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2015 NEW YORK YANKEES OFFSEASON THREAD VOL. Baseball is in the air
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This kid would flourish in pinstripes. Really hope we sign him.
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I really wish they wouldn't pass because the price tag. I get why it makes them somewhat afraid to invest.
But with the amount of international players we went after from this past year's top 30, and adding Yoan Moncada, we can sit back and not worry about diving into that market for some time.
But with the amount of international players we went after from this past year's top 30, and adding Yoan Moncada, we can sit back and not worry about diving into that market for some time.
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@BleacherReport: CC Sabathia reports to spring training at 305 lbs, after coming in last year at 275 lbs. http://t.co/GOPHUhQbUV
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Good, we need our fat boy back.
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Red Sox signed Moncada
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yo , why the **** are penny pinchin all of a sudden >:
i'm salty as hell losing this kid, especially to the sox .... this salary watchin **** got me burnt, we're the Yankees !!!
i miss George
i'm salty as hell losing this kid, especially to the sox .... this salary watchin **** got me burnt, we're the Yankees !!!
i miss George
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signed for $30 mil
$60 mil in taxes tho :x
$60 mil in taxes tho :x
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**** that , we shoulda gave him 31 ... I know I sound stupid as hell right now but losing this kid to them made my coffee taste like vinegar
I hear we got some studs in the minors but really, when are we gonna see em. they're just trade bait ...
I hear we got some studs in the minors but really, when are we gonna see em. they're just trade bait ...
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I hate being a Yankee fan
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Read something last night, I think of Yahoo, claiming that if a team wanted to sign Moncada they had to sign his mentor/friend. Some 27 year old OF'er that spent a few years in the minors and played recently in the Independent league.
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I'm somewhat furious, but not as much as the bonehead move not to go up to 7yr/$200 for Cano. And if need be go an 8th with partial guarantee.
Yeah, yeah, he wanted 10 years. But I think had we negotiated instead of a firm take it or leave it, he'd be here today. And we probably don't sign Beltran, which means we never have to see he or A-Rod play in the field in 2015.
Yeah, yeah, he wanted 10 years. But I think had we negotiated instead of a firm take it or leave it, he'd be here today. And we probably don't sign Beltran, which means we never have to see he or A-Rod play in the field in 2015.
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agreed, should have done whatever to keep Cano here. i hate the way i sound right now but losing out on this kid has me just
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Cano was/ is my favorite player so I'll stay out of that discussion.
Really thought Moncada was ours smh.
Really thought Moncada was ours smh.
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They said he wanted to come to NY for a little more money but we wouldn't budge. Boston offered more and he picked that.
A GAWD is at work today fellas.
A GAWD is at work today fellas.
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I had a ****** day yesterday..and this def didn't help..
and the best part? Boston signed him..
no words
and the best part? Boston signed him..
no words
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George would have had Moncada signed right away .
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the shoes these dudes are filling :\
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Sigh...this Yankees team is just waiting to implode. Every single player has a question mark. Literally every single one. This team has no stability, no corner stone, nothing that can make you feel confident about putting up a fight in this division. If we're lucky we are fighting for 3rd place...
Tex - can't stay healthy if his life depended on it, - waste of a massive contract
A-Rod - can he bounce back and provide ANYTHING? Who wouldn't sign up for 15hrs 60 RBI and a .250 BA? I would for sure and I think that would be a fair season from him in about 450 ABs.
Didi - huge shoes to fill, pressure of NY, can he provide anything offensively? He has the range and the glove
Betances - Closer? 8th inning guy? what's his role? Can he do it again?
Drew - Can he stay healthy and can he be consistent?
McCann - Stay healthy
Sabathia - Yes he gained his fat back but after those first four years of his contract he's been a shell of his former self. While many people say he's already paid for his contract based on performance over those four years, I don't want him to just be a guy in a uniform. He needs to give us 6 innings and K's.
