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Don't get the appeal at all
EDM heads, please explain the appeal to me... Vol. I Just Don't Get It
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This right here. Deep house parties are amazing.
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in the dance music/electronic music world, "EDM" is kinda like...what nicki minaj or lil wayne is to the hip hop world or what
justin bieber is to the pop world.
and like in every genre, theres the good sht, and theres the cheesy commercial sht thats pretty much a shell, a caricature if you will,
of the good sht.
but theres deep house and nowadays theres "deep" house.
a lot of these new so called deep house tracks,
i wouldnt even consider deep house in the traditional sense.
as a matter of fact, i usually dont reallly use the term deep house. i just call it house.
a track can have a deep sound, a tech-y sound, a soulful sound, a jazzy sound, etc etc
but i do find myself having to use the term deep house just to distinguish it from the cheesy "house" music on the EDM side of things.
even with something like dubstep, theres the good sht (think digital mystikz), and theres the bastardized version of it (think skrillex)
supposedly the same genre, but vastly different sounds.
not that theres anything wrong wit any of them. they all have their place.
i just prefer a certain sound, quality, substance, vibe, and even aesthetic in my music.
different strokes for different folks.
i prefer proper house and techno when it comes to dance music.
this is house to me. grooving, vibin, and sweating it out.
and this is techno to me. losing my mind at 5 am. in a dark warehouse.
justin bieber is to the pop world.
and like in every genre, theres the good sht, and theres the cheesy commercial sht thats pretty much a shell, a caricature if you will,
of the good sht.
but theres deep house and nowadays theres "deep" house.
a lot of these new so called deep house tracks,
i wouldnt even consider deep house in the traditional sense.
as a matter of fact, i usually dont reallly use the term deep house. i just call it house.
a track can have a deep sound, a tech-y sound, a soulful sound, a jazzy sound, etc etc
but i do find myself having to use the term deep house just to distinguish it from the cheesy "house" music on the EDM side of things.
even with something like dubstep, theres the good sht (think digital mystikz), and theres the bastardized version of it (think skrillex)
supposedly the same genre, but vastly different sounds.
not that theres anything wrong wit any of them. they all have their place.
i just prefer a certain sound, quality, substance, vibe, and even aesthetic in my music.
different strokes for different folks.
i prefer proper house and techno when it comes to dance music.
this is house to me. grooving, vibin, and sweating it out.
and this is techno to me. losing my mind at 5 am. in a dark warehouse.
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this.
I dislike most "headliners", pop techno is just music for pretty girls to drop pills to.
deep house, drum n bass is what I enjoy.
and please don't say it's "too repetitive" when hip hop started with loops.
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This is probably the only answer that will satisfy OP. And I agree with most of this (especially the part about these guys being producers, first and foremost), except the term "EDM". Sure, it's a catch-all blanket term, but it's a catch-all term that's been around for a LONG time. Now that electronic music got big, and the terms "EDM" has become more prevalent, you see a lot more *****ing about the term. Trust me, there was plenty of *****ing 10+ years ago among the electronic music community. Now it's just magnified, especially from people who don't want their precious sub-genre associated with anything that's popular.
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The term I remember being used was Electronica. Or Electronic Music. Not the catchy 3 letter acronym.
Trust me, as someone who has been connected to the genre for a bit now, no one was rocking those 3 letters even 7 years ago.
It's a corporate term really. No one used it until the genre as a whole started making major mainstream inroads.
That started in 2007 really when David Guetta "Love Is Gone" broke at Pop Radio and cracked the Pop charts.
The term happened at least after that.
Trust me, as someone who has been connected to the genre for a bit now, no one was rocking those 3 letters even 7 years ago.
It's a corporate term really. No one used it until the genre as a whole started making major mainstream inroads.
That started in 2007 really when David Guetta "Love Is Gone" broke at Pop Radio and cracked the Pop charts.
The term happened at least after that.
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the term elecronic dance music was around even back then, but no one said "EDM" .
mostly just referred to it as dance music, or just by their genres
the acronym just took on a life of its own, and has come to refer to the commercial side of dance music.
a north american phenomenon it seems to me.
and yea its definitely a corporate term.
basically, "EDM" is to the 2010s, what "electronica" was to the mid 90s-early 00s. just massively more popular.
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Right. It was, and still is really, "Dance Music".
With Electronica representing the more Alternative side of things. Like Prodigy, Crystal Method, etc.
I don't remember people saying Electronic Dance Music to reference the genre. Though I'm sure they did.
And certainly the acronym wasn't used. I think you're right about it hitting 2010 or shortly thereafter.
With Electronica representing the more Alternative side of things. Like Prodigy, Crystal Method, etc.
I don't remember people saying Electronic Dance Music to reference the genre. Though I'm sure they did.
And certainly the acronym wasn't used. I think you're right about it hitting 2010 or shortly thereafter.
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the funny thing is techno and house, the backbones of dance music, were created by black people
and are definitely filled with soul. (soulful house or garage anyone?)
house sprang from the gay black/latino underground club culture in chicago/nyc after disco burned out in the mainstream.
techno was created by a group of black guys in detroit as their answer to house music which they
encountered due to their proximity to chicago.
this EDM sht? yea that definitely is some souless sht for dem bros. lol.
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Funny. I was having a convo today about how Dance music was far more intertwined with urban music back in the day.
How cats around the way were ******* with Black Box, Inner City etc., which led to the "Hip House" phase with Twin Hype, King Sun, and moreso Doug Lazy.
