Fragment Design x Retro 1 High OG - Dec 27, 2014

Curious to know the significance. He's a designer... Not much significance outside of Japan besides having worked with Nike before. Your steed seems mighty elevated

his significance, at least for me is basically introducing hip-hop to japan. as a dj, it's been fun and really exciting to see japan go through a musical transition and produce some really great tunes.
 
Anybody with royals who misses out on these... You can sleep at night.

98 % of the people who cop don't even know what fragment is... Which is pretty laughable.
i dont .. dont really care who it is what they do and why you or anyone else likes them, their business or products ...

Shoe just looks nice to me and i go after what i like.


Thats all that matters in the end .. u dont have to know to buy
 
Saw a pre-order on the bay $450, dude had 500 + all positive FB, says he's getting em directly from Nike lab, should I take the chance?

I went ahead and did an eBay pre order for these from somebody on there that I've gotten from before.(money back if he doesn't cop, x3 money back on authenticity) My point being that I paid nowhere near that much.

If you want them that bad then I say by all means go ahead and get them locked up sooner than later. I think these will sell out REAL quick and be a pretty hard cop. Because if you don't pull the trigger on these there is more than likely somebody going to and take your spot
 
his significance, at least for me is basically introducing hip-hop to japan. as a dj, it's been fun and really exciting to see japan go through a musical transition and produce some really great tunes.

He can be singlehandedly credited for that IMO. However, how not knowing that info somehow has any relevance to the state of shoes or the shoe game is beyond me; unless you are Japanese you can't really hate on people wanting these.
 
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his significance, at least for me is basically introducing hip-hop to japan. as a dj, it's been fun and really exciting to see JAPAN go through a musical transition and produce some really great tunes.
If he introduced Hip Hop to JAPAN.. he must have quit in the 90's

I don't when the last time you went to Japan but their music Scene is stuck on the 90's

all they bumb is West Coast Gangsta Rap, and anything made by J Dilla

go to a club and play  French Montana, Jeezy, Migos, TI  meek mill or any new music...... THEY WILL ALL JUST STARE at you 
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If he introduced Hip Hop to JAPAN.. he must have quit in the 90's

I don't when the last time you went to Japan but their music Scene is stuck on the 90's

all they bumb is West Coast Gangsta Rap, and anything made by J Dilla


go to a club and play  French Montana, Jeezy, Migos, TI  meek mill or any new music...... THEY WILL ALL JUST STARE at you :nerd:

yeah, because it's too aggressive and not relatable in any way to their culture. all the jazz-hop and violin/piano based hip-hop beats are great imo. my crew had an album go #1 out there and it's been a fun ride so far.

but i'm stuck in the 90's too, so it works out great for me.

He can be singlehandedly credited for that IMO. However, how not knowing that info somehow has any relevance to the state of shoes or the shoe game is beyond me; unless you are Japanese you can't really hate on people wanting these.

absolutely! not knowing who he or fragment is is a non-issue. people can buy what they like, history of a manufactured product means absolutely nothing unless you're an enthusiast. in reality, it doesn't matter.
 
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Curious to know the significance. He's a designer... Not much significance outside of Japan besides having worked with Nike before. Your steed seems mighty elevated
He been designing for nike since 2004. 1/3 of HTM. Influenced most streetwear designers in japan including wtaps, mastermind, and bape. DJ and producer. Introduced Fenom line for Levis denim. Just collaborated on Beats by Dre collection. I'm sure i forgot countless other projects but you get my point.
 
He been designing for nike since 2004. 1/3 of HTM. Influenced most streetwear designers in japan including wtaps, mastermind, and bape. DJ and producer. Introduced Fenom line for Levis denim. Just collaborated on Beats by Dre collection. I'm sure i forgot countless other projects but you get my point.

those metallic solos look NICE too. just can't get myself to spend sneaker type money on cans though.
 
yeah, because it's too aggressive and not relatable in any way to their culture. all the jazz-hop and violin/piano based hip-hop beats are great imo. my crew had an album go #1 out there and it's been a fun ride so far.
 
MORE AGGRESSIVE THEN West Coast Gangsta RAP

i don't think so

What's the Name of your group that had a #1 album out there?

let's get s listen?
 
