How to Get Away with Murder..Thursdays on ABC

Binge watched the show this past week. It's flames. 1st episode of S2...well damn. Viola and Jean Gray getting it in. I already got an idea who it is that shoots her. 
 
so the whole season will be leading up to Annalise getting shot? then we have to wait until season 3 to see who kills her right? sounds like that pretty little liars show :lol:
 
It depends we got to see who really killed Lila in the season finale, so I'm assuming it'll follow the same template for this season and we'll get to see in the season finale what happens. That corny *** Gibbons couldn't have done it. 
 
I highly doubt viola gets offed this season. Seems like they're putting that out there in case they don't get the nod for a third season. If they don't get the contract then they'll show it all.
 
so the whole season will be leading up to Annalise getting shot? then we have to wait until season 3 to see who kills her right? sounds like that pretty little liars show :lol:
Nah, most of the season will lead up to Annalise getting shot and then when there's like 3 or 4 eps left we'll know who shot her and why. She'll survive and then somebody else will be killed in the 2nd to last ep or the finale to hook us for S3 :lol:
 
Going to watch the first ep then let them build up. Not really for waiting week to week or I could just wait for more tv shows to premiere so I can watch about three a day to ease the pain
 
Suprised Jean Gray went at Keating like that but it worked. Going to be crazy to see how this all plays out. 
 
Not feeling how every show has to have a same sex story line. Like 1stwitit said. Honestly I get tired of seeing that stuff. First the dudes now Annalise...smh
 
It's beautiful.

Tons of chicks had lesbian relationships in college.

If anything we need more bisexual and lesbian love scenes on television.
 
^scandal, walking dead, empire, game of thrones, the good wife, this show...it would be nice to celebrate, but I feel it's just for ratings. There is no reason for this to be written into Annaliese's character.
 
Y'all really need to grow up is 2015. LGBT is not taboo and you're going to be seeing more and more of it. They aren't complaining about the hetero-scenes so either deal with it out turn the channel.
 
Nothing taboo at all. LGBT is very heavy in the media, so I feel it's easy to throw it in there to get ratings and the creativity is second.
 
^scandal, walking dead, empire, game of thrones, the good wife, this show...it would be nice to celebrate, but I feel it's just for ratings. There is no reason for this to be written into Annaliese's character.
The Walking Dead sucks and I've read the comics so I can see how a made up lesbian character for the show can just be for ratings.

Never really watched Scandal so I wouldn't know. Everything I know about the show is from women I mess with or friends that watch it.

Game of Thrones shouldn't really be apart of this discussion. Not only is it far superior but the show is based off a book that was written back in the 90s. Any LBGT representation has to do with GRRM being slightly perverted and this having a old world setting, not throwing random gay ppl in it for ratings. I don't think this counts at all. It's almost a period piece in that sense so it's more appropriate the same way Mad Men and Masters of Sex have handled their gay story lines.

I'm aware of like one off and on ongoing lesbian relationship involving a bisexual character on The Good Wife. Never felt just for ratings either. The stuff for Kalinda had strong writing. It informed on her character since she was a bit mysterious and a badass loner. I felt the reveal of it was somewhat seamless. One of the rare strong showings of a bisexual on tv. Showed her ex-husband, showed a few ex female hookups that could help her out, had the lesbian FBI chick, and her relationship with Kerry Agos.

I will say though, stuff like Scandal and The Good Wife seemed more geared towards a female demographic specifically and I don't know how all of them respond to the influx of LBGT stuff since this is my male perspective.

I don't deny that some shows go too hard on this but to me it's different when there's strong writing and when there's not. I've mostly seen that stuff for shows like Glee and the dudes who created that show. I see it on other cable shows where a gay character seems to be introduced for a quota. Like it's a fad but this is what happens when a group gets ignored and oppressed for so long and only represented negatively for so long. For Empire, you can see the difference in some of the writing. When that dude in make up singing all loud in Jamal's office, I felt that was straight up Lee Daniel's agenda but stuff like Jamal being a gay man that isn't fond of the more flamboyant homosexuals actually has some depth to it that can be explored with the right writers.

With Annalise we don't know how much of her bi/lesbian past will be focused/explored/detailed for us to make everybody feel like it fits or is justified (not that it needs to be justified. I mean some chicks have had lesbian gfs in their past, it's the whole closet full of skeletons thing). I feel ppl are saying it's not needed and no reason for it cuz they have a certain view of her character and her having a lesbian relationship doesn't fit in with the box they put Annalise in where as the fact that she was raped fits in. I feel the writer's in their own way are trying to make this revelation just as strong in developing who Annalise is as were the eps where she revealed she was raped, same with her mom and the eps where she took off all her makeup and fake hair. If anything the gay student hooking up with the gay Asian guy and that still being a thing in S2 has been more of a stretch and forced. The whole off hand lie about dude being HIV positive and still wanting to bang dude was ridiculous.
 
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So if she had another male lover backstory that ended up representing Nate would that have been a ratings grab?
 
So if she had another male lover backstory that ended up representing Nate would that have been a ratings grab?
No cuz the basis of this complaint is that homosexual and/or bisexual relationships are being shown to be something of a fad or at least some ppl take it that way. I'll say again as far as tv dramas or hr long shows that weren't police procedurals it was pretty much the success of Glee that attracted the LBGT community and women. A prior heterosexual relationship wouldn't be seen as such since we've only seen Annalise in two of those in S1. I think perhaps if the writers hinted at her being bisexual back then there wouldn't be such complaining now.

Once executive producers for all networks saw that was a demographic they could actually get and keep (and not just with sitcoms like Will & Grace) they struck while the iron was hot. That's why we're seeing such a wave of LBGT characters popping up. Some of it is solely for ratings, some of it is a real effort and most times you can tell the difference. A creative team can have a story and base how they tell it around LBGT characters while other shows can see they need a boost and the writers might get a unsubtle suggestion that they should "get a gay on the show" or a gay plot line.

If you look at the history of tv that's just basically how it is. You can look blacks in television as an example and how that ebbed and flowed until where we're at with Empire. Lee Daniels is gay so you should expect something like that for his show.

I bet Shonda Rhimes probably has some track record of inclusion but it's yet to be seen how shallow making Annalise bi is at the moment.

I'd say though for everybody, keep in mind this whole thing is a ratings grab; the use of murder, the mystery, the attitudes, how they talk to each other, secrecy, etc. Especially on network tv it's all about ratings.
 
There's a difference between saying a character/scenario was unnecessary and saying they're pushing a agenda though, it's legal in 50 states there's nothing to push anymore. :lol:
 
Just caught up, only thing I can say is that damn Asian boyfriend Oliver might as well be on payroll. He's single handily won multiple cases or been a big reason why they won 

Feel like it's getting to the point where it's an easy cop out for the writers now. Oh, just have Oliver hack into the system and find dirt. Midas well just tell him to do that at the start of every case
 
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