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I still think a big trade is in the works. Will all the picks we have + Saric, a move for Paul George could seriously happen. Especially if the Kings somehow net a top 5 pick plus the Lakers pick conveying

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post #122 of 875
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Originally Posted by amitt5504 View Post

I still think a big trade is in the works. Will all the picks we have + Saric, a move for Paul George could seriously happen. Especially if the Kings somehow net a top 5 pick plus the Lakers pick conveying

I highly doubt the Pacers are willing to give up Paul George. He's their franchise player and they just signed Monta to help him out. He looked great when I saw him in preseason so there really would be no reason to trade the guy.

Do we have the Kings 1st rounder this year too, and is it unprotected?
post #123 of 875
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Rose by the deadline
post #124 of 875
Ewwww the Bulls can keep Rose. In Philly players dont get healthy...they get hurt & in Rose case he'll prob tear his ACL again at the press conference of that trade lol
post #125 of 875

Nah I'll take Rose. 1000x over.

 

I hate you even put that in my spirit @dennistrane Now I'll be waiting for it all season lol

post #126 of 875
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Nah I'll take Rose. 1000x over.

I hate you even put that in my spirit @dennistrane
 Now I'll be waiting for it all season lol

Short term I'll take Rose but long term hell no. I dont trust his health at all. Wouldnt pay him a franchise pg contract this point in his career
post #127 of 875
I wouldn't touch rose with a 10 ft pole..injury prone and wants to be maxed out...naw I'm good..A guy like Rose would be a final piece to puzzle for a fringe championship team..This team is no where near that point..And I doubt rose or any really good player would want to even come here right now..none of our guys are proven enough to garner that kind of respect yet..
Edited by outsidethabox - 1/27/16 at 7:26am
post #128 of 875
The thing is...even if we were to try to trade for somebody like Rose or Paul George, what would we give up?

We'd probably have to give up one of Embiid, Okafor or Noel plus our first rounder this year or the Lakers pick. That would be another big risk.
post #129 of 875
Anyone watching the game? nerd.gif
post #130 of 875
Good luck to the Sixers and to another season. Let's hope it's for the better

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post #131 of 875
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I feel like this team will be the worst of the 3 Hinkie seasons
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post #132 of 875
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I feel like this team will be the worst of the 3 Hinkie seasons

If theyre healthy they could be the best of all them but currently as is, they prob wont even win 10 games this year lol
post #133 of 875
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I still think a big trade is in the works. Will all the picks we have + Saric, a move for Paul George could seriously happen. Especially if the Kings somehow net a top 5 pick plus the Lakers pick conveying
Paul George is the only untradeable player on Indiana. We could offer Saric, Jah or Noel, and a first-round pick and the Pacers would probably still say no. The Indiana franchise is built around him and he was on a career arc trending upward prior to the gruesome injury. This year, I think he's motivated and going to remind NBA fans why he's a top-10 player in the league while mounting a MVP-caliber campaign.
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The thing is...even if we were to try to trade for somebody like Rose or Paul George, what would we give up?

We'd probably have to give up one of Embiid, Okafor or Noel plus our first rounder this year or the Lakers pick. That would be another big risk.
Nobody is taking Embiid for a player of Rose or George's caliber. Any reputable GM would be unwise to trust the way our organization has handled Embiid's medical situation. He's far from a clean bill of health. I'm not saying Embiid is Oden just yet, but my expectations physically and with on-court productivity have lessened dramatically with all the setbacks. Not a good sign, but I remain hopeful.
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I feel like this team will be the worst of the 3 Hinkie seasons
That's fine with me as long as the team defense and overall energy continues to improve under Brown. I understand this is a long-term project. The MCW trade made sense as much as some Sixers fans wanted to complain. He can't shoot and the Syracuse zone masked his individual defensive ability. I didn't like seeing K.J. McDaniels go, that was a great second-round find and he has tons of athleticism. The trade to Houston was a bit perplexing, we were worried he was an impending FA? Because he's shown me enough flashes to warrant the 3/$10M Houston gave him this offseason. Not to mention Hinkie fleeced Sacramento. Sorry, @rck3sactown and @Nelson999.
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post #134 of 875
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my fear is Brett Brown has enough and just peaces out

eventually all this losing is going to get to someone
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post #135 of 875
I just looked at this year's draft prospects and it looks like bigs all over the top 7. Exactly what we don't need. That being said, I do see a trade happening between now and draft day.