Tanaka - bounce back from a serious elbow injury
Pineda - no pine tar, no problem?
Nova - Will he come back and be productive at all in June?
Eovaldi - Has strong stuff, can he transition from NL to AL?
Gardner - Health, can he steal 40 bases like we think he should?
Beltran - Can he stay healthy and be the Beltran we think he can be?
Ellsbury - The one constant on the team probably with Gardner but health is always a concern
Headley - will he ever get close to his 2012 season?
Our bench right now consists of Garett Jones, Brendan Ryan and Chris Young..................
Assuming our Rotation is
Sabathia, Tanaka, Eovaldi, Pineda and who...Warren? I really don't know who our fifth starter will be. Our bullpen seems strong.
This isn't the Yankees team we grew up with, and I think those days are long gone and will never be back. Management is not the same. And it's a damn shame.
Tex - can't stay healthy if his life depended on it, - waste of a massive contract
A-Rod - can he bounce back and provide ANYTHING? Who wouldn't sign up for 15hrs 60 RBI and a .250 BA? I would for sure and I think that would be a fair season from him in about 450 ABs.
Didi - huge shoes to fill, pressure of NY, can he provide anything offensively? He has the range and the glove
Betances - Closer? 8th inning guy? what's his role? Can he do it again?
Drew - Can he stay healthy and can he be consistent?
McCann - Stay healthy
Sabathia - Yes he gained his fat back but after those first four years of his contract he's been a shell of his former self. While many people say he's already paid for his contract based on performance over those four years, I don't want him to just be a guy in a uniform. He needs to give us 6 innings and K's.
Tanaka - bounce back from a serious elbow injury
Pineda - no pine tar, no problem?
Nova - Will he come back and be productive at all in June?
Eovaldi - Has strong stuff, can he transition from NL to AL?
Gardner - Health, can he steal 40 bases like we think he should?
Beltran - Can he stay healthy and be the Beltran we think he can be?
Ellsbury - The one constant on the team probably with Gardner but health is always a concern
Headley - will he ever get close to his 2012 season?
Our bench right now consists of Garett Jones, Brendan Ryan and Chris Young..................
Assuming our Rotation is
Sabathia, Tanaka, Eovaldi, Pineda and who...Warren? I really don't know who our fifth starter will be. Our bullpen seems strong.
This isn't the Yankees team we grew up with, and I think those days are long gone and will never be back. Management is not the same. And it's a damn shame.
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Agree with all your points venom but left that part of the quote for emphasis. We've done nothing major to shake this team/better it from last years debacle. Instead, we have set up days for Monument Park plaque ceremonies
.Call me crazy, but maybe it'll take a winning season from the Mets to force the hand of Hal and Hank...
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what it's going to take is a shift in mentality within the front office. It's time to stop bringing in 35+ year old FA's. It's time to stop holding on to relics and hoping they are going to produce like the players they were 10 years ago.
We have a strong farm system yet between all these STUPID contracts and ego's they will NEVER get a chance to play.
We have a strong farm system yet between all these STUPID contracts and ego's they will NEVER get a chance to play.
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The only numbers currently available [in Spring Training] are 38, 50, 57 and 69.
Here's the ridiculousness of the Yankees and the number fiasco:
TAMPA, Fla. — When Garrett Jones was traded to the Yankees in December, he was hoping to bring with him his good-luck charm of a number, 46. When the Yankees acquired shortstop Brendan Ryan, he knew he would be denied his favorite childhood number, 7. And when Jacoby Ellsbury signed a free-agent contract with the Yankees, he realized that even though the team was giving him $153 million, the Yankees would not give him a jersey with 2 on the back.
When players join the Yankees, they are afforded all manners of privilege to play for one of sports’ marquee franchises, one with a tradition of winning and of sparing few expenses to do so.
But wearing their favorite number is often not one of them.
If the Yankees like to imagine they do things bigger and better than anyone else, they approach retiring numbers with the same gusto.
