So what's next for hip hop?

ty$ seems 2 be next up,,,,

but ive also been pondering who/what is the next artist/sound from rap that'll be putting up drake numbers
 
It's still a lot of quality rap. Run the Jewels 2 just dropped, that Gibbs/Madlib project is GREAT, Royce and Premo dropping, Statik Selektah had a great drop, etc etc etc

If you talking about the mainstream stuff, I don't even care about that.
 
It's still a lot of quality rap. Run the Jewels 2 just dropped, that Gibbs/Madlib project is GREAT, Royce and Premo dropping, Statik Selektah had a great drop, etc etc etc

If you talking about the mainstream stuff, I don't even care about that.
I don't care much for minimum wage rappers 
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, it's like if you haven't reached mainstream success yet then you're just prolonging the inevitable. 
 
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It's still a lot of quality rap. Run the Jewels 2 just dropped, that Gibbs/Madlib project is GREAT, Royce and Premo dropping, Statik Selektah had a great drop, etc etc etc

If you talking about the mainstream stuff, I don't even care about that.
 
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I don't care much for minimum wage rappers 
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, it's like if you haven't reached mainstream success yet then you're just prolonging the inevitable. 
Whose mans is this?
http://niketalk.com/t/6460/joell-ortiz-anyone-else-feelin-this-cat


...this thread only accumulated 27 replies, and it will be 7 years old tomorrow. 
 
Who was talking about joell ortiz tho?
Minimum wage rappers ...he's in a group with Royce Da 5'9" right? Royce has a second group with Premo right? If Royce and Premo only had five dollars and Henz0 had five dollars ...Henz0 still got more money than them.
 
Minimum wage rappers ...he's in a group with Royce Da 5'9" right? Royce has a second group with Premo right? If Royce and Premo only had five dollars and Henz0 had five dollars ...Henz0 still got more money than them.
Not really gonna sit here and defend royce specifically because im not a big fan of dude but your arguement has no point. So by your opinion a rapper only becomes good when they reach mainstream success?? Or a rappers better than another rapper if he makes more money??
 
I think Hip Hop will experience a renaissance in the coming years on the backs of the 90's babies who've experienced a level of access to music and the internet that previous generations didn't have.

I believe their will be a big influx of electronic/laptop producers and young artists making music that will shift the sound of rap to a more experimental place.
 
Not really gonna sit here and defend royce specifically because im not a big fan of dude but your arguement has no point. So by your opinion a rapper only becomes good when they reach mainstream success?? Or a rappers better than another rapper if he makes more money??
Like it or not the music industry is a career path. My point is either you're mainstream successful or you're wasting time and money prolonging the inevitable, which is no one is messing with you like that enough to pay you top dollars to release an album or fill a large venue. Rappers get paid for their ability to sell records and pack venues. Rapping is such a violent and competitive genre of music because it's based on CREDITABILITY. It's high stakes, if a rapper attacks your creditability there's a possibility he can end your career. Nas had Jay-Z on the ropes, he struggled to recover and if it wasn't for other business ventures and his marriage to Beyonce he would've went down for the count.

However Jay-Z is the topic of discussion because he beat the system, made smart investments, and fostered smart relationships. He completely re-branded himself after the fall of Roc-a-Fella in which he lost EVERYTHING behind the scenes. And he is almost 50 years old and currently getting  $4 million for one performance. Compared to someone like Royce, Premo and all them other dudes who are barely able to earn $10,000-$15,000 a show as a "super-group". 


While some like Kanye and Pusha T are smart and invest their money from rap into other ventures, there's some who have NOTHING going on outside of performing and will literally have to kill you over their "street cred" because it's all they have and it's what makes them money. Case in point, Trinidad James vs. New York (Maino and Mysonne).


This is the reality of it. I know some of you are still young and live with your parents or have support systems where you can blow $1,000 investing into your music career and it's hard to hear the truth. But this is it ...when you turn on the news and find that some underground rapper was killed in his studio or on his block or at a show, he's not dying over ignorance; he's dying protecting an investment. One largely made possible by street affiliates. 


...a lot of these hip-hop nostalgic acts, who seem stuck in the 90's are only alive because they aren't about that life and stay in their lane. From high school to adulthood, they be them nerds and misfits scared to swing on the popular jock or cool kid for respect so they stay getting scraps, from prom to a life at 40 with no 401K and constant reminders of their mediocre attempt.

They can make a move and be brave and heartless just like the corporate sector of America, someone has to die for someone else to eat GOOD. (Jeffrey T. Johnson, Enron, Veteran Affairs, GM, etc) But they won't, so they live their lives as battling imaginary foes from the sidelines of Hip-Hop as, minimum wage rappers.

 

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Not really gonna sit here and defend royce specifically because im not a big fan of dude but your arguement has no point. So by your opinion a rapper only becomes good when they reach mainstream success?? Or a rappers better than another rapper if he makes more money??
Like it or not the music industry is a career path. My point is either you're mainstream successful or you're wasting time and money prolonging the inevitable, which is no one is messing with you like that enough to pay you top dollars to release an album or fill a large venue. Rappers get paid for their ability to sell records and pack venues. Rapping is such a violent and competitive genre of music because it's based on CREDITABILITY. It's high stakes, if a rapper attacks your creditability there's a possibility he can end your career. Nas had Jay-Z on the ropes, he struggled to recover and if it wasn't for other business ventures and his marriage to Beyonce he would've went down for the count.

