2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

[senorroboto2k5]

Well...

Hardwood Paroxysm ‏@HPbasketball
Magic Johnson in August: "If I don't see another three-pointer from this Lakers team I'll be happy." http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...ill-improve-because-theyll-shoot-fewer-threes …

 

[CP1708]

Disgusting.

 

[grandtheftbike]

No dambs, time to expand the court to 4 pointers

 

[MVP]

Shouldn't the pro tank guys be happy with Scott's philosophy since it's the antithesis of winning games?

 

[senorroboto2k5]

I'm not complaining too much... just appreciating the stupidity.

The only thing I'm unhappy about is his handling of Julius Randle so far, though I'm not sure if he was benched yesterday for his blisters (or Byron trying to teach him another tough lesson).

 

[kal-el-8]

I'm not complaining too much... just appreciating the stupidity.

The only thing I'm unhappy about is his handling of Julius Randle so far, though I'm not sure if he was benched yesterday for his blisters (or Byron trying to teach him another tough lesson).

He's gonna kill Julius' confidence.

 

[essential1]

Soooo are we ranking Byron below Mike Brown at this point?

 

[kal-el-8]

Soooo are we ranking Byron below Mike Brown at this point?

 

[grandtheftbike]

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For guys like Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters, this is their third different coach in as many seasons. Such changes bring new systems to learn, so when Irving was asked Friday if David Blatt’s free-flowing offense has any similarities to the Princeton system Byron Scott tried implementing two years ago, Irving couldn’t remember.
“I kind of just remember my isolation plays, if I had to be selfish about it,” Irving laughed before dismissing the challenges of learning so many systems in his brief four-year career.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/cav...tery-system-vote-expected-this-month-1.528592

 

[sb]

Shouldn't the pro tank guys be happy with Scott's philosophy since it's the antithesis of winning games?

there is pro tank and being stupid. scott is just being stupid with his approach.

 

[MVP]

And just wondering, if shooting 3s is more conducive to winning, why was MDA being defended last year when that's all he told the guys to do and the same guys wanted to tank?

Maybe Byron has gotten the orders to keep the pick...

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[kal-el-8]

And just wondering, if shooting 3s is more conducive to winning, why was MDA being defended last year when that's all he told the guys to do and the same guys wanted to tank?

Maybe Byron has gotten the orders to keep the pick...

Byron did say today that when guys are healthy, they'd shoot about 12-15 threes a game.

 

[grandtheftbike]

And just wondering, if shooting 3s is more conducive to winning, why was MDA being defended last year when that's all he told the guys to do and the same guys wanted to tank?

da develop b.

 

[senorroboto2k5]

And just wondering, if shooting 3s is more conducive to winning, why was MDA being defended last year when that's all he told the guys to do and the same guys wanted to tank?

Maybe Byron has gotten the orders to keep the pick...

Shooting 3's isn't always more conductive to winning, but limiting them to this extent is definitely conductive to losing.

As for MDA... his system probably did produce a few extra wins, especially early in the season. That's anti-tank. But most of the MDA defending has been about defending his coaching ability, not his tanking.

 

[CP1708]

Shouldn't the pro tank guys be happy with Scott's philosophy since it's the antithesis of winning games?

No doubt, I am thankful this idiot is going to help us keep our picks, but in the meantime, he isn't teaching our young guys a damn thing except how to be ******* ******ed. That, annoys me.

 

[CP1708]

Soooo are we ranking Byron below Mike Brown at this point?

We got anything lower? I'm not even an MB fan, but we need to drop Scott even further than that, where can I go with that? Magic?

 

[essential1]

2013-14:
Spurs - 21.4
Heat - 22.3

2012-13:
Spurs - 21.5
Heat - 22.1

2011-12
Thunder - 21.0
Heat - 15.6

2010-11
Mavs - 21.6
Heat- 18.0

2009-10
Lakers - 19.0
Celtics - 17.5

2008-09
Lakers - 18.5
Magic - 26.2

2007-08
Lakers - 21.4
Celtics - 19.1



Exception of 2011-12 Heat (let's face it they had 3 of the top 20 players, so they could have made the finals no matter how they played), each team shoots a lot of 3s, typically top 12.

 

[essential1]

Soooo are we ranking Byron below Mike Brown at this point?

We got anything lower? I'm not even an MB fan, but we need to drop Scott even further than that, where can I go with that? Magic?

Frank Hamblen

 

[bravelude]

Anthony Hopkins tho.

What kids do not understand is the fact that LA had size, and MDA did not go with that. Instead, he faded him team by wanting shots jacked from clowns like Nick Young and NBDL players. Basically went with low percentage shots above all else, which lead to showtime fast break by opposing teams.

Scott, like I said is just a puppet. His job has been to fade DAntoni. Unless, he has a secret plan, I am glad he at least has his team listening. I would say he is more harsh than Brown. Brown was a clown, all he did was smile and unbotton his suit and put his hands around his belly and walk up m down sidelines.