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Curious to know the significance. He's a designer... Not much significance outside of Japan besides having worked with Nike before. Your steed seems mighty elevated

If you are into streetwear he has had much of a significance. Def in the top 15 streetwear brands. He doesnt have his own line, he pretty much collabs with others.

I think this logo might jog some memories. It is prolly more recognizable than the current one

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yeah, because it's too aggressive and not relatable in any way to their culture. all the jazz-hop and violin/piano based hip-hop beats are great imo. my crew had an album go #1 out there and it's been a fun ride so far.

but i'm stuck in the 90's too, so it works out great for me.
absolutely! not knowing who he or fragment is is a non-issue. people can buy what they like, history of a manufactured product means absolutely nothing unless you're an enthusiast. in reality, it doesn't matter.

How is anything being played today more aggressive than 90s rap? These guys are tame compared to gangsta rap from either coast in the 90s.

EDIT: NVM you cleared that up but I still disagree that todays beats are harder.

If he introduced Hip Hop to JAPAN.. he must have quit in the 90's

I don't when the last time you went to Japan but their music Scene is stuck on the 90's

all they bumb is West Coast Gangsta Rap, and anything made by J Dilla


go to a club and play  French Montana, Jeezy, Migos, TI  meek mill or any new music...... THEY WILL ALL JUST STARE at you :nerd:

Bruh I read an article about how their is a nich Japanese community that wants to be black. srs

I'll give them a pass for this borderline offensive **** because the country is so xenophobic they know little about any culture that aint there own.

http://www.vice.com/read/b-style-japan-desir-van-den-berg-photos

Everybody wanna be black but don't nobody wanna be black :smokin

his significance, at least for me is basically introducing hip-hop to japan. as a dj, it's been fun and really exciting to see japan go through a musical transition and produce some really great tunes.

Can he be given credit for all of that? I'd prolly put Nigo ahead of him. And Im sure Nujabes deserves credit as well.
 
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Bruh I read an article about how their is a nich Japanese community that wants to be black. srs

I'll give them a pass for this borderline offensive **** because the country is so xenophobic they know little about any culture that aint there own.

http://www.vice.com/read/b-style-japan-desir-van-den-berg-photos

Everybody wanna be black but don't nobody wanna be black :smokin
Can he be given credit for all of that? I'd prolly put Nigo ahead of him.

maybe aggressive isn't the right word. plain and simple...the japanese don't enjoy synths. just sounds like noise to them. when you create an album for a japanese audience, the a&r will constantly say it needs more piano or violin.

Nigo's very name, number two, is homage to Hiroshi as it's pretty well known that he was hugely influenced by him. Nigo's quoted saying that he based the Bape business model off of what Hiroshi was doing at the time.
 
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It aint uncommon for the successor to become more popular than the OG. Imo the second generation rappers are far more important than the first even tho second generation pay homage to the first all the time. Basically Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, and all of them, to me, are far more important than Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Rakim, and those guys (even tho I love these guys too)

I get what you mean tho. Basically japanese prefer the TR-808 sound compared to todays synthesized Logic Pro/Pro Tools feel.

What about Nujabes tho? Where would he stand in your list (out of curiosity)
 
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maybe aggressive isn't the right word. plain and simple...the japanese don't enjoy synths. just sounds like noise to them. when you create an album for a japanese audience, the a&r will constantly say it needs more piano or violin.

Nigo's very name, number two, is homage to Hiroshi as it's pretty well known that he was hugely influenced by him. Nigo's quoted saying that he based the Bape business model off of what Hiroshi was doing at the time.

Dope. People actually know about stuff on here.

Respect.
 
nah never heard of fragment or seen that lightning bolt logo before these

oh well


nice kicks
 
maybe aggressive isn't the right word. plain and simple...the japanese don't enjoy synths. j
DUDE the whole West coast Sound is made off Synths

MOOGS and Juno Keyboards etc etc etc

You don't what your talking about...

Go back to the studio and do some studying 

and as for this dude who made the Frags brand - I DOUBT anyone care if it has the bolt or not

THE main thing with these 1's is the MOLD for it being HIGH Top

and

the COLORWAY

and their Limited..

I bet the Leather Quality is no better then any other AJ1

you guys are putting this shoe on a Pedestal 
 
We need more photos. I really just want to see them in person. Anyone in the bay area have a pair I can take a peek at?
 
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