2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

This summer, if the chance comes, Love, Rondo, Neither, or Both?

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the whole point of these threads is to have debates though

if you dont agree with cp's paragraph about kevin love then reply with a paragraph on why kevin love sucks

life would be boring if everyone agreed with eachother 
 
CP1708 said:
PMatic said:
I knew things would balance themselves out and I shouldn't be that worked up over it, but those late, comeback wins vs the Spurs, Rockets, Pacers really irk me. :lol:
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Don't forget the OT wins over the Raptors and Bulls, or the fact we somehow managed to beat both the Warriors, and the Hawks. :stoneface:


Those are 4-5-6-7 EASY losses we could have. We'd be sitting pretty right now in the #1 spot, and we'd be guaranteed a top 3-4 pick already.


We could have been a 10-12 win team, for the whole year, if not for those games. :smh:
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This is the post that set LTB off. THIS post, has him all upset and talkin about positive reinforcement and ****.


Yeah, I'm mad at me for this post. :lol: :smokin
 
this is ltb's way of showing disapproval for cp's lack of creative thread polls this year 
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LoveHateSelf said:
only way dudes will come off that bickering is when/if Mitch and Co make a move...
oh wait
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Amen to that.


Former Los Angeles Lakers star Magic Johnson said he has serious questions about whether Jim Buss can turn around the team, which is mired in the worst period in franchise history.

"Jim is trying to do it himself and trying to prove to everybody that this was the right decision that [his] dad gave [him] the reins," Johnson said Tuesday on ESPN's "First Take." "He's not consulting anybody that can help him achieve his goals and dreams to win an NBA championship."

Buss became the Lakers' executive vice president of basketball operations -- the top person on the basketball decision-making side -- after his father, legendary owner Jerry Buss, died in February 2013.

However, the past two Lakers seasons have been filled with tumult. The team posted a franchise-high 55 losses last season and, at 13-39 after Tuesday night's loss to the Denver Nuggets, is on pace to lose even more games this season.

Magic Johnson said Kobe Bryant should tell Lakers executive vice president Jim Buss he needs to significantly upgrade the roster this offseason, or else risk losing his star player.
Johnson believes Buss should give general manager Mitch Kupchak more control.

"If Jim would say, 'OK, Mitch. You run the show,' I think it would be a lot better for the Lakers, too. Mitch Kupchak knows what he's doing. He's great. He's smart. He's hard-working. He's at every practice. I think the fans would feel good [if he ran the team] as well," Johnson said.

Johnson, who has been an outspoken critic of Jim Buss since the Lakers hired Mike D'Antoni as coach over Phil Jackson in 2012, called this upcoming offseason the "biggest" of Buss' life.

"If he doesn't have a big summer with a free agent," Johnson said, "it looks like they'll have a good draft pick. Put that together with a good free agent, you can be right back into the mix. If this summer, that doesn't happen where they can sign a great player, it's over for us."

The Lakers will have enough salary-cap space to sign at least one max-level free agent this summer, and several big names loom, including Marc Gasol, LaMarcus Aldridge, Goran Dragic and Rajon Rondo.

Later, in an appearance on Stephen A. Smith's SiriusXM/Mad Dog Sports Radio show, Johnson again questioned Buss, although this time he did so while referencing Lakers star Kobe Bryant.

"And I really believe this: [Kobe] should ... say to Jim and them, 'Look, if you don't sign one of these free agents [this offseason], man, I'm just not going to play next year,'" Johnson said.

Bryant's contract expires after the 2015-16 season.

Smith then asked Johnson whether he would advise Bryant to retire if the Lakers don't acquire a marquee free agent in the summer of 2015.

"You almost gotta say that because if you come back with the same level of talent, you're just going to have the same results," Johnson said. "You know, so, look, Kobe, put pressure on Jim to say, 'Look, man, you've got to bring me some talent, some help, so that this can be a great season for the Lakers and a great season for me, being my last season, and then I can retire.'"

Lakers coach Byron Scott defended Buss before Tuesday's game.

"I've been with Jim now since July," he said. "I haven't spent a ton of time with him, but the guy has an unbelievable passion for this game and this organization. I know he wants this thing to work out extremely well, like we all do. So I didn't read or hear [Johnson's] comments and really can't comment on that, but I do know Jim is going to do everything he can in his power to get this organization back to where it should be. We both, and myself included, and him and Mitch and [president] Jeanie [Buss], all feel this is a championship organization, and that's what we're trying to get back to."

Scott said he has talked to Johnson seven or eight times throughout the season, and those conversations weren't focused on basketball.

"He's been just like we all are; he understands the process that we've got to go through this right now," Scott said. "What I did read a little bit this afternoon, it's a big summer. And I think everybody feels that way."

Johnson, in his remarks on "First Take," also tried to shoot down the notion that his criticism is an effort to gain influence within the Lakers' organization.

"He's mad at me because I criticize him," Johnson said of Jim Buss. "Then he's like, 'Magic is trying to get a job with the Lakers. Magic is trying to bring me down.' No, I'm not. I'm telling the truth about the situation and trying to make us better and trying to get us into a winning situation in terms of back to being relevant. So you get mad at me when I tell the truth."

