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You tryna say something wrong with Fox News?
Its the most objective and reliable source of journalism and current events.
Get it right.
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US worker beheads colleague after being fired
Its the most objective and reliable source of journalism and current events.
Get it right.
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LOL. It's one thing to acknowledge that non-Muslim people commit or attempt to commit acts of domestic terrorism. It's another thing to say that Islamic extremists perpetrate a "relatively small" number of them.
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the power of religion
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The power of belief
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WTH? Did he have a machete in his car?
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In America, yes. Please prove otherwise or take a seat.
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Damn that's crazy. Hopefully he gets what he deserves in prison.
Mhm..
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inb4 this turns into a political thread then race thread then random thread
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Um, your original post was about "Terrorism in the United States."
You even posted the wikipedia link.
And within the wikipedia link YOU provided, your own theory was debunked.
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This is definitley more of a "crazy person gets fired and kills coworker" thing than a "islamic extremist carries out terrorist plot against USA" thing.
I would be truly disgusted if the news cycle tried to play up the muslim aspect.
I would be truly disgusted if the news cycle tried to play up the muslim aspect.
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Did you actually read through that Wiki article in its entirety? Let's see the tally of terrorist acts attempted/committed by Muslims versus everyone else.
Sorry, you're coming off as a little stupid.
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I did. Believe it or not, if you post a link on this website, it's live. Therefore, I'm able to read through it.
And sure. Let's look at acts of domestic terrorism and see if those committed by Muslims is "relatively small" as you contend
I'll ignore the last part.
Oh wait, check out this relatively small list of domestic terrorism acts perpetrated by Muslims
- 1977 Hanafi Siege
- 1993 World Trade Center bombing
- 1997 Murder of Prison Guard by Haneef Bilal
- 2000 H. Rap Brown(Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin) shoots two police officers
- 2000 New York terror attack
- 2000 millennium attack plots
- 2001 September 11 attacks
- 2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting
- 2002 José Padilla (Abdullah al-Muhajir) Plot
- 2002 Buffalo Six
- 2004 financial buildings plot
- 2005 Los Angeles bomb plot
- 2006 Sears Tower plot
- 2006 Toledo terror plot
- 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot
- 2007 Fort Dix attack plot
- 2007 John F. Kennedy International Airport attack plot
- 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting
- 2009 Bronx terrorism plot
- 2009 Dallas Car Bomb Plot by Hosam Maher Husein Smadi
- 2009 New York City Subway and United Kingdom plot
- 2009 Fort Hood shooting
- 2009 Colleen LaRose arrested (not made public until March 2010)
- 2010 King Salmon, Alaska local meteorologist and wife assassination plots
- 2010 Alleged Washington Metro bomb plot
- 2011 Alleged Saudi Arabian student bomb plots
- 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot
- 2011 Lone Wolf New York City, Bayonne,NJ pipe bombs plot.
- 2012 Car bomb plot in Florida.
- 2013 Boston Marathon bombing
- 2013 Wichita Airport bombing plot
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trying to convert his employees to islam had NOTHING to do with islamic terrorism.... mhmmm... like always.
and Fort Hood was workplace violence as well.
At least some liberals are calling out the ridiculous deflection, moral equivalence, and deluded political correctness when it comes to this subject
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...nce_shouldnt_we_start_with_honor_killers.html
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this dude just seems like he needed something to latch onto and chose islam or better yet his interpretation of islam as a way to legitimize his actions
consider that islam is the world's most populous religion. then consider that if it was religion that pushed people to do these things (islam in particular) these things would be happening at a more frequent rate, especially in this country
if you want to target religion and islam specifically for teaching and/or forcing people to commit these terrible acts then i'd venture to say you were most likely down that road of prejudice to begin with with and looking to point fingers from what you think is a heightened point of view
consider that islam is the world's most populous religion. then consider that if it was religion that pushed people to do these things (islam in particular) these things would be happening at a more frequent rate, especially in this country
if you want to target religion and islam specifically for teaching and/or forcing people to commit these terrible acts then i'd venture to say you were most likely down that road of prejudice to begin with with and looking to point fingers from what you think is a heightened point of view
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This is how I feel. Islam was only a secondary motive but the media is treating it as thee motive.
Seems like a disgruntled worker and/or mental health case who didn't fit in anywhere so he chose religion.
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Trying to convert your coworkers is something that crazy people of all religions do.
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Still waiting on the tally for the other side.
Oh wait...
So, 31 incidents. Cool. Let's see the tally for the other side. Here's a hint. The incidents from 1800-1970 ALONE outnumber 31 incidents.
I noticed how you conveniently forgot to post about that aspect. Want to copy and paste all of those links, or should I?
You're also forgetting that the definition of terrorism has expanded quite largely in the last decade or so. I see no mention of the acts of terrorism such as the attempted genocide of the native american people, or even the assassinations of people like Malcolm X and Dr. MLK Jr.
But keep on promoting Murdoch's agenda, homie.
Oh wait...
I did. Believe it or not, if you post a link on this website, it's live. Therefore, I'm able to read through it.
And sure. Let's look at acts of domestic terrorism and see if those committed by Muslims is "relatively small" as you contend
I'll ignore the last part.
