Black Culture Discussion Thread

Rootin4EverybodyBlack said:

You’re right, lack of education doesn’t mean you’re a complete dunce, however, I’m gonna keep it real with you bro, a good portion of Black women have at minimum a bachelor’s degree. With the exception of one person, every woman I’ve met over their mid twenties without a bachelor’s has been an idiot

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it’s funny because i believe this is generally the case across ethnicities in western societies, women tending to be more schooled than the men is not just specific to black folk but it’s only in the public discourse as being an issue for black women…that is changing tho because the zeitgeist now is that boys & men across the board are falling behind & all the while women are still having kids (albeit less of them) but not linking with these men either because the women don’t really rock the guys in terms of seeing him as a viable mate or vice versa

Good Lord.

Open a window.

All this over...Amanda Seales? Word?

Sounding like an episode of "The View" in here.

Some of ya'll sound like the type of dudes to start acting weird when the women come around.

tokes99 said:

it’s funny because i believe this is generally the case across ethnicities in western societies, women tending to be more schooled than the men is not just specific to black folk but it’s only in the public discourse as being an issue for black women…that is changing tho because the zeitgeist now is that boys & men across the board are falling behind & all the while women are still having kids (albeit less of them) but not linking with these men either because the women don’t really rock the guys in terms of seeing him as a viable mate or vice versa

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Forefathers didn’t want women to be anything other than homemakers because they wanted to CONTROL and manipulate them. Times have changed.

People don’t understand that you can still be masculine, still be an alpha male and have a smart, well-to-do, smart and assertive woman. It’s a BONUS.

We still can exist in world where men can be masculine and still exhibit their innate, primal traits AS WELL as women being empowered. They can exist in unison. People don’t realize that

Present said:

Good Lord.

Open a window.

All this over...Amanda Seales? Word?

Sounding like an episode of "The View" in here.

Some of ya'll sound like the type of dudes to start acting weird when the women come around.

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You was the same dude that go to church every Sunday (and bible study on Wednesday) but complained about not being able to find chics and complaining about their code of conduct.

….Catch the sideline bro

I ain’t forget you “Oh… oh.. oh Mo’Nique let’s her husband be a man and call the shots… whyyyyy can’t I find a woman who who will acquiesce to my wants and needs?”

….. said by a sanctified man who goes to church You better go to one of them church convections and scout

finessence said:

Exactly. Bro, even some of the hood girls I went to school with, cared about their education and maintained GREAT grades.

I had a cousin who was a straight A student but her mom and dad didn’t really care about education so, she struggled at FAMU. Fast forward now, she works for Spirit airlines and travels across the country to train. She’s 32 and just bought a house 2 years ago.

I have cousins who graduated from Texas Southern, North Texas, Nova Southeastern, FSU.

My mom has held the same job at Broward General medical center since 1993. My Grandmother has been at her job since 1971.

I just come from a line of educated women so, can’t let them get slighted but, my “pimp hand” can still be strong.

My cousin in Texas owns two homes, literally would fly to audit banks WHILE pregnant. I have another cousin with an autistic son, she’s got degrees from FSU and NSU and she owns 3 homes.

Some of these women are GETTING IT!

My 23 year old cousin just got her pharmacy degree from FAMU.

6 females in my family all under 40 are KILLING the game.

I’m just saying, don’t know about some families out here but the women I grew with and around all had major hustle game.

My family is predominately women and it’s shameful but, they’re outpacing the me n.

Im one of the few males in my family who hasn’t done prison or jail time. I’m probably the only one without a criminal record

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No disrespect to you and your family champ…….and only because you didn’t mention it but if all 6 of those women in your family under 40 ain’t married then they ain’t killing NOTHING. Especially the ones with kids. Continue on though.

finessence said:

You was the same dude that go to church every Sunday (and bible study on Wednesday) but complained about not being able to find chics and complaining about their code of conduct.

….Catch the sideline bro

I ain’t forget you “Oh… oh.. oh Mo’Nique let’s her husband be a man and call the shots… whyyyyy can’t I find a woman who who will acquiesce to my wants and needs?”