They have retired 18 numbers, and by the end of this summer, another three will be decommissioned: the No. 20 belonging to catcher Jorge Posada, pitcher Andy Pettitte’s 46 and the 51 worn by center fielder Bernie Williams. And it will not be long before Derek Jeter’s 2 joins them.
In addition, 21, which belonged to right fielder Paul O’Neill, seems to have been given an off-the-books retirement. In the 14 years since O’Neill retired, it has been awarded only briefly, in 2008, to LaTroy Hawkins and Morgan Ensberg, according to Baseball-Reference.com.
Throw in No. 0, which has never been worn by a Yankee, and that makes 23 numbers that are unavailable.
“They’re going to have to go to triple digits pretty soon,” said Ryan, a backup shortstop. “I don’t think they want to have to go to negative numbers.”
Nobody else comes close to the Yankees in their zest to retire numbers: The St. Louis Cardinals have retired 13 numbers, including Jackie Robinson’s 42, which has been retired throughout baseball. (The Yankees had their own reason to retire 42 — it belonged to Mariano Rivera.) The Atlanta Braves are next, having retired 11 numbers. Five other teams, including the two former New York teams — the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants — have retired 10. The Mets have retired four, only one of them belonging to a Mets player, Tom Seaver’s 41.
Jersey numbers, like the way a player wears his stirrups or stands in the batter’s box, can become part of a player’s identity. In some cases, athletes joining a new team offer to pay handsome rewards for a number. (When John Lackey joined the Cardinals last year, he gave Pat Neshek a Babe Ruth-autographed baseball for No. 41.)
A player’s uniform number is more fluid in baseball than in other sports. In the N.B.A. and N.F.L., a player must petition to change his number. The N.F.L. requires players at certain positions to wear numbers in a certain range.
In baseball, rookies and minor leaguers are traditionally accorded the highest uniform numbers in spring training. If they make the team, they are often rewarded with a lower number. Jeter was given 70 in his first training camp, then switched to 2 when he made the team.
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Austin Romine, a backup catcher, wears 55, his fifth uniform number.
“It’s my eighth year, and I’m in the 50s,” Romine said. “If you get in the 50s in New York, that’s saying something.”
Having a high number in spring training is also a way of making sure that younger players who have yet to reach the major leagues understand they are plebes.
“The last thing you want to be is a diva,” said Ryan, who was given 63 in his first training camp with St. Louis. “You’re kind of told ears open, mouth shut.”
The Yankees’ equipment manager, Rob Cucuzza, keeps a color-coded spreadsheet listing in numerical order which player is assigned to each number. Retired numbers are highlighted in black, and ones that are already taken are in blue. The only numbers currently available are 38, 50, 57 and 69.
Options are also scarce when a player is acquired during the season. Second baseman Stephen Drew had only worn single digits in Boston, Oakland and Arizona. He wore 33 when he joined the Yankees in the middle of last season, then switched to 14.
“Some guys are blown away that so many numbers aren’t available,” said Cucuzza, who tries to keep low numbers available in case the team acquires a veteran during spring training. “But once they see the list, they understand.”
Sometimes players are given numbers that would seem to have a connection to them. Nathan Eovaldi, who joined the Yankees from Miami in a December trade, was given 30, the number worn by Nolan Ryan — who came from Eovaldi’s hometown, Alvin, Tex. — when he broke in with the Mets. Andrew Miller was given 48, which seems to have been reserved for left-handed relievers, with Matt Thornton, Josh Outman, Boone Logan and Phil Coke having worn it in recent seasons, though Cucuzza said it was a coincidence.
Most players have a story that goes with their number. Dellin Betances, the Yankees’ towering relief pitcher, kept the No. 68 he was given in spring training last year because it represented his height, 6 feet 8 inches. Another reliever, Adam Warren, said the best thing about having 43 was that he stood next to Rivera when the opening day roster was announced in Rivera’s last season.
