2015 NEW YORK YANKEES OFFSEASON THREAD VOL. Baseball is in the air

[essential1]

4/48 is too much :x

It sound right.

I was thinking he'd be $10mil.


I would have done 3 year / $36mil. 4 / $48 is one year too many. Part of the reason, I'd go as high as $12mil, is he'd be the type of contract that becomes very valuable in July, and could get a mid-level prospect down the line if we wanted to sell.

 

[Hahahaha]

I like his glove but his bat isn't ****. We haven't seen him do much outside of that one unusual year he had. I want explosive offensive players more than a nice glove. It's an overreaction but our offense has been *** these last few years.

 

[acemaster193]

Not Yankee-related news but JJ Hardy just got inked for 3 years/$40M. Could've been a quick replacement at the SS position, but he got more than I would've expected.

 

[essential1]

Not Yankee-related news but JJ Hardy just got inked for 3 years/$40M. Could've been a quick replacement at the SS position, but he got more than I would've expected.

$3mil / year more than I thought.


But I was right on the years.. Score for me




Time to get a prospect package for Alexei Ramirez

 

[essential1]

The Yankees, according to King, were in attendance for Tomas’ showcase in the Dominican Republic, but rival clubs expect the Yanks to have a similar reaction to Tomas that they did to countryman Rusney Castillo. King adds that New York “showed very little interest” in Castillo after initially watching him. As King notes, the Yankees are hoping that Carlos Beltran can play right field next year in the event that Alex Rodriguez has to spend a lot of time at the DH position. Additionally, King spoke to one official who offered a lukewarm take on Tomas and his rumored price tag of roughly $100MM: “He is a good player, but for $100 million? I don’t know. He is better than [Castillo], but that doesn’t mean he is worth $100 million.”

Makes some sense.

 

[phillyzphan]

I would be shocked if Tomas got $100M but I expect him to get between $70-90M. Idk if he's worth it, but its the new trend in baseball. Teams were able to get Puig, Abreu, Cespedes, and even Soler for team friendly deals and they've worked out for the teams so far. But because those guys came over and produced almost immediately (Abreu and Cespedes) teams are gonna start over valuing these guys hoping its another Puig, Abreu, etc. Just like I expect the next Japanese pitcher thats posted to get a huge deal. Just because Tanaka, Iwakuma, and Darvish have worked out so far.

 

[essential1]

I need to bring this up again.... Brandon McCarthy's wife is SOOOOOOOOO Hot. We should just re-sign him to keep her apart of this organization.

I demand it.

 

[macbk]

I need to bring this up again.... Brandon McCarthy's wife is SOOOOOOOOO Hot. We should just re-sign him to keep her apart of this organization.

I demand it.

Woah

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I want him re-signed regardless, but his wife is definitely an incentive.

 

[T0INE]

Damn.

 

[nick.]

@Yankees: The #Yankees have re-signed Brian Cashman to a three-year contract to serve as Senior Vice President and General Manager.

 

[phillyzphan]

Yankees re-signed Cashman and let go Kevin Long.

I would hate to be a hitting coach. With pitchers they're normally more open to listening to pitching coaches. But when it comes to hitters, a lot of them already have their own personal hitting coaches or they go back and ask former coaches or their dad about what they should do at the plate. Teixeira and Bryce Harper always go back to their dads and ask for help on what to do instead of going to the hitting coach.

Edit: Cashman: Yankees have spoken to A-Rod about playing 1st base.

 

[onewearz]

Cash

Dont like that we let Long go

Watch the Mets sign him ....

 

[essential1]

It was time for him to go though.

 

[macbk]

A-Rod at 1st? Would be interesting to say the least.

 

[isco]

their hitting coach sucked

 

[freddie black]

their hitting coach sucked

Terrible!

He took over as hitting coach in 2007 and the Yankees led baseball with a 113 wRC+ from 2007-12 before falling apart these last two years, when, not coincidentally, the quality of the players on the roster went down.