 

[pmatic]

Scott: Lakers won't rely on the 3-pointer

Three-pointers are in. They’ve been in for a while, too. NBA teams are firing from long range more than ever – a record 21.5 3-point attempts per game last season, which broke the record set the season before that (20), which broke the record set the season before that (18.4). You get the picture.

That figure has steadily risen through the years since the NBA introduced the 3-point shot in the 1979-80 season, but it has skyrocketed of late, especially as advanced statistics have shown it to be a more efficient option on offense, particularly if taken from the corner.

But the Los Angeles Lakers are bucking that trend, at least so far in the preseason. Through four exhibition games, they’re averaging about seven 3-point attempts and have made just six of 29.

Worse: the Lakers have shot 1-for-19 from long range in their last three games, including going 0-for-8 in their last two.

Even worse: the Lakers haven’t made a 3-point shot since the first quarter of their second preseason game – an 11½-quarter drought.

ESPN.com’s Tom Haberstroh also found that there are 24 players who have made more 3-pointers this preseason than the entire Lakers team.

Though first-year Lakers head coach Byron Scott admitted that injuries to perimeter players such as Jeremy Lin, Steve Nash, Ryan Kelly and Nick Young have hindered their 3-point efforts, Scott didn’t hide how he felt about the league's steep rise in long-range attempts.

“You’ve got a lot of teams that just live and die by it,” Scott said after the team’s practice here Friday. “Teams, general managers, coaches, they kind of draft that way to try to space the floor as much as possible. But you have to have shooters like that; you also have to have guys that can penetrate and get to the basket, because that opens up the floor.”

But does Scott believe in that style?

“I don’t believe it wins championships,” he said. “(It) gets you to the playoffs.”

Seven of the last eight NBA champions led all playoff teams in 3-point attempts and makes.

And it’s not as though Scott isn’t familiar with the 3-point shot. During his second season with the Lakers as a player, he led the NBA in 3-point field-goal percentage in 1984-85 (43 percent) and was in the top-10 in that category in three other seasons. Scott also ranked sixth in the NBA in 3-point attempts (179) and ninth in makes (62) during the 1987-88 season.

But are the Lakers’ low 3-point attempts this preseason a reflection of injuries or of how the Lakers will really end up playing this coming season?

“I don’t think that’s an indication of what we’ll be when we’re fully healthy,” Scott said. “I think it will still be 12, 13, 14, 15 (attempts per game), somewhere in that area, when we’re fully healthy.”

Only two NBA teams averaged between 12-15 3-point attempts during the 2013-14 regular season: New Orleans (15.9) and Memphis (14). No team averaged fewer. Houston averaged the most 3-point attempts (26.6), and 20 teams averaged at least 20 attempts per game.

When asked if an NBA team could eschew the 3-point shot and still win, Lin paused.

“That’s a good question,” Lin said. “I don’t know. I’m new to this as well. And I don’t have that much experience in terms of the Princeton offense or things like that. I know that it can work. I know that it has worked. And I think our job is to figure out how to do it. I don’t think it makes sense for us to scrap everything.

"I think coach Scott is a great coach, and I don’t think he’d put in something just because he’s hoping it works. He must have seen that it worked before and we have to make sure that we make it work.”

Lin also wasn’t aware that he was the last Lakers player to make a 3-point shot.

“Me?” he said, looking puzzled and surprised.

Yes. And the team is one for its last 19 from long distance.

“Well, we are shooting them,” Lin said. “We’re just not making them, I guess. We’ve just got to hit shots. Just part of it is getting clean open looks….Sometimes it just clicks like that where it becomes more fluid. It becomes more natural. We’re flowing. And right now, it looks like everything is kind of tough and sticky.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/40196/scott-lakers-wont-rely-on-the-3-pointer

I didn't think anyone could top Mike Brown. I could be wrong.

 

[CP1708]

“I don’t believe it wins championships,” he said. “(It) gets you to the playoffs.”

Seven of the last eight NBA champions led all playoff teams in 3-point attempts and makes.

Jesus Christ Byron.

 

[sea manup]

 

"I don't believe it wins championships. (It) gets you to the playoffs."

We managed to somehow find someone dumber than Magic Johnson.

"The team is better than what we had last season, because we have more guys who can do more things than just shoot 3-pointers," said Johnson.  "If I don't see another 3-pointer from a Laker team, I'll be happy."

 

[CP1708]

Ben Rosales ‏@brosales12 25m25 minutes ago
Now you wonder whether this is the Lakers FO's attempt to destroy any "old school FTW" sentiment in LA. "You wanted 80s play? HERE YOU GO."

Ben Rosales ‏@brosales12 24m24 minutes ago
So when they ultimately can Byron and hire a competent HC in '16 or so, the backlash when he basically runs MDA's sets will be nonexistent.

 

[joecoolio66]

This whole thing has been comical from Byron's coaching, his and Magic's quotes, player injuries, Laker personnel etc...

You name it but it has been  

 

 

[CP1708]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA ·
Emmanuel Mudiay preseason debut in China: 21 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block in victory.