Seat reclining etiquitte on planes, trains, and busses....

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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Airline passengers have come to expect a tiny escape from the confined space of today’s packed planes: the ability to recline their seat a few inches. When one passenger was denied that bit of personal space Sunday, it led to a heated argument and the unscheduled landing of their plane, just halfway to its destination.

The fight started on a United Airlines flight because one passenger was using the Knee Defender, a $21.95 gadget that attaches to a passenger’s tray table and prevents the person in front of them from reclining.

“Knee Defender helps you stop reclining airplane seatbacks so your knees won’t have to,” read a description of the device on its website, which was inaccessible Tuesday afternoon. “If the airlines will not protect people from being battered, crunched, and immobilized – very real problems according to healthcare professionals, medical studies, government agencies, and even some airlines – then people need options to protect themselves.”
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The fight started when the male passenger, seated in a middle seat of row 12, used the Knee Defender to stop the woman in front of him from reclining while he was on his laptop, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak.

A flight attendant asked him to remove the device and he refused. The woman then stood up, turned around and threw a cup of water at him, the official says. That’s when United decided to land in Chicago.
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Fight Over Reclining Seat Causes Newark-To-Denver United Flight To Be Diverted

I usually don't recline my seat and am good with it in the normal position, but do any of you ask, or at least tell the person behind you, that you're about to recline? What this guy did was a real **** move, tho. Gotta think he's gonna be the one who is levied the fine.
 
I've been on flights from Laguardia that were seated to capacity. I bet the two involved both had middle seats. Having that seat will put anyone on edge it's beyond uncomfortable.

Edit: yep a middle seat. Just having that seat puts you in a pissed off mood. Both he and the woman in front of him were already pissed and tempers clashed.
 
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That's some sense of entitlement right there. Broke *** shouldn't be flying coach if wants to fly like a princess.
 
The worst is Spirit Airlines. If you're over 5'1", you're gonna be cramped if someone reclines.
 
Worst **** ever. Someone leaned back as I was eating one time and caused my drink to spill over the rest of my food.
 
Man I'm average height over 5'11" with patellar tendinitis is one knee and have had reconstructive knee surgery on the other. My legs are about as susceptible to discomfort as anyone out there.

NEVER had a problem with the amount of space in front of me except when flying Spirit and Allegiant Air. Simple fix, don't fly on those budget airlines if you're flight is longer than 60-90 minutes.

Shoulder space is a much more serious problem if you got broad shoulders and don't get that aisle seat.
 
I'm 6'3'' I have no problem with dude doing this. I never recline my seat because I hate when others do it. I'm always cramped on flights unless I get the emergency row. I've actually been meaning to buy that device
 
ICE CITY FC said:
Man I'm average height over 5'11" with patellar tendinitis is one knee and have had reconstructive knee surgery on the other. My legs are about as susceptible to discomfort as anyone out there.

NEVER had a problem with the amount of space in front of me except when flying Spirit and Allegiant Air. Simple fix, don't fly on those budget airlines if you're flight is longer than 60-90 minutes.

Shoulder space is a much more serious problem if you got broad shoulders and don't get that aisle seat.
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You must be all torso then. I'm 6'0 and never been comfortable except exit rows
 
had no idea those Knee Defenders even existed. would be nice to have something similar for those people who falcon kicks your seat at the theaters :x
 
DatZNasty said:
ICE CITY FC said:
Man I'm average height over 5'11" with patellar tendinitis is one knee and have had reconstructive knee surgery on the other. My legs are about as susceptible to discomfort as anyone out there.

NEVER had a problem with the amount of space in front of me except when flying Spirit and Allegiant Air. Simple fix, don't fly on those budget airlines if you're flight is longer than 60-90 minutes.

Shoulder space is a much more serious problem if you got broad shoulders and don't get that aisle seat.
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You must be all torso then. I'm 6'0 and never been comfortable except exit rows
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It's an airplane. Nobody is comfortable. Get to you destination and keep it moving like 99.9% of other travelers.