Johnson reiterated that he is close with Buss' sister Jeanie.

"Dr. [Jerry] Buss raised Jeanie and I up together," Johnson said. "When Jeanie went to USC business school, he was bringing us along together. Jim was not part of the Lakers. He never really saw our championship years. Jim was doing his own thing.

"He came back later on, and Dr. Buss knew he wanted the kids to decide later on to run the basketball side because Jeanie was definitely going to run the business side. I like Jim as a person. But at the same time, a great CEO or person who is in a powerful position will surround himself or put together a team to help them achieve their goals and dreams. Jim has not done that."
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:smh:

Mitch and Jim work side by side every day, I don't even get what Magic is saying. And Kobe should threaten to sit out, his final year, if they don't sign a free agent? :lol: :lol:
 
sea manup said:
this is ltb's way of showing disapproval for cp's lack of creative thread polls this year :nerd:
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Man, this is a relevant poll, right before the trade deadline, then we see if everyone is of the same opinion they had, after the deadline. Like a 2-3 week poll each. And totally relevant to the team, and current situation. He can't be mad at that. :lol:
 
This thread is like Chernobol. Mutated and funky. Guys here writing eulogies and dissertations.
 
After this season, we are not going to be talking about tanking and how we should of lost this game or that game. Why not let it all out because for damn sure we are not going to be talking about tanking in the near future. Believe me, 99.9% of us here will be cheering for wins next season.
 
CP1708 said:
Agreed.

Come October, we all cheer wins once again.
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I will be cheering for a 10 game losing streak to start next season :smokin


...So we could fire Byron :smh: :stoneface:

and have Kobe end his career on game #82 not in January
 
CP1708 said:
What would you like me to have a problem with how I post? I should be mad at myself for saying the GS, Atlanta, Toronto, and Bulls wins we have irk me? I should be mad at me, for saying that? On Niketalk? In the Laker thread?

What else should I be mad at me for? :lol:
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Here is what I will say and this will be the last time I post on this...

You have a very arrogant way of posting. Like you truly just know everything that is best for this franchise.

You make slick comments sometimes (not all the time) that make it seem as if people aren't on the same level as you because they don't agree with the things you are saying.

Talking about past seasons I understand...but there are just certain things (and not everyone feels the same way I do but) that there is no value out of talking about any more.

There is no value in talking about Kobe's contract any more. Dumb move shouldn't have happened.

No value in talking about Nick's Contract.

Win's or losses this year...end of the day we don't even control if we get the number 1 pick. It's a lottery. So one or two wins here and there won't cost us the number pick. The luck of the draw will tell us what pick we have.

I could ignore you...but why? There are times where you post information that is VERY useful. When it comes to cap stuff and draft picks I would ask you first. So ignoring you doesn't solve the problem.

All I'm saying is sometimes your tactics can be annoying. I'm not even asking you to change.

Just realize sometimes you can be annoying. Just like everyone (me included) can be.

I told you in the summer we would always be good after the Melo/Tanking battle we had.

So ignoring you? You aren't getting off that easy....LOL
 
Bro, I used to have "I'm a douchebox" in my signature.

I have zero concern if I sometimes post arrogant, always do, never do, kinda do, don't or other. I post same way today, I did in 07.

There's no secret here. Why I'm hearin **** in 2015, beyond me. :lol: :lol:
 
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Kookcle said:
CP1708 said:
and have Kobe end his career on game #82
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Why he can't end his career in the playoffs? :nerd: :wink:
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That would be amazing.

Just be ready for him to comeback again

" Playoff basketball got my competitive juices flowing again i think this young team needs me" - Kobe Bryant May 2016

1 year $28M ?

:lol:
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Man, don't joke like that. Kobe, Jim, Jeanie, Mitch, somebody might see it. :smh:

:lol:
 
tupac003 said:
Here is what I will say and this will be the last time I post on this...

You have a very arrogant way of posting. Like you truly just know everything that is best for this franchise.

You make slick comments sometimes (not all the time) that make it seem as if people aren't on the same level as you because they don't agree with the things you are saying.

Talking about past seasons I understand...but there are just certain things (and not everyone feels the same way I do but) that there is no value out of talking about any more.

There is no value in talking about Kobe's contract any more. Dumb move shouldn't have happened.

No value in talking about Nick's Contract.

Win's or losses this year...end of the day we don't even control if we get the number 1 pick. It's a lottery. So one or two wins here and there won't cost us the number pick. The luck of the draw will tell us what pick we have.

I could ignore you...but why? There are times where you post information that is VERY useful. When it comes to cap stuff and draft picks I would ask you first. So ignoring you doesn't solve the problem.

All I'm saying is sometimes your tactics can be annoying. I'm not even asking you to change.

Just realize sometimes you can be annoying. Just like everyone (me included) can be.

I told you in the summer we would always be good after the Melo/Tanking battle we had.

So ignoring you? You aren't getting off that easy....LOL
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That Danny Amendola rant.
 
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