The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

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"Here's a great idea. Let's have a midseason break to the season and call it the All-Star Break. Where the only players who don't get a break... are All-Stars!"
 
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WavyCrocket said:
Naw..good young player. But far from Genrational. KD and Bron are genrational talents. Those guys are rarities.
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He's the best center in the league and he's 24.


He almost got a triple double the other night because his team has the corpse of Ramon Sessions as his pg then goes for 28/18/5/4.


How is he not a generational talent?


Big men with amazing footwork, ball handling, passing ability, mid range jumpers, and athleticism who are 6'11 270 do not come around ever.

Hopefully with a stable coaching situation he can realize his true potential.
 
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GK gonna turn it around. it's better than their current situation. i've said this before about him, first round exits > annual lottery team.

but in the end...mike malone shouldve never got vivik'd
 
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DMan14 said:
GK gonna turn it around. it's better than their current situation. i've said this before about him, first round exits > annual lottery team.

but in the end...mike malone shouldve never got vivik'd
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#BringBackMalone

you're the only person on NT/social media/real media/etc that has any optimism about the Kings 
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DMan14 said:
GK gonna turn it around. it's better than their current situation. i've said this before about him, first round exits > annual lottery team.

but in the end...mike malone shouldve never got vivik'd
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but they should have done it two months ago when they were 11-13. At least then Karl could maybe work his mid-season magic and challenge for the 8th seed.
 
Boogie is by far a generational talent. Whether or not he lives up to and maintains his potential is to be seen. He's on track though. But he's def a generational talent. AD too. Both of those guys > Blake as far as ceiling go, imo. I don't ever see Blake having the same impact on defense these guys have.
 
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DMan14 said:
GK gonna turn it around. it's better than their current situation. i've said this before about him, first round exits > annual lottery team.

but in the end...mike malone shouldve never got vivik'd
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but they should have done it two months ago when they were 11-13. At least then Karl could maybe work his mid-season magic and challenge for the 8th seed.
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other than Vivek being a lunatic/Pete being a puppet.... there is no logical reason to why it went down the way it went down.

Straight up crazy ****.
 
Does George Karl hired to take over Sacramento?

... remind anybody of Rick Adelman being hired to take over Minnesota?

Team in a small market.

Team in small market has a hope -- its star player.

Team in small market knows it needs to prove to that hope that it's going somewhere, need to give him established talent and if not talent... coach.
 
N.B.A. Is Having an All-Star Party This Weekend (and You’re Not Invited)


The N.B.A. is doing just fine these days. The game is in the hands of immensely popular stars like LeBron James and Kevin Durant. New contenders, like the Golden State Warriors and the Atlanta Hawks, have added appealing story lines to the regular season. And the league’s owners will soon be reaping the benefits of a new television contract that will pay out $2.66 billion a year, nearly triple the amount of the current deal.

Now come the N.B.A.’s annual All-Star Game festivities, which are taking place in New York City this week and serve as a sustained advertisement of the league’s appeal. What used to be a single afternoon exhibition has increasingly expanded into what is now a five-day happening, flush with fan festivals, open practices, a celebrity game, caravans to local schools and Manhattan fashion parties for the American sport most closely identified with personal style.

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Yet the best-known parts of the event are largely restricted. Tickets for the All-Star Game (on Sunday night at Madison Square Garden) and for the slam-dunk contest and other competitions (on Saturday evening at Barclays Center) were not made available for public sale for the fifth straight year. Only a small percentage of the seats were even offered for purchase by season-ticket holders of the two host teams, the Knicks and the Nets.

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AT&T Stadium, home of the Dallas Cowboys, was the site of the 2010 All-Star Game. Credit Tim Sharp/Associated Press
Fans, of course, can still buy tickets for Saturday and Sunday night from secondary-sale sites like StubHub. However, those prices have soared, averaging close to $2,000 per ticket this week, a lot more than they would have cost if purchased at face value.

In effect, the N.B.A. has created something of a closed-access party. Two-thirds of the available seating (or more than 10,000 tickets) for the events Saturday night and Sunday were claimed by the league to distribute to its long list of broadcast and marketing partners, other affiliates, players, the players’ association and N.B.A. alumni. Those commitments encompassed a vast portion of the lower sections of both arenas.

In addition, close to 20 percent of the seats in both arenas were claimed to accommodate production and staging needs for the TV broadcasts and to accommodate a large news media contingent.

The rest of the tickets? They were divided among the 30 N.B.A. teams to be distributed to fans and others, with the Knicks and the Nets getting special dispensation. The overall formula meant that average fans around the league, the ones who actually voted on who should be the starters in the All-Star Game, had virtually no chance of attending.

“If this was back in 1983, when the game was shown on tape delay, this would not be an issue,” said Bill Sutton, a sports marketing consultant, who worked for the N.B.A. from 1999 to 2006.

At the heart of the N.B.A.’s quandary is the issue of size. Major League Baseball’s All-Star Game, the most seriously competitive of such events, is also an automatic sellout, but fans have a chance to purchase tickets online because the games are held in far bigger stadiums. Unlike the N.B.A., Major League Baseball sees fit to claim only about a third of the All-Star tickets in a given stadium for its own use.