 

[champcruthik]

I would be shocked if Tomas got $100M but I expect him to get between $70-90M. Idk if he's worth it, but its the new trend in baseball. Teams were able to get Puig, Abreu, Cespedes, and even Soler for team friendly deals and they've worked out for the teams so far. But because those guys came over and produced almost immediately (Abreu and Cespedes) teams are gonna start over valuing these guys hoping its another Puig, Abreu, etc. Just like I expect the next Japanese pitcher thats posted to get a huge deal. Just because Tanaka, Iwakuma, and Darvish have worked out so far.

Perhaps undeserved, but raw power alone and youth (23) will get Tomas more than Cespdes, Puig, Abreu, and Castillo. He's going to draw awfully close to $100M on his first MLB contract. Maeda will get even more, baseball world is rumored to be reporting in the neighborhood of $125M. Also an inflated price.

 

[essential1]

The Yankees have baseball’s most expensive enigma

By Joel Sherman
October 11, 2014 | 3:25pm

You do not often find Alex Rodriguez and under-reported in the same sentence. Yet: The problems facing the Yankees in assembling a 2015 roster with Alex Rodriguez have been under-reported.

This is not like, say, trying to plan with a pitcher coming back from Tommy John surgery. There is some roadmap for that. A-Rod is the most expensive mystery in major league history. He is the giant problem the Yanks must work around, but cannot remove.

Can he play third even a few times a week? Can he hit enough to DH? If he can do neither, the Yanks very well may be a 24-man team because ownership does not want to release a player a) with three years at $61 million still left on his contract or b) who needs to fully show he can’t play if there is going to be any chance to recoup a percentage of that amount through insurance.

Rodriguez has mostly not played for two years, turns 40 in summer and has two surgically repaired hips. Can he play clean? Will spring training even be enough time to know if he can play? Might he be shut down before or during spring training believing he can’t play in this condition and doesn’t want to further embarrass himself?

Each of these issues complicates a roster that already had tons of financial and structural hurdles:

Money

The Yankees generally problem-solve with their wallet. But Hal Steinbrenner told me yet again recently that no other team has to invest like the Yanks to win titles and that he is determined to drive down payroll.

Nevertheless, the chances of doing that this offseason appear as likely as Carmelo Anthony leading the NBA in assists.

The Yanks recognized 2014 as their last best chance to get under the $189 luxury-tax threshold because A-Rod was suspended and most of his $27.5 million (all salaries/payroll info in this piece will be for luxury-tax purposes) did not count toward the payroll.

But once the World Series ends, A-Rod goes back on the roster and the payroll — think of it like adding weight and still trying to slide into a Speedo.

At that point, the Yanks will have 10 players signed for 2015 — Rodriguez, CC Sabathia, Mark Teixeira, Masahiro Tanaka, Jacoby Ellsbury, Brian McCann, Carlos Beltran, Brett Gardner, Martin Prado and Brendan Ryan — at $175 million.

Each team is charged about $11 million for items such as insurance and pension. That brings the total to $186 million. The Yanks are likely to tender contracts to five arbitration-eligible players — Ivan Nova, Shawn Kelley, Francisco Cervelli, David Phelps and Michael Pineda. Those five should cost about $10 million. But it is possible the Yanks could non-tender Kelley or trade Cervelli and go with near-minimum-wage John Ryan Murphy as the backup catcher.

So that puts the Yanks at $196 million-ish for 15 players. Every Yankees dollar spent over $189 million is taxed at 50 percent. Steinbrenner already has said the club needs to add a shortstop and starting pitcher to cover for Nova, who is not due back from Tommy John surgery before May at the earliest. There are Yankees officials who also want to retain Chase Headley and Brandon McCarthy.

This cannot be done for less than $225 million, maybe not less than $230 million. At $229 million, the Yanks would be $40 million over the threshold and pay $20 million in tax.

And think of this hidden cost: If A-Rod is healthy enough to hit six homers, that would tie him with Willie Mays and trigger his first milestone bonus of $6 million, which with the 50 percent tax is really $9 million for the Yanks.

Roster

Nine of the 10 players already signed (all but Ryan) are locked up through at least 2016. Many have no-trade clauses, unfriendly contracts and declining skills, making them near impossible to move. Tanaka (elbow) and Sabathia (knee) are the only two pitchers signed, and there is no way to know if they will contribute next year or not. A-Rod (knees, hips, missed time), Beltran (elbow, knees) and Teixeira (wrist) will force the Yanks to find legitimate safety nets behind them while potentially over-crowding the DH slot.