However Jay-Z is the topic of discussion because he beat the system, made smart investments, and fostered smart relationships. He completely re-branded himself after the fall of Roc-a-Fella in which he lost EVERYTHING behind the scenes. And he is almost 50 years old and currently getting  $4 million for one performance. Compared to someone like Royce, Premo and all them other dudes who are barely able to earn $10,000-$15,000 a show as a "super-group". 


While some like Kanye and Pusha T are smart and invest their money from rap into other ventures, there's some who have NOTHING going on outside of performing and will literally have to kill you over their "street cred" because it's all they have and it's what makes them money. Case in point, Trinidad James vs. New York (Maino and Mysonne).


This is the reality of it. I know some of you are still young and live with your parents or have support systems where you can blow $1,000 investing into your music career and it's hard to hear the truth. But this is it ...when you turn on the news and find that some underground rapper was killed in his studio or on his block or at a show, he's not dying over ignorance; he's dying protecting an investment. One largely made possible by street affiliates. 


...a lot of these hip-hop nostalgic acts, who seem stuck in the 90's are only alive because they aren't about that life and stay in their lane. From high school to adulthood, they be them nerds and misfits scared to swing on the popular jock or cool kid for respect so they stay getting scraps, from prom to a life at 40 with no 401K and constant reminders of their mediocre attempt.

They can make a move and be brave and heartless just like the corporate sector of America, someone has to die for someone else to eat GOOD. (Jeffrey T. Johnson, Enron, Veteran Affairs, GM, etc) But they won't, so they live their lives as battling imaginary foes from the sidelines of Hip-Hop as, minimum wage rappers.


 
 
Like it or not the music industry is a career path. My point is either you're mainstream successful or you're wasting time and money prolonging the inevitable, which is no one is messing with you like that enough to pay you top dollars to release an album or fill a large venue. Rappers get paid for their ability to sell records and pack venues. Rapping is such a violent and competitive genre of music because it's based on CREDITABILITY. It's high stakes, if a rapper attacks your creditability there's a possibility he can end your career. Nas had Jay-Z on the ropes, he struggled to recover and if it wasn't for other business ventures and his marriage to Beyonce he would've went down for the count.


However Jay-Z is the topic of discussion because he beat the system, made smart investments, and fostered smart relationships. He completely re-branded himself after the fall of Roc-a-Fella in which he lost EVERYTHING behind the scenes. And he is almost 50 years old and currently getting  $4 million for one performance. Compared to someone like Royce, Premo and all them other dudes who are barely able to earn $10,000-$15,000 a show as a "super-group". 



While some like Kanye and Pusha T are smart and invest their money from rap into other ventures, there's some who have NOTHING going on outside of performing and will literally have to kill you over their "street cred" because it's all they have and it's what makes them money. Case in point, Trinidad James vs. New York (Maino and Mysonne).



This is the reality of it. I know some of you are still young and live with your parents or have support systems where you can blow $1,000 investing into your music career and it's hard to hear the truth. But this is it ...when you turn on the news and find that some underground rapper was killed in his studio or on his block or at a show, he's not dying over ignorance; he's dying protecting an investment. One largely made possible by street affiliates. 



...a lot of these hip-hop nostalgic acts, who seem stuck in the 90's are only alive because they aren't about that life and stay in their lane. From high school to adulthood, they be them nerds and misfits scared to swing on the popular jock or cool kid for respect so they stay getting scraps, from prom to a life at 40 with no 401K and constant reminders of their mediocre attempt.


They can make a move and be brave and heartless just like the corporate sector of America, someone has to die for someone else to eat GOOD. (Jeffrey T. Johnson, Enron, Veteran Affairs, GM, etc) But they won't, so they live their lives as battling imaginary foes from the sidelines of Hip-Hop as, minimum wage rappers.


 


 





 
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Again your arguement has no point. No where in your short essay/rant did you give anything that can be seen as an answer to my questions... For that you are awarded no reps and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
Again your arguement has no point. No where in your short essay/rant did you give anything that can be seen as an answer to my questions... For that you are awarded no reps and may God have mercy on your soul.
Nah you just can't read ...
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Nah you just can't read ...:lol:
Where exactly did you give a straight answer?? I asked is a rapper ONLY CONSIDERED GOOD WHEN THEY'VE ACHIVED MAINSTREAM SUCCESS. You talked about rappers making money and some tangent about all underground rappers are violent and lucky to be alive but you never gave a straight answer.
 
Where exactly did you give a straight answer?? I asked is a rapper ONLY CONSIDERED GOOD WHEN THEY'VE ACHIVED MAINSTREAM SUCCESS. You talked about rappers making money and some tangent about all underground rappers are violent and lucky to be alive but you never gave a straight answer.
The wonderful thing about reading debates online is that you read them over and over until they make sense to you. 
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I think Hip Hop will experience a renaissance in the coming years on the backs of the 90's babies who've experienced a level of access to music and the internet that previous generations didn't have.

I believe their will be a big influx of electronic/laptop producers and young artists making music that will shift the sound of rap to a more experimental place.



**** like this



 
:lol: nas almost took Jay out? ***** please

Realtalk.

Nas was beyond irrelevant around the time of their beef. Jay z was blazzing hot and has pretty much been blazzing hot since hard knock life. People like to talk about his investments a lot but you gotta remember, jay z makes stupid guap from music. ***** been doing stadiums for 15 years straight. Dude is a master at giving the people what they want. He always made sure he ****** with the best talent producer wise. Nas had the chance to work with pharrell before jay got a hold of him but nas wasn't rockin with it because skateboard p slacks were too tight for nas' liking. Jay has mega mondo bread and he never sold out. he just too real for ****** too handle so they gotta make **** up
 
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