2015 NY Knicks offseason thread, Los Almighty appreciation thread

this dude porzingis or whatever his name is talkng about how the knicks are the best organization in the nba and how it would be his dream to play for them

c'mon son
 
The absolute best thing that Phil can/should be doing right now is hyping the **** out of his interest in Porzingis to all teams and the media. Real or fake.

This not only increases Porzingis' perceived value across the league (similar to Steph-Curry-gate :lol: ), but also makes it far more likely that interested teams (such as Orlando) will play into Sam Hinkie's hand and trade up to get him, likely leaving both Russell and Mudiay available for us at 4 in the process.

If a team like Orlando does not truly believe that the Knicks or Philly would actually draft Zinger, they would have no reason to trade up, knowing that he would be available for them at 5.

So this mutual Porzingis/Knicks talk right now is a good thing regardless of whether it is real or not.
 
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The absolute best thing that Phil can/should be doing right now is hyping up his interest in Porzingis to all teams and the media. Real or fake.

This not only increases Porzingis' perceived value across the league but also makes it far more likely that interested teams (such as Orlando) will play into Sam Hinkie's hand and trade up to get him, likely leaving both Russell and Mudiay available for us at 4 in the process. If a team like Orlando does not truly believe that the Knicks or Philly would actually draft Zinger, they would have no reason to trade up, knowing that he would be available for them at 5.

So this mutual Porzingis/Knicks talk right now is a good thing regardless of whether it is real or not.
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Agreed. The Porzingis talk is for deflecting but unfortunately with the Knicks, you have no way of knowing if it's actually deflecting or soon to be a reality. sweating bullets here on draft's eve.
 
i really hope Orlando trades up to #3, or even with us, to take Porzingis.
 
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THE GR8EST said:
The absolute best thing that Phil can/should be doing right now is hyping the **** out of his interest in Porzingis to all teams and the media. Real or fake.

This not only increases Porzingis' perceived value across the league (similar to Steph-Curry-gate :lol: ), but also makes it far more likely that interested teams (such as Orlando) will play into Sam Hinkie's hand and trade up to get him, likely leaving both Russell and Mudiay available for us at 4 in the process.

If a team like Orlando does not truly believe that the Knicks or Philly would actually draft Zinger, they would have no reason to trade up, knowing that he would be available for them at 5.

So this mutual Porzingis/Knicks talk right now is a good thing regardless of whether it is real or not.
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THIS...

Zinger is the only guy you could hype up to reel in a team to jump up to 3 or get LA to second guess their pick... No con's whatsoever come out of it, even if you value Zinger at 4, and he is your guy (if he goes before you it was nearly expected, if he drops then you get your guy all along).

Towns, Okafor, Russell - none of them fall to us unless people drink the Zinger juice
 
Wrote an article on rebuilding the Knicks for my site. Nothing new here honestly:

http://g42sports.com/rebuilding-the-new-york-knicks/
The New York Knicks need a lot of work done to become a competitive team, but it isn’t an insurmountable feat.

A lot of hubbub is boiling these days about the new NBA and the paradigm shift toward how a winning team should be built. But it really is just a hot take narrative that leaves out the most important reasons for success: a balanced roster that plays well on each end of the floor.

When people talk about how successful the Golden State Warriors were, it usually comes down to the concept of small ball, pace and space. Sure, those factors definitely made GS the best team in the NBA this year, but it’s an oversimplified concept that only tells part of the story.

While shooting and pushing the tempo definitely help an offense become explosive, this foolish ideology that a team can’t win with a low post scorer anymore, and can win solely by being a jump shooting team, is overblown arrogance. The Warriors played small ball and devastated the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yes, that is accurate. But lost in the shuffle of this narrative is how poorly constructed the Cavs roster was.

LeBron James played with a bunch of mediocre role players after he lost Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. While the Warriors definitely beat the Cavs, Cleveland’s lack of depth defeated themselves. Mimicking GS’s plan is something that’s definitely on the minds of many general mangers, but it isn’t likely to replicable for a few reasons.

No. 1, the Warriors have arguably the greatest shooter of all time on their roster in Steph Curry. No. 2 Klay Thompson is one of the league’s best shooters and is capable of creating his own shot. No. 3 GS had the deepest team in the NBA. No. 4 the Warriors were the best defensive team in the league.

While playing without a traditional center down the stretch made the Warriors champions, it isn’t the end-all-be-all cure to losing. In order to become a champion, a team needs to be the best offensive and defensive team in the league. Depth is imperative in order to tolerate the rigors of fatigue, and shooting is an obvious necessity since at the end of the day, the goal is to put the ball in the basket.