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Then there is the N.F.L., which presides over the most popular sport in the United States. It also has the biggest stadiums, which means its corporate needs take up less overall space than other sports; in the recent Super Bowl in Arizona, for example, the N.F.L. claimed just 25.2 percent of the tickets. (The N.F.L.’s all-star game, the Pro Bowl, has long been viewed as an afterthought, although the game did sell out this season.)

As for the N.H.L., the league most directly comparable to the N.B.A. because they share some of the same arenas and the same basic calendar, its All-Star Game requires that about 40 percent of the seats be delegated for league purposes, substantially less than the N.B.A.’s needs. Then again, the N.H.L. does not have as broad an appeal as the N.B.A.

And it is not only in recent years that the N.B.A. has created a featured event that is so hard to get into. In 2002, a month before Philadelphia was the home city for the N.B.A. All-Star Game, Ed Snider, the 76ers’ chairman at the time, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that he never again wanted to be the host because of the issues, and local resentment, created by the fact that there were so few tickets for his own fans. He said the league had given the 76ers 3,000 tickets to sell to a season-ticket base that numbered 15,000. Demand, he said, was overwhelming supply.

“People think it’s our game, but it’s the league’s game,” Snider, who sold the team in 2011, told The Inquirer. Through a spokesman, Snider declined to be interviewed for this article.

Joe Favorito, a former strategic communications adviser for the Knicks and the 76ers, a sports media consultant and a professor at Columbia, said the N.B.A.’s global draw, with television partners around the world, made an event like the All-Star Game something all sorts of corporate clients wanted to attend.

“It is a necessary evil,” he said of reserving so many seats for corporate interests. “It’s hard to justify making more tickets available to every fan when you’ve got corporations looking to spend a lot of money with you and grow the game.”

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Kobe Bryant being introduced at the 2010 All-Star Game, which he did not play in because of injury. Credit Eric Gay/Associated Press
As Sutton noted, the N.B.A. All-Star Game and its related events were not always this popular. The first full weekend was held in 1984, and David Stern, then the commissioner, fretted that attendance might be embarrassingly low when the new slam-dunk contest was held on Saturday night. Tickets went for just $2.

But the notion of a full weekend quickly caught on. That was no problem in 1989, when the All-Star Game took place at the Houston Astrodome and was watched live by an announced crowd of 44,735. Tickets could be had.

The next year, though, when the game returned to much smaller confines, at Miami Arena, the N.B.A. needed to do something about its promises to sponsors, licensees and teams. The league designated 5,000 of the arena’s 14,000 available seats to the Heat to distribute to season-ticket holders via a lottery. No tickets were sold publicly, showing how far back that practice extends.

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This strategy was bypassed in 2010, when the game was played at AT&T Stadium, the home of the Dallas Cowboys. With more than 100,000 seats available, there was enough space to accommodate the N.B.A., the Mavericks’ 10,000 season-ticket holders and any others who wanted to pay their way in.

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Asked this week whether the N.B.A. might schedule more All-Star Games at large venues to accommodate more fans, Tim Frank, a league spokesman, said it was not the model the N.B.A. preferred.

“In addition to allowing our host teams the best opportunity to showcase their arenas to a global audience, we like the intimate setting,” Frank said.

That leaves, at least in most years, the current system. As of Tuesday, 855 tickets for Sunday’s All-Star Game were available for purchase on the secondary market, and the average cost was $1,835, according to data compiled by TiqIQ, a site that analyzes ticket data. That was down from a high of $3,770 on Jan. 24. Tickets for the festivities Saturday night were averaging $2,556, with the cheapest tickets going for more than $500.

Tickets were made available to the public for Friday night’s Rising Stars game (for first-year and second-year N.B.A. players) at Barclays Center and for the celebrity game, the same night, at the Garden. Both events sold out quickly, and both are averaging close to $400 on the secondary market.

And if you just want to watch the All-Star teams practice Saturday afternoon at the Garden? Prepare to shell out at least $40.

One Knicks fan who will not be at the Garden on Sunday is Dennis Doyle, an ironman of sorts who has attended every one of the team’s games this season, home and away, despite the Knicks’ awful record.

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On Dec. 22, Doyle said, he received an email from his “dedicated experience manager” with the Knicks, who offered a chance to buy All-Star tickets.

He would be placed in a lottery, he was told, with other season-ticket subscribers, with tenure being a priority. Tickets would be available at two price levels, $250 and $350, but only in a few sections of the Garden. There would be no refunds.

A month later, Doyle was told he had missed out. Not enough tenure. That left secondary ticket sites. Too much money, Doyle concluded. Instead, he decided he would spend his All-Star break in Florida, where he could watch Saturday’s and Sunday’s big events on television. No ticket required.
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Y'all are mad at Melo as if this is his idea? :lol: The Knicks' organization has planned this for months.
 
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WavyCrocket said:
Naw..good young player. But far from Genrational. KD and Bron are genrational talents. Those guys are rarities.
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He's the best center in the league and he's 24.


He almost got a triple double the other night because his team has the corpse of Ramon Sessions as his pg then goes for 28/18/5/4.


