The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

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leemelone said:
What gets lost in all the love slander is that kyrie also had a rep as an empty stats guy
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Love got a grabage minnesota team to 40 wins in the western conference, they would have made the playoffs in the east, Kyrie is way more of empty stats guy.

Kyrie is essentially a polite version of Stpehon Marbury.
 
Osh Kosh Bosh said:
The idea that Kyrie would ever become as good as Dwayne Wade seems insane to me.
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This, and I'm a HUGE Kyrie fan. I'm projecting Kyrie's best season to be something like 25-7-4, on around 47% shooting and 38% from deep. Don't feel like looking up DWade's best year, it was all of that if not better except for 3P%. Plus Wade is one of best defensive guards ever, which is something kyrie will never be able to say.

Quite frankly, the whole notion that kyrie would be the new Flash was asinine. DWade has always been a slashing, cut to the basket type player. Kyrie is an iso-ball handler who excels at shooting. Bron used to drive, Wade would cut to the basket because the D would collapse and left the lane open. When Bron drives now, Kyrie is just standing there. Big difference.
 
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he also should not have gotten a sig shoe from nike, but kind of funny how his sig is already better than any kd sig
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really? kyries shoes are better than the kds? are you talking looks or performance-wise cuz i heard they were knockoff KDs and my lebron Xs finally crapped out on me last night
 
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Jeff green trade happened already? :nerd: I'm honestly just holding up till the OSU vs Oregon game :lol:
 
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Al3xis said:
Alpha Wade also got placed in the 2011 Finals after 18 points on 40% shooting and 4 turnovers a game performance in the Conference Finals.

Alpha Wade hadn't won a playoff series in 2007, 2008, 2009 or 2010. And soon to be 2015 again.

He was a very good 2nd and at times 3rd option. They don't win without him. Too bad more of his career couldn't be spent in that role.
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Wade championships without LeBron: 1
Lebron championships without Wade: 0


Now that LeBron is no longer a member of the Heat, I can understand why so many weren't a fan of his supporters so to speak. LeBron never won anything until he linked up with Dwayne Wade no matter how you want to cut it. No matter how many playoff series Wade didn't win in whatever years you want to list.

The fact is LeBron in the midst of all this "LeBron carried them for 4 years", he needed a Mario Chalmers 24 point game, a Mike Miller 6 3s in a closeout game, a Shane Battier not missing in a closeout Game, Chris Bosh stepping up and grabbing rebounds, Ray Allen hitting 3 pointers, Norris Cole being a spark of the bench, a "2nd option" DWade being very good. There's no need to prop up LeBron James to admire his greatness at the expense of what his teammates actually were contributing. When his teams are doing great, LeBron is the reason, when his teams aren't, it somehow always seems to be everyone else's fault.
 
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Mr Cashfl0w said:
Wade championships without LeBron: 1
Lebron championships without Wade: 0


Now that LeBron is no longer a member of the Heat, I can understand why so many weren't a fan of his supporters so to speak. LeBron never won anything until he linked up with Dwayne Wade no matter how you want to cut it. No matter how many playoff series Wade didn't win in whatever years you want to list.

The fact is LeBron in the midst of all this "LeBron carried them for 4 years", he needed a Mario Chalmers game, a Mike Miller game, a Shane Battier Game, Chris Bosh stepping up, Ray Allen hitting 3 pointers, Norris Cole being a spark of the bench, a "2nd option" DWade being very good. There's no need to prop up LeBron James to admire his greatness at the expense of what his teammates actually were contributing. When his teams are doing great, LeBron is the reason, when his teams aren't, it somehow always seems to be everyone else's fault.
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Yikes :x
 
It's gonna be one of those days in here today huh?
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Lebron and wade we're I par with each other that 2011 year until the finals. Once that L was taken LeBron knew he had to take over and wade still played good ball that 2012 year
 
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sea manup said:
 
he also should not have gotten a sig shoe from nike, but kind of funny how his sig is already better than any kd sig
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really? kyries shoes are better than the kds? are you talking looks or performance-wise cuz i heard they were knockoff KDs and my lebron Xs finally crapped out on me last night
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havent tried them on yet, but all kd shoes look ugly and cheap kyries shoe actually looks pretty good

people that ive talked to say kd's feel stiff and if you're looking to play in lows then just get kobes

lebrons recent shoes have been hella ugly and so heavy i could complete the water temple in them 
 
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Mr Cashfl0w said:
Wade championships without LeBron: 1
Lebron championships without Wade: 0


Now that LeBron is no longer a member of the Heat, I can understand why so many weren't a fan of his supporters so to speak. LeBron never won anything until he linked up with Dwayne Wade no matter how you want to cut it. No matter how many playoff series Wade didn't win in whatever years you want to list.