I guess I should have been more clear when I said never had a problem I meant never have I had someone's seat make physical contact with me on any decent airline. Would more space be nice yea, so would free cocktails.

The seats recline like 5 inches at the highest point. At the point where your knees are were talking a couple of inches.

If you're not physically touching the seat in front of you need to chill. All this talk of contraptions and confronting the person in front of you is doing the most.
 
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If I'm headed to Asia/Europe/overseas, then yes I recline.

Especially when the cabin lights are dimmed and pretty much everyone has their seat reclined.
 
Some of you must not have flown anywhere outside of your states in your lives, talking about it's inconsiderate to lean back. It might be pointless on a one hour flight from SF to LA but try not doing that on a 11 hour+ flight across the Pacific :lol: get that nonsense fake sophistication out of here.
 
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I'm saying. Dudes talking about flight etiquette.

When I fly I'd wager the majority of people have their seats reclined it's a non issue.
 
SFC415 said:
Some of you must not have flown anywhere outside of your states in your lives, talking about it's inconsiderate to lean back. It might be pointless on a one hour flight from SF to LA but try not doing that on a 11 hour+ flight across the Pacific :lol: get that nonsense fake sophistication out of here.
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I've flown from NYC to Vegas without reclining. Also have been on a bus for 12 hours without reclining. I fall asleep anywhere and I'm way more concerned with my knees and their space. I cramp up really easily.
 
With the amount of $ the airlines charge especially for checking bags, I'm definitely leaning back.
 
This is the defining question of our generation...

I hate it when people recline. I understand on long flights with bigger seats, but not on the typical 2-3 hour flight in a tight plane. The person leaning back is rarely even someone tall who needs it. It's usually some self-entitled 12-year-old girl going through her first bleed and flying to her step-father's ranch in Texas while she watches Iggy videos on her 5th iPad. She also manages to kick the seat in front of her while leaned back.

It's ok though. Whenever someone leans back on me, I let me knees dance.
 
whywesteppin said:
This is the defining question of our generation...

I hate it when people recline. I understand on long flights with bigger seats, but not on the typical 2-3 hour flight in a tight plane. The person leaning back is rarely even someone tall who needs it. It's usually some self-entitled 12-year-old girl going through her first bleed and flying to her step-father's ranch in Texas while she watches Iggy videos on her 5th iPad. She also manages to kick the seat in front of her while leaned back.

It's ok though. Whenever someone leans back on me, I let me knees dance.
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What's worse is people in exit rows who don't "NEED" the space. 5'1" dudes in exit rows piss me off. Looking all smug like they just got a frapacino or some bull from starbucks and reading some weak *** NY Times article on why it's better to get organic quiona. Bragging about how they own an emu and what not and how smiling at all the space they have knowing damn well they don't need it and their frail ***** couldn't open that emergency door. I NEED THAT SPACE B! I give them death stares too. I've got to be all cramped while you drink your mocha late and listen to the beach boys. **** grinds my gears.
 
SFC415 said:
Some of you must not have flown anywhere outside of your states in your lives, talking about it's inconsiderate to lean back. It might be pointless on a one hour flight from SF to LA but try not doing that on a 11 hour+ flight across the Pacific :lol: get that nonsense fake sophistication out of here.
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this :lol:

some of you dudes complain about everything, so i'm not surprised you want to act like princesses when EVERYONE is uncomfortable on the plane.

you know what would really grind my gears? having this mother ****** delay my flight to my destination over a reclined seat.
 
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^^ lol

nothing grinds my gears like flying. people become extra-annoying.

- people squeezing together / pushing up in a line. *****! that's not going to make the line move any faster. now back the **** up before you get smacked the **** up and give me my space.

- fat dude taking up both armrests plus some. seriously? you're taking up half my seat and your arm hairs are tickling mine.

- people riding those golf cart things to get around the terminals. *****! you're not handicapped. get the **** up and walk like you're supposed to. oh and now you're going to honk and get mad at everyone walking in the ******* terminal? you pieces of ****.
 
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