUT IN THE COLD.....THAT WAS THAT POLICIES PURPOSE TO IGNORE THE BLACKS & MOVE TO OTHER ISSUSES.....
 
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 NO Umar did not attack the lgbt community. He is basically talking the history of how the movement came into form in this country and how it is now being intertwined with the black struggle and confusing ppl.
1. Claims the only reason that homosexuality isn't considered a mental disease is because it is being used to stifle black civil rights

2. Tries to make correlation (even though there is no proven scientific connection) with homosexuality and pedophilia.

3. Uses the psych book (that he earlier showed to be easily manipulated by politics) to "prove" there is no such thing as homophobia

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attacks.
 
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