The Yankees are the sixth team Chris Capuano has pitched for. He wore 57 in Arizona, 39 in Milwaukee, 38 with the Mets, 35 with the Dodgers and 55 in Boston. He is wearing 26 with the Yankees, allowing for some symmetry — it is the number he wore at Duke, which is tattooed along with a D on his thigh.
For some, the attachment is less about sentiment than about superstition. Jones was given 46 when he finally established himself in Pittsburgh after a decade in the minors. But with that number being retired in honor of Pettitte, he settled for 33.
Ryan has an affinity for 7 because his favorite player growing up was Mickey Mantle. It is an odd attachment: Ryan is from Los Angeles and was born more than a decade after Mantle retired.
“I always heard about the Mick,” Ryan said. “He hit the farthest ball ever and he ran the fastest, so it was like he’s super human — I want to be that guy.”
Ryan has not worn Mantle’s number since high school. Jim Edmonds, a teammate in St. Louis, told the clubhouse manager to give Ryan 13 because he was tired of looking at 63. Ryan took 26 in Seattle because his birthday is March 26. When he arrived in New York in the middle of 2013, he was given 39, but he quickly asked Cucuzza for another number, settling on 35. He switched to 17 last season.
“I don’t know who’s wearing 39 now,” Ryan said (it’s pitcher Chase Whitley). “But I was like, Come on, you expect me to hit in that number? I need something a little easier on the eye. I feel like 17 is a nice, clean number.”
It also has a digit Mantle wore. But most important, with the Yankees, it was available.
Here's the ridiculousness of the Yankees and the number fiasco:
TAMPA, Fla. — When Garrett Jones was traded to the Yankees in December, he was hoping to bring with him his good-luck charm of a number, 46. When the Yankees acquired shortstop Brendan Ryan, he knew he would be denied his favorite childhood number, 7. And when Jacoby Ellsbury signed a free-agent contract with the Yankees, he realized that even though the team was giving him $153 million, the Yankees would not give him a jersey with 2 on the back.
When players join the Yankees, they are afforded all manners of privilege to play for one of sports’ marquee franchises, one with a tradition of winning and of sparing few expenses to do so.
But wearing their favorite number is often not one of them.
If the Yankees like to imagine they do things bigger and better than anyone else, they approach retiring numbers with the same gusto.
They have retired 18 numbers, and by the end of this summer, another three will be decommissioned: the No. 20 belonging to catcher Jorge Posada, pitcher Andy Pettitte’s 46 and the 51 worn by center fielder Bernie Williams. And it will not be long before Derek Jeter’s 2 joins them.
In addition, 21, which belonged to right fielder Paul O’Neill, seems to have been given an off-the-books retirement. In the 14 years since O’Neill retired, it has been awarded only briefly, in 2008, to LaTroy Hawkins and Morgan Ensberg, according to Baseball-Reference.com.
Throw in No. 0, which has never been worn by a Yankee, and that makes 23 numbers that are unavailable.
“They’re going to have to go to triple digits pretty soon,” said Ryan, a backup shortstop. “I don’t think they want to have to go to negative numbers.”
Nobody else comes close to the Yankees in their zest to retire numbers: The St. Louis Cardinals have retired 13 numbers, including Jackie Robinson’s 42, which has been retired throughout baseball. (The Yankees had their own reason to retire 42 — it belonged to Mariano Rivera.) The Atlanta Braves are next, having retired 11 numbers. Five other teams, including the two former New York teams — the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants — have retired 10. The Mets have retired four, only one of them belonging to a Mets player, Tom Seaver’s 41.
Jersey numbers, like the way a player wears his stirrups or stands in the batter’s box, can become part of a player’s identity. In some cases, athletes joining a new team offer to pay handsome rewards for a number. (When John Lackey joined the Cardinals last year, he gave Pat Neshek a Babe Ruth-autographed baseball for No. 41.)