For the Knicks to become a title contender, NY will need to cultivate a winning atmosphere fueled by a balanced roster full of two-way players—just like the Warriors.

There are thousands of different ways to win in the NBA, but the one recurring factor is and always will be: balance. How did the San Antonio Spurs win all of their championships? By possessing a balanced roster that was capable of knocking down shots from the perimeter, capable of getting into the lane, capable of playing lock-down defense, and capable of throwing the ball into the post when a basket was needed.

The proper mold for a title contender isn’t exactly what the Warriors did in the Finals, it’s what the Spurs have done for years: create a balanced roster that defends and can play inside-out.

NY will have the No. 4 pick in the 2015 NBA Draft at their disposal. The roster, aside from Carmelo Anthony, is riddled with holes and is down-right awful. There’s some solid role players like Langston Galloway and potentially Tim Hardaway Jr., but there isn’t much else that makes one salivate.

The most glaring need for this franchise, which has been its biggest need since Mark Jackson first parted ways with the organization, is a competent point guard who can be trusted to run the show for the next 10 years. Although the triangle offense can circumvent the necessity for a prolific 1, it is definitely NY’s biggest hole that needs to be addressed and should be remedied through the draft.

NY is sure to miss out on the best big men this class has to offer: Karl-Anthony Towns and Jahlil Okafor. But there are two intriguing point guards capable of making a serious impact for the franchise: D’Angelo Russell and Emmanuel Mudiay.

Mudiay is the higher upside prospect, but a lot of attention is given to Russell. Russell is a solid shooter with good court vision but he has physical limitations. However, he is poised to be the third pick in this draft—considering how desperate the Philadelphia 76ers are for a 1. This leaves the Knicks with Mudiay who should become the second best prospect when everyone looks back at this draft in a few years.

Mudiay fills NY’s need for an explosive 1 who can create shots for himself, his teammates, and who eventually should become a premiere defender.

The first step for the Knicks to take in their rebuilding effort is making the smart and safe move of drafting their point guard for the future, addressing the rest of their needs through free agency and trades. Rumors swirl that the Knicks could trade this pick and acquire an asset, but what sense does it make taking back a contract that shrinks your cap space? NY needs to stay put, take Mudiay and continue the rebuilding process.

Although the Knicks possess enough cap space to sign two all stars, NY needs to be frugal when considering just how much better the 2016 free agenc class is. Instead of squandering their money on role players who will sit on the books for four years and make the Knicks a 45 win team, Phil Jackson needs to be crafty and wise with the way he spends James Dolan’s money.

With the 1 addressed through the draft, NY should set their eyes on a center and two wings. The obvious choice whose worth every penny is Marc Gasol, but it isn’t likely he leaves the Memphis Grizzlies. The more realistic candidates are Robin Lopez, Omer Asik, DeAndre Jordan, as well as Greg Monroe and LaMarcus Aldridge.

Monroe and LMA aren’t pure centers, but they are the best offensive players available who can play the 5. NY would be weak defensively and struggle to protect the rim with either man manning the 5 so the Knicks should be careful how they approach this situation. NY could sign one of them and keep Carmelo Anthony at the 3 instead of moving him to the 4 and look for an actual rim protector like Jordan, Asik or Lopez. Or the Knicks could sign one of those offensive or defensive bigs and pursue an athletic small forward who defends exceptionally well like Al-Farouq Aminu.

Aminu is 24 years old and he finally took the next step in his career this year with the Dallas Mavericks. He shouldn’t be too costly and he’d definitely compliment Anthony well if NY decided to play Melo at the 4.

NY could then set their sights on either Arron Afflalo, Wes Matthews or Danny Green. While Jimmy Butler is the best shooting guard available, he’s a restricted free agent and the Chicago Bulls would be foolish to let him slip away.

Matthews, pre-Achilles injury, was the second best option at the 2. He can shoot, he defends well and he can create his own shot. But he has plenty of injury concerns and a hefty price tag, looking to earn $15-million per year. Afflalo is an interesting candidate, but he’s not as good of a shooter as Green is. However, either man would be a huge upgrade over what the Knicks currently have.

In order for NY to fully rebuild its roster, Jose Calderon will need to be moved. Dumping his contract would not only free about an additional $7.4-million, it will get NY out of the bind that comes from paying him until 2017. If the Knicks can dump his contract, it might not be a bad idea to pursue three of the aforementioned players.