….. said by a sanctified man who goes to church You better go to one of them church convections and scout

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finessence said:

Forefathers didn’t want women to be anything other than homemakers because they wanted to CONTROL and manipulate them. Times have changed.

People don’t understand that you can still be masculine, still be an alpha male and have a smart, well-to-do, smart and assertive woman. It’s a BONUS.

We still can exist in world where men can be masculine and still exhibit their innate, primal traits AS WELL as women being empowered. They can exist in unison. People don’t realize that

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we will see, because i believe at this point almost half of kids are born out of wedlock & almost a third without fathers in the home…where & from whom will these young chirren see as the example of masculinity, when most grade school teachers are women, there aren’t many invested men in these neighborhoods & even if there were there is a stigma around men & children…add in that the breed of masculinity that is acceptable & championed now is what is convenient to women’s sensibilities (even as the women folk reward the ‘toxic’ traits in their personal lives)

and no no doubt some men wanted to control their women, but not sure how broadly applicable that trope is…i don’t think any man has a problem w/intelligent women or even assertive women (given some caveats) but my guess is

1) it just isn’t a priority for most guys
2) those traits come with a suite other traits that make those type of women harder to deal with/less desirable
3) women that actually put these skills to use and become successful aren’t usually cool/satisfied with doing what men in their position tend to do, which is be the breadwinner that supports their partner indefinitely without the expectation that the spouse should eventually level up to exceed or at least meet them

for sure there are women that value men beyond their ability to earn, but as marriage rates are continually declining, not sure that most women agree with you

Attractiveness and personality are always going to be the first things you look for in a partner. I include how they think into their personality.

Everything else just adds to being relatable and compatible with them and their social spaces.

tokes99 said:

we will see, because i believe at this point almost half of kids are born out of wedlock & almost a third without fathers in the home…where & from whom will these young chirren see as the example of masculinity, when most grade school teachers are women, there aren’t many invested men in these neighborhoods & even if there were there is a stigma around men & children…add in that the breed of masculinity that is acceptable & championed now is what is convenient to women’s sensibilities (even as the women folk reward the ‘toxic’ traits in their personal lives)

and no no doubt some men wanted to control their women, but not sure how broadly applicable that trope is…i don’t think any man has a problem w/intelligent women or even assertive women (given some caveats) but my guess is

1) it just isn’t a priority for most guys
2) those traits come with a suite other traits that make those type of women harder to deal with/less desirable
3) women that actually put these skills to use and become successful aren’t usually cool/satisfied with doing what men in their position tend to do, which is be the breadwinner that supports their partner indefinitely without the expectation that the spouse should eventually level up to exceed or at least meet them

for sure there are women that value men beyond their ability to earn, but as marriage rates are continually declining, not sure that most women agree with you

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Welcome back champ!! Glad you finally took the cape off. Now you’re preaching and spitting from the Survivor Scrolls. That’s good game right there. You just might have gotten the last ticket to the Players Ball. Your invite is still under review. Keep up the good work.

EYE don't think people are saying they don't want an educated wife. It's more so that they have an issue with someone belittles others based on their academic achievements and is combative because they perceive themselves as being smarter than others simply because they have a degree. This is particularly evident in the dating world, where some women use their education to make others feel inferior. For example, a building manager made a pass to a female colleague. Another female colleague and her were talking and they brought it up and she responded by saying, "What do I look like dating someone who works in a building?" and they both laughed. Hombre manages a portfolio of buildings and has a side business for HVAC and plumbing. Most of the time he's in trades man clothes, but every now and then you'll see him more polished. Women who operate like this tend to always end up single or quickly shacking up with someone just to say they have someone cause time is running out on them.

tomdiginson said:

EYE don't think people are saying they don't want an educated wife. It's more so that they have an issue with someone belittles others based on their academic achievements and is combative because they perceive themselves as being smarter than others simply because they have a degree.

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This is actually my biggest gripe with participating in society as a whole, no exaggeration.

