**Official Kendrick Lamar Thread 4th Studio Album ''DAMN.''Out Now**

[awwsome]

Future mixtape is amazing too, all about context.

 

[currensy]

I'm indian, am I allowed to like the album?

You not brown enough playa, be gone.

I'm not srs.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Guess I'll put my two cents in, this whole the album was intended for black people argument is pointless. Kendrick wrote this album from a black perspective with black narratives on it and a historically black influence. However to say this album was written for black people is stupid, no it wasn't. It might be the most relatable to black people, but to say it was solely intended for black people to digest is just incorrect. Thats like saying Mandela wanted equality for only black people

If the narrative, perspective, art surrounding the project are all HEAVILY focused on the imagery of black men in the ghettos of america.... how do you conclude that he didn't make this album with the intention of really speaking directly too black men in the ghettos of America?

And once again nobody is stating that this was made SOLELY for black people, Of course Kendrick wants his art to reach all the masses and be enjoyed by whoever, but the music on here the lyrics on here has a high concentration and vibrations that are going to resonate with a particular group more than any other. There are certain aspects of this album that you aren't going to fully appreciate or relate with if you didn't grow up as a black person in a ghetto of America it's that simple.

It like me going to see a mob flick, yes i may enjoy it, yes i can learn from it, but it's not going to have the same impact on me or be as relative to me as say a kid who grew up around that kind of action.

Hell i enjoy luxury brands from time to time, I can go into any of these stores and certainly by a piece i like, but just because black men like A Gucci design doesn't mean i'm suddenly gonna say Gucci isn't a label produced, marketed, and created for a very specific crowd despite being enjoyed by people of all colors, sizes & Social statuses.

 

[letsgetit22]

I usually mess with Future but I listened to his mixtape and immediately trashed it. K.Dot got my musical taste in one lane right now

That's the thing, I mess with future too. Haha!
I thought maybe I'm just not in that mindset right now. So I'll listen again in a week or so. But as of right now, bout to turn "momma" up and vibe'out for the night.

 

[trill nimley]

White people are used to telling other people things aren't for them, be it literally or figuratively. The idea of someone telling them something isnt for them will NEVER sit well.

Did any of you listen to the 2Pac interview at the end. The man is talking about Nat Turner. Saying the next big American riot will be more like 1831 than 1992. Maybe you've grown to not take the words of blacks serious, but I think Kendrick has made his intended audience for the album about as CLEAR as day from the cover to the ENTIRE 78 min journey.

Everything isn't for EVERYbody. No ones saying white people can't or shouldn't listen to it. That's silly. And it ain't like their gonna truly respect what a brotha says unless your scoring touchdowns or baskets for their fav team. They should listen to it. More than blacks cause in 2015 white people are still pretty clueless of how blacks feel about certain injustices and institutions of racism in this country.

But America for the better part of 400 years has cared very little about the general concerns of the black population. And this new generation of rap fans is no different. They're entertained by the music and imagery but more times than not have no real investment or obligation to the communities hip hop serves as a voice too.

I know ICP isn't makin albums for black dudes in Brooklyn. Not saying one can't enjoy that nonsense but we are NOT their target audience. The same way a dead prez record isn't intended for the Starbucks crowd.

Is that notion TRULY that hard to grasp?

This is MORE than music to OUR people. This is a survival Manuel for the black diaspora.

This is OUR ancestors speaking to us through song as they've always done.

 

[slimk4]

You or Candlestick doing the chop?

we both working on it together

 

[slimk4]

wow at this thread lol...

i agree with majority of the points tho...

back to the topic, anyone notice how the track of if these walls can talk serve as a double entendre?

first listen, the track seemed sexual...which it is...

but then after listening later, i noticed it was representing when Kendrick as the Caterpillar was forming his cocoon after consuming everything around him...

Then i found this..

Pupal mating[edit]

In a few taxa of the Lepidoptera, especially Heliconius, pupal mating is an extreme form of reproductive strategy where adult males mate with female pupa about to emerge or with the newly moulted female; this is accompanied by other actions such as capping of the reproductive system of the female with the sphragis, denying access to other males, or by exuding an anti-aphrodisiac pheromone

pupa = caccoon...

i love this album so far...sheesh

 

[just nikes]

Like how posts disappeared from a few pages back. Pretty sure I got told to go hang out with my pedophile friend or something like that haha

Still going to be in here talking about Kendrick and how I like the album.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Like how posts disappeared from a few pages back. Pretty sure I got told to go hang out with my pedophile friend or something like that haha

Still going to be in here talking about Kendrick and how I like the album.

That's good, there's a lot of foolishness in the last few pages,

But being as we're both pedo's, maybe we can hangout this summer when I visit NY,

 

[trynafeelmink]

Here's a simple scenario to float around... Kendrick has a HUGE fanbase that consist of all kinds of people....... he's def gonna do a tour for this album and crowds will be mixed with all races correct.... Everyone is jamming and this comes on



How many NON BLACK people are going to sit at that concert and scream the lyrics to this comfortably like they did with GKMC ?