My biggest hope is that Lakers pull the trigger too early on Russell and we trade their pick (or our pick) to them for D'angelo. I know it's wishful thinking...but you never know.

I really want to see this Sixers team fully healthy.
post #136 of 875
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I just looked at this year's draft prospects and it looks like bigs all over the top 7. Exactly what we don't need. That being said, I do see a trade happening between now and draft day.

My biggest hope is that Lakers pull the trigger too early on Russell and we trade their pick (or our pick) to them for D'angelo. I know it's wishful thinking...but you never know.

I really want to see this Sixers team fully healthy.

Jaylen Brown and Jamal Murray are the guys we need to be looking at.
post #137 of 875
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post #138 of 875
Can that Jaylen Brown kid shoot & defend too tho? Cause lord knows we need some wings/2 guards that can do that
post #139 of 875
Even though we lost last night...it was a solid effort and very encouraging to see.

Sauce Castillo showed us glimpses of what he can potentially offer..not just a jump shooter, but drives and beautiful passes. He has high bball IQ.

Noel was absolutely BEASTING the first half of the game. I absolutely love what he brings to the team. He really does remind me of a young KG/ Marcus Camby on the defensive end. the offence is still a work in progress but the hustle and passion he brings is hard to replace. Once he has a PG that can set him up, life will be easier for him.

Okafor was schooling Cleveland bigs down low. Powering Love and finessing Mozgov. I love his versatilely on the offensive end. Uber talented. This pick ended up WAY better than D'angelo. lol That being said, I still think Noel is the most valuable out of the big three and most underrated. Jah makes the highlight reels, but Noel does all the little things that bigs should do to win basketball games. Jah's scoring is great but he needs to strengthen all other parts of his game, his rebounding should be better and he doesn't intimidate anyone on defence. How many teams with offensive bigs ended up with winning records?

Brook Lopez, Al Jeff, David Lee, Monroe etc...All are decent players but the first two struggle to make the playoffs while Lee is reduced to a bench role and Monroe makes the Bucks defence look aweful. Jah has a long long way to go if he wants to become an all star caliber player and on a winning team.

My other concern is that I haven't seen to many plays that involved both bigs...maybe chemistry and personnel is a factor. I hope to see some of that later in the future.

Either way, I've been watching Saric analysis vids and he seems to be a player who will fit nicely with the two bigs as a backup stretch 4. Even though he's not athletic, he is a smart defender, good passer and can stretch the floor.

Now that we have Stauskas and Covington back we should be able to at least compete. Also, I would like to see how Marshal pans out...he and TJ McConnell will make an interesting PG combination (I'm really hoping for an upgrade soon). Also Wroten as a sixth man will be great to have back.
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This guy McConnell can pass...
post #142 of 875
Our two bigs had solid games last night. I can't wait to see them flourish. They are truly something special in their own ways. I think if we trade Embiid for an all-star caliber player we will be just fine (even if Embiid has the better career).

Jah and Noel seem to have good work ethic, they don't seem to have any attitude problems and are coachable. those are the biggest question marks for Embiid.
post #143 of 875
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I don't know who would trade for Embiid though
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post #144 of 875
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post #145 of 875
Man..If Ish smith cost us Simmons or Ingram..
post #146 of 875
To be honest, I think our best scenario would be #2 pick and get ingram.

Simmons seems like a great talent, but I just can't see him reaching his potential unless he is in a system with the right personnel around him. That personnel is not in Philly.

With Jah, Noel, maybe Embiid, and Dario all coming in next year, the pain is too clogged up for the lineup to work. We would definitely have to move two of those pieces.

Ingram on the other hand, he can fit right away at either the three or 4 with Covington and Ish. Ingram shoots 40% from beyond the arch. Yes, he is a lot more raw, but that's why the Sixers hired coach brown and the philosophy of the franchise is to develop young talent.

One or two of the three bigs are moving sooner or later.