A team usually carries 13 position players and 12 pitchers and it is best to have a position player or two (or more) with options so that if a staff is overwhelmed by, say, a long extra-inning game, it can summon a 13th pitcher and send down a position player. The Yanks already have eight position players under contract. Add a back-up catcher and a shortstop to be named. That is 10.

In theory, Martin Prado could play third if A-Rod can’t with cost-effective Rob Refsnyder or Jose Pirela at second. But Headley is a player the Yanks spent about five years trying to acquire. They finally did. They liked his toughness and skill. They want to keep him. That would be 11 position players.

They need insurance for Beltran and the farm system is not ready to give that. So do they re-sign Chris Young or a veteran of his ilk? That is a 12th player. Headley, Prado and Refsnyder can play infield and outfield, which helps with positional uncertainty. Still, the 13th spot probably has to be someone who plays first base and somewhere else such as Mike Morse or Mark Reynolds.

Or maybe the backup first baseman who can play elsewhere is A-Rod — the Yanks have asked him to work out at first base this offseason. Or he doesn’t play at all.

The Yanks begin the offseason with the most expensive mystery ever.

at Hal saying we need a Shortstop & Starting Pitching and just bringing back Headley & McCarthy.

Currently looking like a 0% chance that we make the playoffs next season.

Just cut your ******* losses. Get rid of A-Rod, pay him to go away, and just operate under the guise that the $61million does not exist. There is no other way for the New York Yankees to win a title in the next 3 years with A-Rod on the roster. I know it. You know. Hal knows it. Cash knows it. Everybody in baseball knows it.

Then you could sign Jon Lester, keep David Robertson, re-sign Chase Headley, trade for a Shortstop like Alexei Ramirez, and try to trade for a guy who can hit 20+ HRs in RF.


Everybody here would love to have a bunch of prospects come up and play.. But Judge, Sanchezm Jagielo, Bird, Cave, Williams, Austin, Heathcott, Severino, Lindgren.. Not a single one of them is ready in the next season to be in the big leagues. Hell I don't even think Refsnyder is ready.

 

[phillyzphan]

^ I always wondered why they haven't considered getting rid of ARod. The only reason I can think of is that they're hoping he comes back, looks terrible in the field, can't hit, and his hips fail him, so he decides to medically retire blaming his hips so he can still collect all of his salary and they'll be reimbursed by the insurance company for like 80-95%. 

 

[essential1]

Everything I read about what the Yankees should do is bring back the same team + A-Rod and hope for the best


This team stunk.. Stanked. Stinks.


Every time I read what we should do with the rotation it angers me. Lester, Scherzer & Shields. How often are 3 Ace's on the market in the same year? One of which is great in the postseason, and wouldn't cost a pick. Is an Andy Pettitte-esque pitcher who has the kind of stuff to last him the length of a long contract.

What do these columnists say? Ohhhhh bring Back McCarthy. And maybe Phelps & Mitchell can fill in in case injuries

McCarthy was great. So was Tanaka. So was Pineda.

But what is the rotation. 1- Tanaka 2- Pineda 3- McCarthy 4- CC 5- Greene and Nova when he gets back?

So we are going to trust Tanaka who has a partial tear. Pineda who can't stay healthy. McCarthy who was great for us, is a really good back-end starter on a title team. CC who god knows what he'll be. Greene who could end up a fluke. Nova coming off Tommy John.. What about that rotation says playoffs?

Now if you want to go 6 man rotation, and bring in Lester while bringing back McCarthy then you are talking playoffs.

 

[macbk]

What the hell did I briefly see this morning about us looking at Omar Minaya?

 

[essential1]

What the hell did I briefly see this morning about us looking at Omar Minaya?

Some sort of Front Office position.

 

[essential1]

11 Years Ago Today



Full Game:


I remember this game vividly. I sat in the same awkward position for 3 innings when Rivera was pitching because I was afraid if I moved, I'd jinx him

 

[kingfoamnyc]

About to watch us kill Pedro in 09

 

[macbk]

Late reply but I was in attendance at the Boone game.

Safe to say I'll never see a better moment live in my life.