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This is what I'm saying by now dudes should know the script.
Some quick points about Black homocide and "black on black" crime vol: stop trollin, famb.
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This is what I'm saying by now dudes should know the script.
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I went back to read his post when he said he brought it up and he did mention it though and then repeatedly said he already mentioned it.
The articles and stuff just back up his main point.
Like I'm lost on what exactly is the outrageous statement that's being contended. Is black on black crime not a huge problem for the black community?
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i live in chicago around nothing but other black people. Black on black violence is real af.
BUT
Back in the day me and my homie would go downtown to rob people and our only rule was no black people.
even though we used to see black people slippin we just couldnt do it to them
BUT
Back in the day me and my homie would go downtown to rob people and our only rule was no black people.
even though we used to see black people slippin we just couldnt do it to them
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The reason that it is bad science is because of how the data was compiled.
Counting is "bad science"?There are multiple databases that show the same trends, they cannot all be propaganda. in fact some of this data was collected by organizationS whose sole agenda is to do something to curb these disturbing stats. Black males die from violent crimes far more often than whites it's a FACT.
I compare 2 populations, 3000 people die in one population that represents on 10% of the American demographic to 1000 people dying from the same cause in a population that represents 70 percent of the population. I mean, maybe you guys just failed math in grade school which honestly wouldn't surprise me.
Wait, are you insinuating that the government is faking black deaths to make blacks look violent. The entertainment industry already does that, the government doesn't have to raise a finger. Now propaganda would be a intricate ploy to lead black people away from the root cause of their problems. Give one child Trayvon all the exposure, create a distraction from a very good weapon of population control in black neighborhoods.
Hell violence aside black teens are less likely to reach adulthood from many different cause than whites, it's a FACT.
Counting isn't bad science, but cherry picking of data is considered the bad science. It suits a study that may be biased, and then fitting a political agenda.
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Why don't they call the murders that are happening in Brighton Beach NY, White on White crime?
Why didn't they call mafia murders White on White crime?
It's the catchphrase Black on Black that is the true issue, outside of their cherry picking of data.
Whites kill other whites, Asians kill other Asians, and Latino's kill other Latino's, yet there is no catchphrase concerning their plight.
The stereotyping is a very serious issue.
Now, as far as your go away comment, you sound as a petulant child, but hey, perhaps someone has taken your pacifier.
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I dont think russian on russian crime gets enough light personally.
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I am not trying to catch up with anything. This thread is about misconceptions, and how flawed data has led to the perception that Black people are the only people who kill their own.
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Homocide doe.
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Black people do not only live in the United States.
You poor tortured soul, I have not done anything to you, nor said anything to you, personally, to have you call my comments idiotic. We are simply disagreeing on matters of perception. Why that is such a problem for you suggests an even bigger issue, quite obviously one that I am not qualified to deal with.
However, in regard to the subject, I don't think that it is unwise to say that when news is put out to the masses, certain information is used to further the agenda of those who do not have the best interests of Black people, at heart.
You can say whatever you wish now, but it will not make you look very wise.
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Yet again, more insults. I guess you don't realize the irony in what you are stating, and then are actually doing.
We are talking about the U.S.If you wanna bring up other cultures we can do this, I think inherently white people are the most violent "race" on this planet. I mean I'm not even sure if that's something genetic but Europeans have raped and pillaged ever single ethnic group on this planet. The most successful genocide in recorded human history was at the hands of Europeans.
This takes NOTHING away from the fact that institutionalized racism set up conditions that leads to black people murdering each other. And I do think black people should take initiative and address the situation.
I mean we could go into detail of the history of how man inter-tribal conflicts in African were caused by European imperialism but you seem slow so let's start on a smaller scale......black people murder each other and Europeans stand back and laugh.
Thanks, you inadvertently said the smartest thing you've ever said in your life. It may actually be a global African diaspora issue but it doesn't change the fact that blacks are playing into the hands of white people and are killing one another.
When civilized people disagree, we simply disagree.
When people bring up statistics regarding the Black community, you are leaving out the fact that Black people are GLOBAL. That said, only using the United States as an example of so called Black on Black crime, especially while using the graphics shown above, is indeed cherry picking. The crime issue is an AMERICAN problem, not one of Black people alone. Columbine wasn't Black people, nor was Sandy Hook. If American society were honest dealing with the causes of crime in the inner cities, racism, broken homes, poor education, underemployment, only then would we be able to come to the table and agree as to what are the root causes. The same thing was going on in early New York, with the Five Points. White people were killing white people, and it was called what it was, impoverished people struggling to survive.
Black people do it? It become something other, something to be examined, something to be exploited.
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Literally just cuz of his name, I said it in the other thread.
Dudes arguing in circles agreeing with each other the entire time, but cuz Anton said it dudes WILL find a way to have a problem with it.
Basically comes down to presentation. Cuz other than that all I see is
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"These are facts."
"Yeah... but there's no causal relationship between the two. All you've demonstrated is a correlation. There might be an intervening variable, like the relationship between ice cream sales and homicides, or it could be that the relationship between these two trends is entirely coincidental. The "fact" of a declining murder rate and the diminution of IE's market share does not amount to prima facie evidence of IE as a contributor to homicide."