A player’s uniform number is more fluid in baseball than in other sports. In the N.B.A. and N.F.L., a player must petition to change his number. The N.F.L. requires players at certain positions to wear numbers in a certain range.
In baseball, rookies and minor leaguers are traditionally accorded the highest uniform numbers in spring training. If they make the team, they are often rewarded with a lower number. Jeter was given 70 in his first training camp, then switched to 2 when he made the team.
Continue reading the main storyContinue reading the main storyContinue reading the main story
Austin Romine, a backup catcher, wears 55, his fifth uniform number.
“It’s my eighth year, and I’m in the 50s,” Romine said. “If you get in the 50s in New York, that’s saying something.”
Having a high number in spring training is also a way of making sure that younger players who have yet to reach the major leagues understand they are plebes.
“The last thing you want to be is a diva,” said Ryan, who was given 63 in his first training camp with St. Louis. “You’re kind of told ears open, mouth shut.”
The Yankees’ equipment manager, Rob Cucuzza, keeps a color-coded spreadsheet listing in numerical order which player is assigned to each number. Retired numbers are highlighted in black, and ones that are already taken are in blue. The only numbers currently available are 38, 50, 57 and 69.
Options are also scarce when a player is acquired during the season. Second baseman Stephen Drew had only worn single digits in Boston, Oakland and Arizona. He wore 33 when he joined the Yankees in the middle of last season, then switched to 14.
“Some guys are blown away that so many numbers aren’t available,” said Cucuzza, who tries to keep low numbers available in case the team acquires a veteran during spring training. “But once they see the list, they understand.”
Sometimes players are given numbers that would seem to have a connection to them. Nathan Eovaldi, who joined the Yankees from Miami in a December trade, was given 30, the number worn by Nolan Ryan — who came from Eovaldi’s hometown, Alvin, Tex. — when he broke in with the Mets. Andrew Miller was given 48, which seems to have been reserved for left-handed relievers, with Matt Thornton, Josh Outman, Boone Logan and Phil Coke having worn it in recent seasons, though Cucuzza said it was a coincidence.
Most players have a story that goes with their number. Dellin Betances, the Yankees’ towering relief pitcher, kept the No. 68 he was given in spring training last year because it represented his height, 6 feet 8 inches. Another reliever, Adam Warren, said the best thing about having 43 was that he stood next to Rivera when the opening day roster was announced in Rivera’s last season.
The Yankees are the sixth team Chris Capuano has pitched for. He wore 57 in Arizona, 39 in Milwaukee, 38 with the Mets, 35 with the Dodgers and 55 in Boston. He is wearing 26 with the Yankees, allowing for some symmetry — it is the number he wore at Duke, which is tattooed along with a D on his thigh.
For some, the attachment is less about sentiment than about superstition. Jones was given 46 when he finally established himself in Pittsburgh after a decade in the minors. But with that number being retired in honor of Pettitte, he settled for 33.
Ryan has an affinity for 7 because his favorite player growing up was Mickey Mantle. It is an odd attachment: Ryan is from Los Angeles and was born more than a decade after Mantle retired.
“I always heard about the Mick,” Ryan said. “He hit the farthest ball ever and he ran the fastest, so it was like he’s super human — I want to be that guy.”
Ryan has not worn Mantle’s number since high school. Jim Edmonds, a teammate in St. Louis, told the clubhouse manager to give Ryan 13 because he was tired of looking at 63. Ryan took 26 in Seattle because his birthday is March 26. When he arrived in New York in the middle of 2013, he was given 39, but he quickly asked Cucuzza for another number, settling on 35. He switched to 17 last season.
“I don’t know who’s wearing 39 now,” Ryan said (it’s pitcher Chase Whitley). “But I was like, Come on, you expect me to hit in that number? I need something a little easier on the eye. I feel like 17 is a nice, clean number.”
It also has a digit Mantle wore. But most important, with the Yankees, it was available.
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