2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

[senorroboto2k5]

Dudes wanna tank and then blame the coach for the team being trash

Wrong.

Dudes wanna blame the coach for being a trash coach.

The team is trash, and separately, the coach is also trash. We're not saying that because of the wins and losses, we're saying that because of his actions and decisions.

 

[jab step]

 

Because in the battle of results vs development, Byron is miserably failing at both.

Who on this roster is even worth developing other than Clarkson? And Scott gave him the green light

Scott not tryna win or lose games, his only focus is developing Jordan Clarkson

It's beyond a trash roster and I'm serious. That's definitely a valid point, but it's not an excuse for the type of basketball you're seeing out there. 

The offensive sets are horrendous. At least last year you saw a lot of players put in easier positions. Last years roster probably had less talent than this years roster. Actually I'm pretty sure of it. And for the majority of the season he had our slow bigs hedging hard and showing on defense. On top of that he seemed to want to give up 3 point shots over midrange shots/post ups on defense. He's doing exactly what the opposing team wants. 

That's not even getting into managing Kobe's minutes and making the game easier for him. Also the players left over from last year having much worse seasons. 

I don't want to sound like I'm whining, I'm just being realistic. For this team to go anywhere it needs a much better coach. I do understand the market for coaches was small this summer, so I hope they go after someone new possibly and that they have someone in mind. 

 

[pmatic]

Because in the battle of results vs development, Byron is miserably failing at both.

Who on this roster is even worth developing other than Clarkson? And Scott gave him the green light

Scott not tryna win or lose games, his only focus is developing Jordan Clarkson

Kelly and Black (and Sacre to a lesser extent) are worth taking a look at.

Even if they end up being just 10-11-12th guys on the bench, that's something for the future.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

We would win more games with clarkson playing in the 4th. He's the best player on the team right now

 

[MVP]

Really? He played in the 4th yesterday and we lost. As good as he may be he's not one that has a particular skillset that lends him to getting hot like Ellington has done multiple times this season. And regardless he's part of the future plans anyway so he should be playing.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I didn't say we'd win every game dude. Is he not the best player right now? Clarkson davis and black would probably hurt the tank more than anything

 

[MVP]

Every team full of young guys getting significant minutes says you're wrong but cook on man.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Yes just like vs Utah. Clarkson shot 63% from the field and 42% from 3 during the 3 game win streak compared to ellington at 38% and 33%. But clarkson should play more to put the team in a better position to lose. Yea, let me cook g

 

[mosk33toe]

Dudes wanna tank and then blame the coach for the team being trash

Enough with the foolishness, get Jeanie on my line do we can discuss trading these picks for Boogie

I'm so confused, y'all cry when we get 3 straight wins, but want MDA, because he could have done more with this team?

MDA wasn't going to win us a championship. And for all the posts about how MDA made all these guys ball out, I don't hear anybody taking about how poorly he utilized Pau. Pau having a career year, but MDA wanted him to shoot 3s...

 

[pmatic]

Again, he and the Lakers were trying to cater to Dwight. Not to mention his post game fell off a cliff the last few years.

 

[MVP]

All that needs to be said about MDA is that he's unemployed right now, if he was that good somebody besides the Stanford women would have wanted his services.

 

[pmatic]

Three single-digit losses in a row for Minnesota.

 

[CP1708]

Mike wanted 2 years. This year which he was on and the year after (team option).... And they said no.

There were also no good options either. Ollie wasn't leaving UConn for anyone. Kerr wasn't going to come here (only looked at Knicks and tentively agreed because of Phil), and a better playoff team with a good future was looking at him.

Fisher?

Mark Jackson? Or how about Kurt Rambis?

Or maybe your guy George Karl?

Sometimes the answer forces you to look at the equation. May have been a **** reason to hire Byron but you have similar results in every other choice. A guy who stinks or someone who may be decent but will be gone in a couple of years anyway.

It's literally staring you in the face.

They agreed to have him back this year.

He wanted ONE option year picked up. A nothing risk/price tag.

They chose this piece of **** coach, over a single option year.

Bottom line.

 

[laker4lifeman]

Being stuck with Byron for 3 years

 

[MVP]

They aren't stuck with him, if a better option comes along, I would like to think they'd have no problem moving Byron along maybe into an administrative role to save face.

 

[laker4lifeman]

I hope so I don't want to be like the Raiders looking for a new coach every 2 years.

 

[essential1]

It's literally staring you in the face.

They agreed to have him back this year.

He wanted ONE option year picked up. A nothing risk/price tag.

They chose this piece of **** coach, over a single option year.

Bottom line.

They didn't want to commit to him... We all knew he was a place holder by the time Kobe came back and hurt his knee. Right or wrong move, we knew that was the case.

Also, he didn't get all of his money for this season. So they saved about $5mil of what would have been $8mil if he coached '14-15 & they picked up '15-16.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

develop Ryan No Feet Kelly and Bobby Sacre?

The Black kid is a decent late season pickup. Scott is developing who he needs to develop. A quick, athletic, attack the rim PG. It's just crazy that dudes expect to be good and have a top 5 pick all in the same season. Shows how crazy some of you are going

U look at the roster and the second best player is a 6th man in Nick Young and even he's been hurt all season. Roster stinks, let JC make plays and get his feet wet and ride the losses.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Didn't mda basically quit before finishing his contract? He had a year left, wanted an extra year, couldn't get it so he parted ways. Or am I mistaken

 

[essential1]

Didn't mda basically quit before finishing his contract? He had a year left, wanted an extra year, couldn't get it so he parted ways. Or am I mistaken

Pretty much. It was guaranteed through this year. But had an option. He wanted the Lakers to guarantee his option. They said no... So he quit.

Lakers paid him a bit over $2mil of the $4mil he was supposed to get this season.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Right so basically if they liked what he would have done in his last guaranteed year they would have picked up the option or extended him. Same way you handle a player's contract for the most part

 

[CP1708]

You don't coach in a final year. (Unless you're Phil)

Nick Young isn't gonna listen to a coach who might be out in X number of months.
Boozer.
Hill.
Lin.

Etc. Lame duck coach. You can't work that way.

MDA says pick up the option, he can call shots with FO having backed him. After the year, they can fire him if they want, no big. But perception to the players exist.

Saving a couple mil, to then pay a far worse coach, who they will have to fire, and still pay anyways, instead of paying one, single, year, is yet more short term illogical thinking.

4 mil, for the better coach, and a sense of stability >>>>>>>>>>>> 4 years of paying Byron, no stability, and looking even more foolish.


A single, year.



(Granted, Scott is working out for tanking purposes, but he's also wasting our time not teaching things a better coach could, that's wasted time for the young guys)

 

[darthska]

All that needs to be said about MDA is that he's unemployed right now, if he was that good somebody besides the Stanford women would have wanted his services.

Logic.

 

[noblekane]

Man if only sac would take our two first rounders for cousins [emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128077[/emoji][emoji]128556[/emoji][emoji]128529[/emoji]

Only in a dream

 

[orsrt8]

This dude still trying to make a case for MDA.
He was a terrible coach. Get over it already. We get it that he's your personal favorite but doesn't mean that he's a good coach. All his teams fail to make it anywhere and sure they score a lot of points but they are always poor defensively and they give up a hell of a lot of points as well. This dude wanted to have an All Star starting Center coming of the bench. That says enough about him to me. The city of Los Angeles rejoiced the day he was fired.

The post above mine says it all. If he was so good why isn't he coaching now?