EPMD, Big Daddy Kane. Mad MCs had albums with a house record on it.
How cats around the way were ******* with Black Box, Inner City etc., which led to the "Hip House" phase with Twin Hype, King Sun, and moreso Doug Lazy.
EPMD, Big Daddy Kane. Mad MCs had albums with a house record on it.
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I def know about house but that had an actual rhythm this edm stuff is just sounds
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What is the purpose of this thread?
"I don't like it but other people do, why do you guys like it when I think it's bad?"
My bad, I was high when I made it
I just wanted NT's input.
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The acronym EDM has been used (and criticized) for many years. Trust me. Unfortunately, there's no way I can convince you, so we probably shouldn't have this discussion.
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EDM term is definitely new, no-one was talking about "going to an EDM gig" back in the '80s or '90s lol.
But yeah, most of these labels that get slapped on are pretty stupid...
It's ALL rock n' roll to me
But yeah, most of these labels that get slapped on are pretty stupid...
It's ALL rock n' roll to me
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Not a fan at all
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I went to a "white" party for the first time a few weeks ago and they played mostly EDM and it got old QUICK. Same formula: Ambient Intro or a plucky melody, then a long buildup, some claps, and then the drop. First couple times it was cool but it was annoying that EVERY SONG did the same thing.
It also made me realize how outsiders look at mainstream rap as being repetitive and rightfully so. The trap wave that Lex kinda started w/ BMF (yes I know Shawty Redd and Zay and Toomp and Drumma exist, but I'm talking the wave that's currently happening where literally Lex's drums and programming are all you hear on the radio and in "trapstep"; dudes like Flosstradumus etc.), EDM people took and beefed it up on the production side with more elaborate buildups and intros and breakdowns. Rap's production trend right now is the same as EDM's (Ambient/Plucky Melody Intro, FX Sweeps, Big Drops), except we dumb it down time and production wise to make it more accessible to radio.
I guess it fits tho, because white people are very energized when they party and like to jump around, whereas urban parties just kinda two step and chill if a female isn't dancing on you (unless a crazy record that gets everyone hype comes on).
I'm not really a fan of the "brostep"/"trapstep" I mentioned above, but I do like some stuff that is technically classified as EDM, like Cashmere Cat, Hudson Mohawke, TNGHT, Lunice etc. I like the dudes that take EDM techniques and drums and what-have-you, and do different and diverse stuff with it.
It also made me realize how outsiders look at mainstream rap as being repetitive and rightfully so. The trap wave that Lex kinda started w/ BMF (yes I know Shawty Redd and Zay and Toomp and Drumma exist, but I'm talking the wave that's currently happening where literally Lex's drums and programming are all you hear on the radio and in "trapstep"; dudes like Flosstradumus etc.), EDM people took and beefed it up on the production side with more elaborate buildups and intros and breakdowns. Rap's production trend right now is the same as EDM's (Ambient/Plucky Melody Intro, FX Sweeps, Big Drops), except we dumb it down time and production wise to make it more accessible to radio.
I guess it fits tho, because white people are very energized when they party and like to jump around, whereas urban parties just kinda two step and chill if a female isn't dancing on you (unless a crazy record that gets everyone hype comes on).
I'm not really a fan of the "brostep"/"trapstep" I mentioned above, but I do like some stuff that is technically classified as EDM, like Cashmere Cat, Hudson Mohawke, TNGHT, Lunice etc. I like the dudes that take EDM techniques and drums and what-have-you, and do different and diverse stuff with it.
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I just noticed the other day how close modern rap is getting to rock and roll with the distorted 808s and the energy that is in it now. Not to mention, you have guys like Travis Scott, Thug, Future, Keef, Makonnen, etc. who rely more on melody and elaborate production than simple beats that showcase the lyrics and conventional rhyming. It's almost like a new genre, an urbanized version of rock and roll....Pretty interesting.
EDM term is definitely new, no-one was talking about "going to an EDM gig" back in the '80s or '90s lol.
But yeah, most of these labels that get slapped on are pretty stupid...
It's ALL rock n' roll to me
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I get that guys sometimes go up there and do live effects/mixing . . . That takes talent and it's dope . . . One of my favorite "artists" right now is Cashmere Cat.
But dis dude . . .
I frequent other forums and they were saying this was a dope set . . . All I saw was a large scale version of what I do when my boys hand me the Aux cord in the whip. All he did was play the hot songs of the past 12 months.
I kept waiting for some actual remixes too . . . even though that still wouldn't have been a "live" thing, it would have been dope.
Went to ImShmacked and the DJ did the same thing lol. Just pressed play.
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EDM is the new pop. I mess wit it because the beats n vocals are so fresh. When its done right its some future 2100.
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Trust you?
By many do you mean more than 1?
Look around man. It's pretty common knowledge, especially to anyone familiar with the genre that the acronym is basically a mainstream label for it.
Which has only been applied since it really "popped". Which at the earliest was 2007. And even that's a stretch.
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Whenever I think of EDM I envision Lady Gaga Pokerface playing in my head. It's a dreadful feeling 
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i agree EDM has the same formula as far as structure. but what appeals to me is the dynamics of the sound FX and how it hits every frequency in your ears!
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Thats the slap though.Whenever I think of EDM I envision Lady Gaga Pokerface playing in my head. It's a dreadful feeling
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I agree. First time I heard Cashmere Cat I felt like I was on drugs from how crisp all the sounds and frequencies were. And I was sober.
What are some of your favorite artists? I'm tryna listen to some different ****. Rap getting repetitive.
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