Everyone judges everyone. And it's USUALLY based on some feeling of superiority they think they have over the person they're judging. And it doesn't matter if they spend legitimate time with these folks to obtain a decent understanding of them or if they heard this person say two sentences, as is your example. Everyone's so ****ing superior than the next.

I don't need it. Yall can keep it.

Thanks for being the voice of reason tomdiginson because nobody has listened to anything each other has been saying these last few pages.

Black Men… need to be grateful and graceful… when it comes to all types of relationships… because by default… collectively… we all control the culture.

Broken down… the word culture… can be heard as… “cult-chore.”

As we all know… the word cult… means “hidden.”

So that means: culture = cult chore = hidden chore.

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In 2024… the hidden chore… is not so hidden anymore.

The cult chore… in 2024… is creation.

We are all products of creation.

Creation… as the “cult-chore”… or not so hidden chore… in 2024… and since creation… is… and has always been… sex.

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As Black men… collectively… we all have to understand… that both men and women… of all races… have to fulfill the needs… of the “cult-chore.”

As Black men… collectively… we all have to understand… that within the supply and demand dynamic the “cult-chore” creates… we are always… on the positive side… of the demand.

In 2024… population wise… there are more men than women.

In 2024… for women of all races… when it comes to “cult-chore” demand fulfillment… Black men are not only at the top of the pyramid when it comes to demand fulfillment… we are also simultaneously the least populated race within the male fulfillment selection population of women.

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All men are the prize.

All men matter.

In 2024… as Black men though… when it comes to the “cult-chore” of the world… we all need to be especially grateful and graceful… in understanding that the past has proven… that we are all… the grand prize.

With that being said… with our power and demand… we could all either take the Iceberg Slim route… the single The Life of Pablo Kanye route… or the married The Life of Pablo Kanye Route.

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I honestly believe that in 2024… that if all men understood… that ALL MEN OF ALL races… mathematically… are outnumbered… by all women of all races… men would stop war, racism… and all other male on male conflict.

If every man on this earth had one woman… mathematically… there would be A LOT of women… that would be without a man.

I believe that if every man was fulfilled by one woman… of any race… all war, racism, and all other conflict… between men… would end.

Sexually fulfilled men would not want to fight any other man in any way… no matter the race, religion, county of origin, etc. etc etc… of the other man… because every man of every race… would be sexually fulfilled.

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With that being said… in 2024… I believe all men… need to all inform each other… mathematically… of our power and our position… when it comes to the supply and demand dynamic… of the “cult-chore.”

Women who do not have men in 2024… literally might begin going to war with other women… for the right to be fulfilled… emotionally and physically… by any man… due to the negative mathematical position of women… when it comes to the supply and demand dynamic… of the “cult chore.”

All men… mathematically… could either be Iceberg Slim… the single The Life of Pablo Kanye… or the married The Life of Pablo Kanye… because of math.

With that being said… whatever choice any man makes when it comes to relationships… mathematically… we should all… live and let live… when it comes to all other men.

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If a man wants to be Iceberg Slim in 2024… respectfully… he should always be at the home his woman earned… always ignoring all other men.

If a man wants to be the single The Life of Pablo Kanye in 2024… respectfully… he should always be doing whatever he wants with whatever woman he wants… while always ignoring all other men.

If a man wants to be the married The Life of Pablo Kanye in 2024… respectfully… he should always be doing whatever he wants with his wife and children… while always ignoring all other men.

In closing… I believe that in 2024… all men should be grateful… that they should always be too busy… gracefully preparing to fulfill the needs… of the “cult-chore” of women… to ever fight… any other man… of any race… from any country… from any religion… in any way… for any reason.

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5 minutes into this interview and she seems figured out to me.
She says she's literal...men love that.

She also, clearly, doesn't take criticism at all. Let alone take it well. It is what it is. It's one thing for one person to tell you something about yourself that you don't agree with. Sure brush it off. But multiple people telling you the same thing? At least do some introspection and try to see how they came to such a conclusion.

DCAllAfrican said:

Thanks for being the voice of reason tomdiginson because nobody has listened to anything each other has been saying these last few pages.

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