A lineup of Lopez, Monroe/LMA, Anthony, Green and Mudiay could definitely make a serious run in the Eastern Conference. It may not be a championship contender, but it’s definitely better than a 45-win team. Ideally the Knicks want to maintain some cap space for 2016, but that really should only be their concern when spending money on players like Rajon Rondo who won’t fill a need or make a significant difference.

The Knicks have some trade exceptions and could take back solid role players if need be so that possibility is in the cards as well. However, if Jackson pursues that path, those contracts need to be expiring so 2016 cap space is maintained.

NY needs a lot of work to overhaul its roster but the future is far from bleak. With cap space, the fourth pick overall and a superstar at their disposal, the Knicks could quickly become one of the top teams in the East.
 
Youll all come crawling back when he becomes the Latvian KG 
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What hurts the most about this situation is that Kristaps is the best fit for the Knicks and they might pass him over due to hype about Russell ... it sucks I know.
 
Thanks b. Yeah there's always gonna be different ideas on whose the best fit but the notion is the same. I just don't want Phil to do something stupid. Play it safe and build something special.
 
I was thinking about attending the draft tomorrow but something is telling me its not worth it. Prices jumped from last year for some reason

Might as well stay in the comfort of my own home while chugging alcohol
 
Good read JRS. You left out the part where the Knicks will look into bringing Greg Oden in for a workout to be our future rim protector. Just kidding.
 
NY Mavurs said:
I was thinking about attending the draft tomorrow but something is telling me its not worth it. Prices jumped from last year for some reason

Might as well stay in the comfort of my own home while chugging alcohol
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Cursing at the TV
 
NY Mavurs said:
I was thinking about attending the draft tomorrow but something is telling me its not worth it. Prices jumped from last year for some reason

Might as well stay in the comfort of my own home while chugging alcohol
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probably because we actually have our pick :lol:
 
JohnnyRedStorm said:
Wrote an article on rebuilding the Knicks for my site. Nothing new here honestly:

http://g42sports.com/rebuilding-the-new-york-knicks/
The New York Knicks need a lot of work done to become a competitive team, but it isn’t an insurmountable feat.

A lot of hubbub is boiling these days about the new NBA and the paradigm shift toward how a winning team should be built. But it really is just a hot take narrative that leaves out the most important reasons for success: a balanced roster that plays well on each end of the floor.

When people talk about how successful the Golden State Warriors were, it usually comes down to the concept of small ball, pace and space. Sure, those factors definitely made GS the best team in the NBA this year, but it’s an oversimplified concept that only tells part of the story.

While shooting and pushing the tempo definitely help an offense become explosive, this foolish ideology that a team can’t win with a low post scorer anymore, and can win solely by being a jump shooting team, is overblown arrogance. The Warriors played small ball and devastated the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yes, that is accurate. But lost in the shuffle of this narrative is how poorly constructed the Cavs roster was.

LeBron James played with a bunch of mediocre role players after he lost Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. While the Warriors definitely beat the Cavs, Cleveland’s lack of depth defeated themselves. Mimicking GS’s plan is something that’s definitely on the minds of many general mangers, but it isn’t likely to replicable for a few reasons.

No. 1, the Warriors have arguably the greatest shooter of all time on their roster in Steph Curry. No. 2 Klay Thompson is one of the league’s best shooters and is capable of creating his own shot. No. 3 GS had the deepest team in the NBA. No. 4 the Warriors were the best defensive team in the league.

While playing without a traditional center down the stretch made the Warriors champions, it isn’t the end-all-be-all cure to losing. In order to become a champion, a team needs to be the best offensive and defensive team in the league. Depth is imperative in order to tolerate the rigors of fatigue, and shooting is an obvious necessity since at the end of the day, the goal is to put the ball in the basket.

For the Knicks to become a title contender, NY will need to cultivate a winning atmosphere fueled by a balanced roster full of two-way players—just like the Warriors.

There are thousands of different ways to win in the NBA, but the one recurring factor is and always will be: balance. How did the San Antonio Spurs win all of their championships? By possessing a balanced roster that was capable of knocking down shots from the perimeter, capable of getting into the lane, capable of playing lock-down defense, and capable of throwing the ball into the post when a basket was needed.

The proper mold for a title contender isn’t exactly what the Warriors did in the Finals, it’s what the Spurs have done for years: create a balanced roster that defends and can play inside-out.

NY will have the No. 4 pick in the 2015 NBA Draft at their disposal. The roster, aside from Carmelo Anthony, is riddled with holes and is down-right awful. There’s some solid role players like Langston Galloway and potentially Tim Hardaway Jr., but there isn’t much else that makes one salivate.