"It's slow, so it doesn't want to admit to facts."
Do us all a favor here: be respectful or leave.
Had you spent one day studying statistical methodologies you'd appreciate the limitations of your proposed study.
You've admitted that there are omitted variables here that account for virtually the entire relationship between race and homicide. Race, in this case, is incidental.
Wouldn't it be more responsible, then, to refer to this as "neighborhood on neighborhood" crime, or "SES on SES" crime?
To call it "Black on Black" when race is not a motivating factor is irresponsible. It frames the issue as a "cultural" one, and that's exactly how it's been portrayed in the media.
If you use "Black on Black" as shorthand, when you mean "poverty on poverty" then you, through rhetorical sleight of hand, are equating "Black" with "poor." That in itself is a stereotype - and it's one that occludes "poverty on poverty" violence associated with other groups.
It's reductionist, and irresponsibly so, to try and say,
"Poor people are more likely to kill poor people," "because of institutionalized racism, Black Americans are more likely to be poor," therefore, "Black Americans are more likely to kill Black Americans."
The two statements you just simplified out of the equation to arrive at your conclusion are more telling and meaningful than the result. That is what is reckless and misleading about this. Through sensationalist mislabeling, you're masking the causal relationships and advancing a toxic stereotype.
It plays right into the hands of bigots and conservatives who seek to characterize violence as endemic to Black Americans or, even more insidiously, to "Black culture."
"Yeah... but there's no causal relationship between the two. All you've demonstrated is a correlation. There might be an intervening variable, like the relationship between ice cream sales and homicides, or it could be that the relationship between these two trends is entirely coincidental. The "fact" of a declining murder rate and the diminution of IE's market share does not amount to prima facie evidence of IE as a contributor to homicide."
"It's slow, so it doesn't want to admit to facts."
Do us all a favor here: be respectful or leave.
Perhaps that's the problem: you're applying high school math to social research.
Had you spent one day studying statistical methodologies you'd appreciate the limitations of your proposed study.
You've admitted that there are omitted variables here that account for virtually the entire relationship between race and homicide. Race, in this case, is incidental.
Wouldn't it be more responsible, then, to refer to this as "neighborhood on neighborhood" crime, or "SES on SES" crime?
To call it "Black on Black" when race is not a motivating factor is irresponsible. It frames the issue as a "cultural" one, and that's exactly how it's been portrayed in the media.
If you use "Black on Black" as shorthand, when you mean "poverty on poverty" then you, through rhetorical sleight of hand, are equating "Black" with "poor." That in itself is a stereotype - and it's one that occludes "poverty on poverty" violence associated with other groups.
It's reductionist, and irresponsibly so, to try and say,
"Poor people are more likely to kill poor people," "because of institutionalized racism, Black Americans are more likely to be poor," therefore, "Black Americans are more likely to kill Black Americans."
The two statements you just simplified out of the equation to arrive at your conclusion are more telling and meaningful than the result. That is what is reckless and misleading about this. Through sensationalist mislabeling, you're masking the causal relationships and advancing a toxic stereotype.
It plays right into the hands of bigots and conservatives who seek to characterize violence as endemic to Black Americans or, even more insidiously, to "Black culture."
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I'm flattered
Once again you take a thread about an issue and make it into a thread about yourself.
I'm tired of your shenanigans man.
You need a woman or something in life to show you some attention.
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IMO yall dudes constantly calling out Anton by his old SN played a huge part in doing that.I'm flattered
Once again you take a thread about an issue and make it into a thread about yourself.
I'm tired of your shenanigans man.
You need a woman or something in life to show you some attention.
Some ppl didn't even know LionBlood was Anton with the way yall were arguing about nothing until he was specifically called out.
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^I disagree.
He was getting on my nerves before I found out he was Anton.
He was getting on my nerves before I found out he was Anton.
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bruuuhhh.
We get it! You think people don't like Anton and hate his message.
Jeez. Been about 8 posts with the same thing!
It's already been established that he is associating the entire black community with its poor counterparts. And making poor = black.
But not doing the same for other races.
No, he is NOT saying its a poor thing. He is saying its a black thing because black people are poor.
This thread ain't about kitty blood. Its about shining light on the talking points with skewed stata that people use to denigrate black people.
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and you're the type to use slight of word and moonwalking tactics to slither on slick comments about black people.
You're also the type to run and deflect when your argument gets torn apart, IE this thread.
Carry on.
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It's pretty clear you do. Yall went from discussing something to constantly throwing out gifs and calling each other trolls.
Coming in now after the fact quoting me while you aint saying **** isn't changing that.
No it hasn't. Stop being so damn sensitive.
If he's not saying it's a poor thing why did he mention that being poor is a factor in his posts? Don't come in after the fact if you can't explain your stance properly. Might as well just let Meth argue for you.
You talk about my 8 previous posts that said the same thing but you were ghost and didn't address any of my questions. Don't be a clown.
Stop lying. You specifically made this thread about him cuz you felt talking about it in the other thread wasn't enough for you to draw attention to each other. Look at the damn volume in the thread title. Now you trying to tell me what this thread is about like I'm blind? Save it.
**** was pettty bruh.
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"homocide" though? really?
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