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We all know that black-on-black crime is myth perpetuated by the far right to justify treating black people like crap.
And we are fully aware that there is no such thing b/c the rates are nearly identical in regards to one race killing its own. you kill those who are closest to you.
but now... these guys have some new jargon they're trying to kick...
Trying to say "no... black people just kill themselves at a higher clip. you're 5x more likely to get killed as a black person than you are as a white person" or "its an epidemic in the black community that they're killing themselves. they kill themselves more than every other group"
this is completely false.
please do not let these people try and throw you this nonsense, and have you thinking that black people are inherently more violent
The main determinant about murders is POVERTY... Poor people tend to kill more...
The only problem is that poor black people make up a larger % of its population than poor white people.
here are a couple posts i made in another thread BREAKING this nonsense down.
and here is the breakdown of the numbers w/ some quick math i found through wikipedia and a credible crime statistic website
And we are fully aware that there is no such thing b/c the rates are nearly identical in regards to one race killing its own. you kill those who are closest to you.
but now... these guys have some new jargon they're trying to kick...
Trying to say "no... black people just kill themselves at a higher clip. you're 5x more likely to get killed as a black person than you are as a white person" or "its an epidemic in the black community that they're killing themselves. they kill themselves more than every other group"
this is completely false.
please do not let these people try and throw you this nonsense, and have you thinking that black people are inherently more violent
The main determinant about murders is POVERTY... Poor people tend to kill more...
The only problem is that poor black people make up a larger % of its population than poor white people.
here are a couple posts i made in another thread BREAKING this nonsense down.
pretending this there isnt a higher rate of poor black people compared to poor white people...
and poor/poverty is the MAIN factor in killing...
its like... "come on, famb"...
but kittyblood over there ignoring the facts... or he knows and just wants to rustle jimmies.
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/badcomm.htm
a study from villanova
http://www88.homepage.villanova.edu/lance.hannon/Forthcoming in the Journal of Poverty.pdf
another study from villanova
http://www88.homepage.villanova.edu...the Relationship between Poverty_Homicide.pdf
but it's a black problem, right?
and poor/poverty is the MAIN factor in killing...
its like... "come on, famb"...
but kittyblood over there ignoring the facts... or he knows and just wants to rustle jimmies.
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/badcomm.htm
Violent crime rates have more to do with poverty levels in a neighborhood than with the race of local residents, new research has found.
A study of Columbus neighborhoods found that violent crime rates in extremely disadvantaged white neighborhoods were very similar to rates in comparable Black neighborhoods.
The violent crime rate in highly disadvantaged Black areas was 22 per 1,000 residents, not much different from the 20 per 1,000 rate in similar white communities.
a study from villanova
http://www88.homepage.villanova.edu/lance.hannon/Forthcoming in the Journal of Poverty.pdf
In contrast, the few neighborhood-level studies on this topic have been relatively
consistent in their findings regarding racial invariance in the cross-sectional relationship
between disadvantage and violent crime. These studies usually conclude that the effect
of economic deprivation is similar for blacks and whites. In their seminal cross-sectional
study of census tracts in Columbus, Ohio, Krivo and Peterson (1996) compared the effect
of socioeconomic disadvantage on violent crime for areas that were predominately white
(70%+) and predominately black (70%+). Employing a dummy-variable interaction
effect analysis, Krivo and Peterson (1996, p. 633) concluded that their results supported
the argument that “structural conditions of disadvantage affect black and white
communities in the same manner.”
another study from villanova
http://www88.homepage.villanova.edu...the Relationship between Poverty_Homicide.pdf
but it's a black problem, right?
and here is the breakdown of the numbers w/ some quick math i found through wikipedia and a credible crime statistic website
i meant from a percentage standpoint, there are more black people in regards to percentage of population.
The violent crime rate in highly disadvantaged Black areas was 22 per 1,000 residents, not much different from the 20 per 1,000 rate in similar white communities.
meaning that all things being equal from a socioeconomic standpoint... the murder rate is the same.
(from wikipedia)
total black population: 45M
poor % of blacks: 27.1
poor # of blacks: 12.4M
total white population: 223M
poor % of whites: 9
poor # of whites: 20m
(from uniform crime rates 2012) click here for article
# of black murders by black people: 2,412
# of white murders by white people: 2,614
so when you compare it to TOTAL population... yes, it may SEEM like its a MUCH higher rate...
black: 2.4K / 45M = .0053%
white: 2.6k / 223M = .0012%
which means from a TOTAL perspective... you're 4.5x as likely to be murdered if you're a black person.
but when you look at the POOR population..
black: 2.4k / 12.4M = .019%
white 2.6 / 20M = .013
which means from a POOR perspective... you're 1.4x as likely to be murdered if you're a black person...
THAT'S HOW STATS GET SKEWED... take into consideration that blacks get convicted at a substantially higher rate than whites, and that will bring the rate down even more.
this was quick and dirty math that comes REALLY close to the 20 out of 100k and 22 out of 100k that was in the article i quoted (22/20 = 1.1)
The violent crime rate in highly disadvantaged Black areas was 22 per 1,000 residents, not much different from the 20 per 1,000 rate in similar white communities.
meaning that all things being equal from a socioeconomic standpoint... the murder rate is the same.
(from wikipedia)
total black population: 45M
poor % of blacks: 27.1
poor # of blacks: 12.4M
total white population: 223M
poor % of whites: 9
poor # of whites: 20m
(from uniform crime rates 2012) click here for article
# of black murders by black people: 2,412
# of white murders by white people: 2,614
so when you compare it to TOTAL population... yes, it may SEEM like its a MUCH higher rate...
black: 2.4K / 45M = .0053%
white: 2.6k / 223M = .0012%
which means from a TOTAL perspective... you're 4.5x as likely to be murdered if you're a black person.
but when you look at the POOR population..
black: 2.4k / 12.4M = .019%
white 2.6 / 20M = .013
which means from a POOR perspective... you're 1.4x as likely to be murdered if you're a black person...
THAT'S HOW STATS GET SKEWED... take into consideration that blacks get convicted at a substantially higher rate than whites, and that will bring the rate down even more.
this was quick and dirty math that comes REALLY close to the 20 out of 100k and 22 out of 100k that was in the article i quoted (22/20 = 1.1)