Since people claim this doesnt have a message focused directly towards black people, EVERYONE at that concert should feel comfortable singing along with those lyrics and loving them....

I highly doubt any of this will be going on During A performance of Blacker The Berry.... That's All i'm saying lmaooo
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[elpablo21]

Here's a simple scenario to float around... Kendrick has a HUGE fanbase that consist of all kinds of people....... he's def gonna do a tour for this album and crowds will be mixed with all races correct.... Everyone is jamming and this comes on



How many NON BLACK people are going to sit at that concert and scream the lyrics to this comfortably like they did with GKMC ?

Since people claim this doesnt have a message focused directly towards black people, EVERYONE at that concert should feel comfortable singing along with those lyrics and loving them....

I highly doubt any of this will be going on During A performance of Blacker The Berry.... That's All i'm saying lmaooo
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You're underestimating the boldness of people lol

nonetheless I agree with the initial point that this is a directed message towards the black community

I could see someone liking a song like complexion and understand it..empathizing with it.

for myself, that **** hits home to me on another level personally

 

[elpablo21]

wow at this thread lol...

i agree with majority of the points tho...

back to the topic, anyone notice how the track of if these walls can talk serve as a double entendre?

first listen, the track seemed sexual...which it is...

but then after listening later, i noticed it was representing when Kendrick as the Caterpillar was forming his cocoon after consuming everything around him...

Then i found this..

Pupal mating[edit]

In a few taxa of the Lepidoptera, especially Heliconius, pupal mating is an extreme form of reproductive strategy where adult males mate with female pupa about to emerge or with the newly moulted female; this is accompanied by other actions such as capping of the reproductive system of the female with the sphragis, denying access to other males, or by exuding an anti-aphrodisiac pheromone

pupa = caccoon...

i love this album so far...sheesh

Never thought of that really, dope theory

Someone mentioned earlier maybe parts of the 2nd verse was talking about Compton...thought that fit in some as well

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Here's a simple scenario to float around... Kendrick has a HUGE fanbase that consist of all kinds of people....... he's def gonna do a tour for this album and crowds will be mixed with all races correct.... Everyone is jamming and this comes on



How many NON BLACK people are going to sit at that concert and scream the lyrics to this comfortably like they did with GKMC ?

Since people claim this doesnt have a message focused directly towards black people, EVERYONE at that concert should feel comfortable singing along with those lyrics and loving them....

I highly doubt any of this will be going on During A performance of Blacker The Berry.... That's All i'm saying lmaooo
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Na, man, we'll be jamming just like everybody else.

Just because someone isn't the same color as you doesn't mean that they're unable to sympathize w/ you or your situation.

Are you aware of how many white people listen to Dead Prez?

 

[smedroc]

Na, man, we'll be jamming just like everybody else.

Just because someone isn't the same color as you doesn't mean that they're unable to sympathize w/ you or your situation.

Are you aware of how many white people listen to Dead Prez?

I'm saying

Blue eyed devils will get a pass.

If their man trying to go word for word aswel though...

 

[slimk4]

Never thought of that really, dope theory

Someone mentioned earlier maybe parts of the 2nd verse was talking about Compton...thought that fit in some as well

i noticed that after i played it back once again...

i see it as him talking about compton while at the same time the cocoon is rising around him

 

[slimk4]

These walls can talk

opening verse = woman inticed by kendrick the rapper

1st & 2nd rapping verse = kendrick as the cattapillar consuming everything around him still...this time the woman...

sex..

caccoon starts forming (during the break down)

3nd verse (with the echo)

a verse full of resentment ...the echo (thoughts inside of head?)

leads to him alone in the hotel room trapped in his thoughts, leading to "u"

 

[ishnaga]

It saddens me that PAC isn't around to enjoy this work of art..
I'm so glad I picked this joint up.
The brothers n sisters that know our history will really appreciate this body of work more than most.
More listens are needed to fully appreciate it's message so it's gonna stay in my CD player for a few weeks..I can see a few tracks getting skipped by "culture vultures" oh with out a doubt !!
but what does it matter cause statements like You hate me don't you?
You hate my people, your plan is to terminate my culture
You're ******' evil I want you to recognize that I'm a proud monkey
You vandalize my perception but can't take style from me
And this is more than confession
I mean I might press the button just so you know my discretion
I'm guardin' my feelins, I know that you feel it
Stuff like that sends it's own msg. Maybe avoiding tracks with such blunt truth will finally force those blue eyes to look in that mirror and spark some sort of change within.
Shrug

 

[slimk4]

Obama said whut it do...= shootin with the 44

 

[harlemtothebronx]

But why do we need to tell white folks that this music isn't for them? What purpose does that serve other than ostricizing and making those people who enjoy the album feel unwelcome. This is an album that everyone needs to hear.