How is he not a generational talent?


Big men with amazing footwork, ball handling, passing ability, mid range jumpers, and athleticism who are 6'11 270 do not come around ever.

Hopefully with a stable coaching situation he can realize his true potential.
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To me thats just a great player

A generational talent is a guy who within a couple of years, perennial All Star starts, All-NBA selections, Finals appearances, MVP consideration become your expectations for that player

I dont know if a lot people have those expectations for Boogie
 
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Mister Friendly said:
To me thats just a great player

A generational talent is a guy who within a couple of years, perennial All Star starts, All-NBA selections, Finals appearances, MVP consideration become your expectations for that player

I dont know if a lot people have those expectations for Boogie
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Okay, Melo is generation talent, I don't know what you guys are on. It's just he was a crap team player and basically a team cancer. Anthony Davis is a generational player. Young Dwight Howard was. I'm not 100% sure about Cousins, but maybe. 
 
The quote is from Enes Kanter's agent, talking about Enes Kanter lol

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"He's one of the most dominant players of his generation. If he wasn't, Kevin O'Connor wouldn't have selected him with number 3 pick" Ergul
 
dmbrhs said:
The quote is from Enes Kanter's agent, talking about Enes Kanter lol

Austin Horton ‏@austinhorton
"He's one of the most dominant players of his generation. If he wasn't, Kevin O'Connor wouldn't have selected him with number 3 pick" Ergul
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Right. Following in the footsteps of other dominant very high draft picks like Kwame Brown, Mike Beasley and Anthony Bennett.
 
From Mark Stein...


With the NBA trade deadline now just one week away, it's time to dribble through the latest gossip as we inch toward next Thursday's 3 p.m. buzzer for deals:

Brook Lopez. Reggie Jackson. Arron Afflalo.

When you survey general managers, those are the names that come up most frequently when you ask for the biggest names likely to move before the deadline.

But there's a reason for that.

Don't forget that we've seen quite a bit of trade action already, with Boston shipping out both Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green, and LeBron James' Cavaliers swinging separate deals to acquire Timofey Mozgov and two former Knicks in Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith.



The Nuggets, widely regarded as the team most aggressively trying to clean house, have made a number of players available this month.

Afflalo, Jameer Nelson and Randy Foye, sources say, are all in play. The price for Afflalo, though, is said to be high, with Denver seeking at least one future first-round pick in exchange for the swingman, who holds a $7.5 million player option for next season that will allow Afflalo to either become a free agent or continue for one more season at his current salary.

Most rival teams nonetheless see Afflalo as more likely to be dealt before the deadline than Wilson Chandler, with Denver's demands for Chandler said to be even higher. Nuggets general manager Tim Connelly is known to be a Chandler fan, leading to the belief that the former Knicks player is the on short list of players Denver isn't shopping these days alongside Ty Lawson, Kenneth Faried and rookie sensation Jusuf Nurkic.

As ESPN.com first reported recently, Denver's offer to Brooklyn for Lopez -- J.J. Hickson, JaVale McGee and one of the two first-round picks it acquired from Cleveland for Mozgov -- has been repeatedly rejected by the Nets.



Orlando, thanks to a surplus of young big men, has made Andrew Nicholson available, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that the Magic are working with Nicholson's agent, Mark Bartelstein, to find a new home for the 25-year-old Canadian, who was selected 19th overall by the Magic in the 2012 NBA draft.

ESPN.com reported last month that Bartelstein is likewise working with the Phoenix Suns to find a workable trade for big man Miles Plumlee.



Word is the Celtics intend to keep Tayshaun Prince through next week's deadline to see if they can make use of Prince's $7.7 million salary in yet another trade. Only after the deadline passes, sources say, does Boston plan to seriously engage Prince in buyout discussions.

Brandon Bass and Marcus Thornton are two more Celtics who can be made available, as Boston continues to seek to shed salary and stockpile draft picks for the future.
 
bartleby929 said:
Mister Friendly said:
To me thats just a great player


A generational talent is a guy who within a couple of years, perennial All Star starts, All-NBA selections, Finals appearances, MVP consideration become your expectations for that player


I dont know if a lot people have those expectations for Boogie
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Okay, Melo is generation talent, I don't know what you guys are on. It's just he was a crap team player and basically a team cancer. Anthony Davis is a generational player. Young Dwight Howard was. I'm not 100% sure about Cousins, but maybe. 
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See I am not sure if all that stuff applies to Carmelo Anthony

Like after a couple of years were people still projecting all that stuff for him?
 
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awwsome said:
WavyCrocket said:
Naw..good young player. But far from Genrational. KD and Bron are genrational talents. Those guys are rarities.
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He's the best center in the league and he's 24.


He almost got a triple double the other night because his team has the corpse of Ramon Sessions as his pg then goes for 28/18/5/4.


How is he not a generational talent?


Big men with amazing footwork, ball handling, passing ability, mid range jumpers, and athleticism who are 6'11 270 do not come around ever.

Hopefully with a stable coaching situation he can realize his true potential.
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Generational talents aren't on teams that bad this far into their careers
 
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