Oh wait, check out this relatively small list of domestic terrorism acts perpetrated by Muslims
So, 31 incidents. Cool. Let's see the tally for the other side. Here's a hint. The incidents from 1800-1970 ALONE outnumber 31 incidents.
I noticed how you conveniently forgot to post about that aspect. Want to copy and paste all of those links, or should I?
You're also forgetting that the definition of terrorism has expanded quite largely in the last decade or so. I see no mention of the acts of terrorism such as the attempted genocide of the native american people, or even the assassinations of people like Malcolm X and Dr. MLK Jr.
But keep on promoting Murdoch's agenda, homie.
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The bogeyman is coming! He's coming to convert your kids to radical Islam and bring their Shari'a Law!!111!!!! omg omg omg
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Oh now I see what I'm dealing with with youStill waiting on the tally for the other side.
Oh wait...
So, 31 incidents. Cool. Let's see the tally for the other side. Here's a hint. The incidents from 1800-1970 ALONE outnumber 31 incidents.
I noticed how you conveniently forgot to post about that aspect. Want to copy and paste all of those links, or should I?
You're also forgetting that the definition of terrorism has expanded quite largely in the last decade or so. I see no mention of the acts of terrorism such as the Boston Tea Party, the attempted genocide of the native american people, or even the assassinations of people like Malcolm X and Dr. MLK Jr.
But keep on promoting Murdoch's agenda, homie.
You're counting the days when people were attempting to assassinate presidents with muskets.
What relevance does that have with this discussion? When dude you responded to was referring to terrorism that predates 9/11, I don't think he meant when things looked like this:
And even if you really want to use the 1800's as your argument (
Son really went back 200+ years ago for his argument. You're not even following the discussion sequence.
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Oh now I see what I'm dealing with with you
You're counting the days when people were attempting to assassinate presidents with muskets.
What relevance does that have with this discussion? When dude you responded to was referring to terrorism that predates 9/11, I don't think he meant when things looked like this:
And even if you really want to use the 1800's as your argument (), the list I used is still not "relatively small."
Son really went back 200+ years ago for his argument. You're not even following the discussion sequence.
I said in America... As in, the entire history if America. I didn't know the 1700 and 1800s didn't count. Because you didn't read about those times, they don't exist?
They had bombs back then too, playa. But let's downplay tradegies like killing groups of Chinese railroad workers with dynamite to prove your point. You seem to have a short memory, so I'll forgive you. In the history of America, a list of 31 incidents is relatively small. Hell, events like what happened on Peoria Street in Chicago are acts of terrorism....I tried to allude to it, but just counting the Civil Rights era, I'm sure you could find a lot more than 31 incidents of what we define as terrorism..fire bombs, mass shootings, etc.
These things are not out of the discussion sequence. There wasn't even a defined discussion sequence. You're trying to impose those rules because you now realize what a stupid argument you had coming into it. "Oh, oh, it doesn't count if it was before TV was invented!" Its incredible, its almost like you're purposely disregarding a wealth of factual information to keep your perspective of the world true in your eyes.
Cognitive dissonance is a b***h, huh?
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It's just a few crazy people in this world. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims, or 23% of the world's population.Religion
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No point in having an argument about terrorism domestic terrorism with someone who's stuck in the days of butter churnin' and cholera.I said in America... As in, the entire history if America. I didn't know the 1700 and 1800s didn't count. Because you didn't read about those times, they don't exist?They had bombs back then too, playa. But let's downplay tradegies like killing groups of Chinese railroad workers with dynamite to prove your point. You seem to have a short memory, so I'll forgive you.
In the history of America, a list of 31 incidents is relatively small. Hell, events like what happened on Peoria Street in Chicago are acts of terrorism....I tried to allude to it, but just counting the Civil Rights era, I'm sure you could find a lot more than 31 incidents of what we define as terrorism..fire bombs, mass shootings, etc.
These things are not out of the discussion sequence. There wasn't even a defined discussion sequence. You're trying to impose those rules because you now realize what a stupid argument you had coming into it. "Oh, oh, it doesn't count if it was before TV was invented!" Its incredible, its almost like you're purposely disregarding a wealth of factual information to keep your perspective of the world true in your eyes.
Cognitive dissonance is a b***h, huh?
I didn't deny historical acts or deny what an act of terrorism. Anyone is capable of planning and carrying out a terrorist act by definition.
I simply said that Islamic terrorism within the US confines is not some trivial matter you seem so adamant about. That's idiotic.
Like...it's a real thing
"bu bu bu but John Lee Taylor is 1752..."
Yeah I'm gonna worry about the present-future.
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No point in having an argument about terrorism domestic terrorism with someone who's stuck in the days of butter churnin' and cholera.
I didn't deny historical acts or deny what an act of terrorism. Anyone is capable of planning and carrying out a terrorist act by definition.
I simply said that Islamic terrorism within the US confines is not some trivial matter you seem so adamant about. That's idiotic.
Like...it's a real thing
Yeah I'm gonna worry about the present-future.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
I never said muslim terrorism wasn't real, nor did I ever downplay the very real threat of Muslim extremism. I said the number of terroristic acts perpetuated by Muslims throughout America is relatively small, I didn't know I had to actually say that includes things from before 1990.
Did you not say the article i posted disproved my point?
But keep projecting what you thought I meant onto my argument...
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