Hell, maybe some white folks who don't really understand need to hear this more than those folks that it was 'made for' who deal with and know this struggle everyday.

Point is, there is a lot of learning that we can ALL take from this music. We all have different perspectives, but the message is a good one for EVERYONE to hear.

Nobody is disputing that the album can or should be listened to by everybody, we are simply stating that this was made for BLACK people. the message the energy the stories are all much more impactful for the average black man then the average white man it's that simple. Hopefully some white people hear this album and begin to study the problems talked about on a deeper note. However this attitude that black people have nowadays has got to stop. We calmly take the blame and claim all the negatice parts of the culture.

We don't fight when the media talks about gang violence as if it's only a black thing, poverty as if it's only a black thing, Bad parenting as if it's only a black thing..... yet the second we want to take our rightful claim and say Hiphop is a black form of music... suddenly guys come out the woodwork and claim that we're excluding other people and it's an unfair statement.

Hiphop culture is available for everybody to enjoy and listen too, however EVERYTHING about this culture derived from black/latino culture, the messages are through the scope of black youth, the neighborhoods talked about are black, the specific struggles outlined are heavily endured by black people. So i'm sorry if a few people may have a problem feeling a bit excluded out of rap.

Black people feel excluded too, in the justice system, in the financial system, on a social scale etc etc. These literally weren't constructed with viewing black people as human and yet, 50 years later America still seems to exclude us and clearly refuses to let go of the notion that "America" is a country for Whites.

I still don't get the point of coming in here and spewing it the way Nay did. It was unnecessary. Everything you just said it well documented on the album. Its obvious what the perspective is and who he's talking to. I had an issue with jumping in the thread and literally saying 'this is ours, not yours.'

I'm all for it when its discussed in a mature manner...the issue is that it wasn't.

I'm not disputing anything you have to say here...there's a huge difference between the way you expressed your opinion without prejudice and stereotyping whatever white people are listening to the album and whatever Nay did when he leg dropped the thread from the top rope which broke any mature conversation that could have arose if it were presented in a way that wasn't arguably immature and offensive.

Like I said though, the music speaks for itself. I don't see the purpose of drawing out lines amongst ourselves in this thread.

I'm not white, if that matters.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

We don't fight when the media talks about gang violence as if it's only a black thing, poverty as if it's only a black thing, Bad parenting as if it's only a black thing..... yet the second we want to take our rightful claim and say Hiphop is a black form of music... suddenly guys come out the woodwork and claim that we're excluding other people and it's an unfair statement.

Hiphop culture is available for everybody to enjoy and listen too, however EVERYTHING about this culture derived from black/latino culture, the messages are through the scope of black youth, the neighborhoods talked about are black, the specific struggles outlined are heavily endured by black people. So i'm sorry if a few people may have a problem feeling a bit excluded out of rap.

Black people feel excluded too, in the justice system, in the financial system, on a social scale etc etc. These literally weren't constructed with viewing black people as human and yet, 50 years later America still seems to exclude us and clearly refuses to let go of the notion that "America" is a country for Whites.

That's real talk. And it's exactly what the term culture vulture is meant to address. Black and Latin folks who came from nothing built this music that took over the world and now everybody has their hand in the pot and feels they should have some sort of claim to it, when alot of those same people couldn't give a damn about the black and latin folks they see all around them day to day. It's disgusting. The fact that black people are still co-signing Iggy Azalea's racist *** and letting her capitalize off the music just blows my mind :x.

I don't like the blanket statement of labeling any white person a culture vulture, but like somebody else mentioned earlier, those same SAE pieces of **** who were singing about hanging ******* were probably partying to music made by said ******* later that night. And there are heads of record labels like that. And A&Rs, and managers, and even artists (Iggy). That incongruity doesn't sit well with me at all. It shouldn't sit well with any black person in this country, especially given the racial climate we're in right now. And really, regardless of your race, if you're truly not a culture vulture, it shouldn't sit well with you either.

On one hand, I don't like the idea of being so divisive as to say the album ain't for white people, I don't really agree with that, and it could really turn off somebody who truly has a respect for the music and it's creators. But on the other hand, I'm really ******* tired of the ********. I'm tired of seeing people that don't give a **** about black people profit off black people, or contribute to the culture in any way shape or form really. It's tired man, it really is.

I agree...i just don't think thats an issue we need to take up with the white people of Niketalk, though.

 

[law3001]

Nimely out here snitching

 

[ihust1e]

Im far from a fan of kendrick.

But this album will be purchased today. WIll prob cop gkmc too if the deluxe is on sale

The two step is too mean on this to not support.

Quality

 

[ScroogeMcBuckz]

I'm pretty sure a lot more dudes hit the snitch button on nay. This forum went soft awhile ago.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

if this guy was in here spewing and then hitting that report button.

Is there a way to tell if someone has been doing it or something?

 

[law3001]

I was warned specifically for a comment said to Nay. Now maybe he didn't ask for the order of protection, but something seems fishy