The most glaring need for this franchise, which has been its biggest need since Mark Jackson first parted ways with the organization, is a competent point guard who can be trusted to run the show for the next 10 years. Although the triangle offense can circumvent the necessity for a prolific 1, it is definitely NY’s biggest hole that needs to be addressed and should be remedied through the draft.

NY is sure to miss out on the best big men this class has to offer: Karl-Anthony Towns and Jahlil Okafor. But there are two intriguing point guards capable of making a serious impact for the franchise: D’Angelo Russell and Emmanuel Mudiay.

Mudiay is the higher upside prospect, but a lot of attention is given to Russell. Russell is a solid shooter with good court vision but he has physical limitations. However, he is poised to be the third pick in this draft—considering how desperate the Philadelphia 76ers are for a 1. This leaves the Knicks with Mudiay who should become the second best prospect when everyone looks back at this draft in a few years.

Mudiay fills NY’s need for an explosive 1 who can create shots for himself, his teammates, and who eventually should become a premiere defender.

The first step for the Knicks to take in their rebuilding effort is making the smart and safe move of drafting their point guard for the future, addressing the rest of their needs through free agency and trades. Rumors swirl that the Knicks could trade this pick and acquire an asset, but what sense does it make taking back a contract that shrinks your cap space? NY needs to stay put, take Mudiay and continue the rebuilding process.

Although the Knicks possess enough cap space to sign two all stars, NY needs to be frugal when considering just how much better the 2016 free agenc class is. Instead of squandering their money on role players who will sit on the books for four years and make the Knicks a 45 win team, Phil Jackson needs to be crafty and wise with the way he spends James Dolan’s money.

With the 1 addressed through the draft, NY should set their eyes on a center and two wings. The obvious choice whose worth every penny is Marc Gasol, but it isn’t likely he leaves the Memphis Grizzlies. The more realistic candidates are Robin Lopez, Omer Asik, DeAndre Jordan, as well as Greg Monroe and LaMarcus Aldridge.

Monroe and LMA aren’t pure centers, but they are the best offensive players available who can play the 5. NY would be weak defensively and struggle to protect the rim with either man manning the 5 so the Knicks should be careful how they approach this situation. NY could sign one of them and keep Carmelo Anthony at the 3 instead of moving him to the 4 and look for an actual rim protector like Jordan, Asik or Lopez. Or the Knicks could sign one of those offensive or defensive bigs and pursue an athletic small forward who defends exceptionally well like Al-Farouq Aminu.

Aminu is 24 years old and he finally took the next step in his career this year with the Dallas Mavericks. He shouldn’t be too costly and he’d definitely compliment Anthony well if NY decided to play Melo at the 4.

NY could then set their sights on either Arron Afflalo, Wes Matthews or Danny Green. While Jimmy Butler is the best shooting guard available, he’s a restricted free agent and the Chicago Bulls would be foolish to let him slip away.

Matthews, pre-Achilles injury, was the second best option at the 2. He can shoot, he defends well and he can create his own shot. But he has plenty of injury concerns and a hefty price tag, looking to earn $15-million per year. Afflalo is an interesting candidate, but he’s not as good of a shooter as Green is. However, either man would be a huge upgrade over what the Knicks currently have.

In order for NY to fully rebuild its roster, Jose Calderon will need to be moved. Dumping his contract would not only free about an additional $7.4-million, it will get NY out of the bind that comes from paying him until 2017. If the Knicks can dump his contract, it might not be a bad idea to pursue three of the aforementioned players.

A lineup of Lopez, Monroe/LMA, Anthony, Green and Mudiay could definitely make a serious run in the Eastern Conference. It may not be a championship contender, but it’s definitely better than a 45-win team. Ideally the Knicks want to maintain some cap space for 2016, but that really should only be their concern when spending money on players like Rajon Rondo who won’t fill a need or make a significant difference.

The Knicks have some trade exceptions and could take back solid role players if need be so that possibility is in the cards as well. However, if Jackson pursues that path, those contracts need to be expiring so 2016 cap space is maintained.

NY needs a lot of work to overhaul its roster but the future is far from bleak. With cap space, the fourth pick overall and a superstar at their disposal, the Knicks could quickly become one of the top teams in the East.
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I want to write a counter-article about how the Knicks should be rebuilt, a complete 180 degree vision Lol.

Hire me.

I don't have the time but you're making me want to :lol:
 
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