I'm kind of disappointed that the Jah/ Noel front court is not working out. WCS and Cousins found a way to make the front court work beautifully and that gives me hope that Jah/ Noel can also work out. Sure Cuz extended his range to the 3, but even without that the lineup could have worked out.
post #147 of 875

Noel and Jah are meshing more and more. It's only been half a season.

post #148 of 875
Inside the 76ers: Brown working on getting Noel and Okafor to thrive together

LOS ANGELES - By now, most 76ers fans have their preference.

Some think the team needs to keep Nerlens Noel at center and try to trade Jahlil Okafor. Others believe it's time to do the opposite. The popular belief is that two post players can't effectively coexist on the floor.

Brett Brown is not one of those people. The 76ers coach is far from ready to give up on playing the two 6-foot-11 post players.

But he sees what everyone else sees, and, as a result, Brown realizes their working together is a challenge. It's one that he's determined to tackle.

"If we can really get these guys comfortable on spacing with each other to give those shooters or Ish Smith the driving lanes, it's one of those 'have-tos' that we touch every single day," Brown said.

Brown is looking at four areas: How do Noel and Okafor space if a ball goes to a post? If one of them goes to a middle pick-and-roll, where's the other? If one of them goes to a sideline pick-and-roll, where's the other? And then, how do they space on a normal drive-and-dish?

"How do you get spacing . . . in those four areas," Brown said. "And if you can just make it pristine, perfect, then the space that those two can create will let everybody coexist.

"It's a challenge."

A major one, at that, considering they haven't been able to do it.

For a while, the popular belief was that it was a result of Noel's regressing. Then the Sixers reacquired Smith, a point guard, from New Orleans on Christmas Eve. Two days later, Noel, who had been playing power forward, started at center against the Phoenix Suns while Okafor missed the first of two games with a sore right knee.

Suddenly, we realized that Noel hasn't regressed at all. He's just less comfortable and less active as a power forward with Okafor on the floor.

Noel had elevated his game over the last four contests, going into Saturday night against the Clippers, as the starting center while playing with Smith. Noel started at center the first two games because of Okafor's absence. Because of his stellar play in those games, he remained there even though the Sixers went to a small-ball lineup in the next three, including Saturday night against the Clippers. Noel had been coming off the bench in those situations before this road trip.

Before Smith returned, the 21-year-old Noel was averaging 9.8 points, 7.7 rebounds, 1.4 steals, and 1.04 blocks. He averaged 16.7 points, 9.5 rebounds, 3.0 steals, and 2.5 blocks in four games before Saturday.

Brown was asked whether he sees Noel staying at center.

"I think he's fluid," the coach said. "I think he's a free safety. He will go back and forth. It's going to be what's required on the night."

Two factors will play into Brown's decision.

"First . . . growing those two [as players]. And a very close second: How do you go win?" Brown said. "But it goes in that order. How do I grow my young guys? How do you go win a game?"

Defensively, Noel can do certain things that Okafor can't at center. However, Okafor has an offensive skill set not seen in an NBA rookie since Tim Duncan came into the league in 1997-98.

Okafor was averaging 17.3 points before missing the two games. His numbers have been down since returning in a reserve role in small-ball situations. But he has still been effective. The 20-year-old had 10 points and 10 rebounds in 20 minutes Wednesday night against the Sacramento Kings. Then Okafor finished with 12 points in 24 minutes against the Los Angeles Lakers on Friday.

Brown has the tough task of trying to make this work.
post #149 of 875
Ingram cool and I wouldn't be mad if we ended up with him..but I want Simmons..Kid looks special...I say Draft him and figure out the rest..

Sad thing about this season I haven't watched a single game..Had no idea you couldn't watch sixers game on direct t.v..switching back with the quickness next year.

But checking box scores and reading game logs I'm highly disappointed in the way both jah and Noel been playing together..
post #150 of 875
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Ingram cool and I wouldn't be mad if we ended up with him..but I want Simmons..Kid looks special...I say Draft him and figure out the rest..

Sad thing about this season I haven't watched a single game..Had no idea you couldn't watch sixers game on direct t.v..switching back with the quickness next year.

But checking box scores and reading game logs I'm highly disappointed in the way both jah and Noel been playing together..


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