The fact is LeBron in the midst of all this "LeBron carried them for 4 years", he needed a Mario Chalmers game, a Mike Miller game, a Shane Battier Game, Chris Bosh stepping up, Ray Allen hitting 3 pointers, Norris Cole being a spark of the bench, a "2nd option" DWade being very good. There's no need to prop up LeBron James to admire his greatness at the expense of what his teammates actually were contributing. When his teams are doing great, LeBron is the reason, when his teams aren't, it somehow always seems to be everyone else's fault.
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Mr Cashfl0w said:
Wade championships without LeBron: 1
Lebron championships without Wade: 0


Now that LeBron is no longer a member of the Heat, I can understand why so many weren't a fan of his supporters so to speak. LeBron never won anything until he linked up with Dwayne Wade no matter how you want to cut it. No matter how many playoff series Wade didn't win in whatever years you want to list.

The fact is LeBron in the midst of all this "LeBron carried them for 4 years", he needed a Mario Chalmers 24 point game, a Mike Miller 6 3s in a closeout game, a Shane Battier not missing in a closeout Game, Chris Bosh stepping up and grabbing rebounds, Ray Allen hitting 3 pointers, Norris Cole being a spark of the bench, a "2nd option" DWade being very good. There's no need to prop up LeBron James to admire his greatness at the expense of what his teammates actually were contributing. When his teams are doing great, LeBron is the reason, when his teams aren't, it somehow always seems to be everyone else's fault.
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:rofl: You can put up a scenario about that for damn near EVERYONE that has won a ring.
 
***** with that Wade has 1 ring without Lebron nonsense.

That 2006 finals was the biggest screw job of all time in all of sports.

Take away that bogus 2006 finals and the rings lebron won for him and he is just another Iverson
 
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Mr Cashfl0w said:
Wade championships without LeBron: 1
Lebron championships without Wade: 0


Now that LeBron is no longer a member of the Heat, I can understand why so many weren't a fan of his supporters so to speak. LeBron never won anything until he linked up with Dwayne Wade no matter how you want to cut it. No matter how many playoff series Wade didn't win in whatever years you want to list.

The fact is LeBron in the midst of all this "LeBron carried them for 4 years", he needed a Mario Chalmers 24 point game, a Mike Miller 6 3s in a closeout game, a Shane Battier not missing in a closeout Game, Chris Bosh stepping up and grabbing rebounds, Ray Allen hitting 3 pointers, Norris Cole being a spark of the bench, a "2nd option" DWade being very good. There's no need to prop up LeBron James to admire his greatness at the expense of what his teammates actually were contributing. When his teams are doing great, LeBron is the reason, when his teams aren't, it somehow always seems to be everyone else's fault.
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No, not not doing this, because I think I've been plenty fair to the Heat over those 4 years. I actually liked Rio. I thought Mike Miller swung the Bulls series in 2011 and UD bailed them out in spots vs Indiana. Norris Cole sparked their run in G4 vs OKC. They don't play as well over 2013-2014 without Birdman, he changed the dynamic of their team. Bosh was damn good for all 4 years despite anything anyone said. And Spo, to me, was awesome for LeBron. (And I have those 4 years memorized down to minute regular season games - and there are more than enough examples to counter the 'moments' - from Chalmers not scoring in double figures for 14 straight playoff games to Battier getting benched to Ray Allen no-showing vs Indiana, but it was a net positive overall, for sure.)

Wade was needed, too. But - He was along for a ride that made him relevant when his body was about to break down and could no longer carry the load for a team, he got to settle into a secondary role and be put on a 'maintenance' plan. He had his cake and ate it too. Good for him. I never bought it. And this is when he went from someone that *some* people thought would last longer than LeBron and was if not his equal, maybe the better of the two (such things were said). It was never close and was proved over time.

Btw, back to the original point - Kyrie isn't in Wade's ballpark, if that matters. And Bosh > Love. And I think LeBron is fading and he very well may not win again. Prime LeBron is as good as I've ever seen and some people reaped the benefits more than others. That's all.
 
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shatterkneesinc said:
***** with that Wade has 1 ring without Lebron nonsense.

That 2006 finals was the biggest screw job of all time in all of sports.

Take away that bogus 2006 finals and the rings lebron won for him and he is just another Iverson
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or...not? wade is another iverson? iverson is one of the greatest players at his position who somehow couldnt get it done? thats who u compare wade to? your knees are shattered from slurping lebron so long.

*ban hammer in 3....2....
 
Forget what this argument is about.

Kyrie vs Wade?
Lebron vs Wade?
Iverson vs Wade?
2006 finals?
Lebron with and without Wade?

Which one
 
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