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Yeah you don't just want to accept people can feel differently than you. There's a bunch of people like you and that's why people aren't comfortable and welcoming in general.People are so caught up on what they "think" is/isn't that they can't comprehend that it's possible someone else doesn't think that way. You don't think a stranger coming up to you and saying hello is harassment, good for you. Maybe you're at ease with that approach, maybe it puts other people on edge and defensive. It's hilarious when people think their feelings are the end all be all. "Nope I said it ain't harassment so it's not, that's that"
Okay then. Put no parameters on harassment. Guys should be arrested for simply breathing oxygen around the vicinity of these militant feminazis. Because hey, if she says breathing in within eyesight of her is harassment, then it's harrasment
its been posted here as well that the girl intetionally edited out those instances.didn't they say on Reddit that they did have white guys and other guys saying the same thing, but for some mysterious reason the video only shows people of color doing it
You are, of course, free to ask what you please. But I will not engage a question without first interrogating the very presumptions upon which a question is based. You wanted a simplistic answer from a simpleton. You found me who read your question, found it lacking in intellectual clarity, and spit it out for the bile that it was.
No, I asked the question I asked. I could care less about the ubiquity of patriarchy at this point.
People said that she targeted latino and african men, implying that she had an agenda against african american men and latinos. I didn't assume anything...I never brought race up! The people you're defending brought it up. So that strikes your "1)" 'assumptions' about me and my so called assumptions.
My question was intended to illustrate that this shouldn't be a discussion about race.
I'll be transparent about 'my assumptions' and save you from psychobable analytics. I assume that new york men are generally more aggressive in approaching women. Regardless of their ethnic background.
Now
Yeah you don't just want to accept people can feel differently than you. There's a bunch of people like you and that's why people aren't comfortable and welcoming in general.
So you're basing your stance off of it's a dangerous world argument? Anything can happen. Danger is around ever corner, hide ya kids, hide ya wife, etc. Kids don't talk to strangers blah blah blah.A stranger approaching me randomly in the street is a threat to me and I'm a man who can defend myself. This world isn't safe and I see a bunch of mental people on my commute. Who knows what they want? It's not that hard to understand how it can be threatening to a woman.Nah but we all should be able to tell someone when they're overreacting.Again, you think you should able to tell someone what they feel is harassment?If roofying my drink and tying something around my junk and taking advantage of me while I am passed out aint rape. "Hello, how are you" is by no means harrassment
It may be a problem with the individual if a man saying hello, hey, how are you, is considered to be harassment or threatening. It's possible they're just that fearful and/or were a victim in a past and is extra paranoid.
good for you
No, I asked the question I asked. I could care less about the ubiquity of patriarchy at this point.
People said that she targeted latino and african men, implying that she had an agenda against african american men and latinos. I didn't assume anything...I never brought race up! The people you're defending brought it up. So that strikes your "1)" 'assumptions' about me and my so called assumptions.
My question was intended to illustrate that this shouldn't be a discussion about race.
I'll be transparent about 'my assumptions' and save you from psychobable analytics. I assume that new york men are generally more aggressive in approaching women. Regardless of their ethnic background.
NowYou are, of course, free to ask what you please. But I will not engage a question without first interrogating the very presumptions upon which a question is based. You wanted a simplistic answer from a simpleton. You found me who read your question, found it lacking in intellectual clarity, and spit it out for the bile that it was.
Despite the fact that I have repeatedly said that I am neither interested in proving whether *****ona is a racist nor claiming that she has an "agenda" against black and latino men, you still retreat to the same rudimentary cave. Always, you and heLium revert back to the individual. "I" did not bring up race. *****ona is not a racist. But if you grappled with my posts, you should have detected the same thread: you do not have to bring up race to put forward an analysis that owes its pernicious roots to racial ideology. Shinshona herself does not have to be a racist to produce a video that reproduces age-old assumptions about who is and who isn't a predator, who is and who isn't a victim, who is and who isn't the valiant protector of white womanhood.
You wish to divide the world into neat categories. Accordingly, some issues belong in a "racial" category and others do not. But in the United States, where racial ideology is the central motor of change, symmetrical arrangements are impossible.
To the cave you return...
Nope I have no examples. I'm just not so close minded to not understand why a woman possibly wouldn't want a a stranger approaching her.I know you might want to come with examples of some crazy dude attacking a woman in broad day light in public out the blue as something that supports your stance but we both know that's not the norm.
Too much to bear? Are the flames of hell too hot?
good for you
I don't think that's what the video is trying to get across. From the video I gathered that dudes just need to 'chill', there's no need for all the 'hey mas', 'can I holla', 'can I get your number' especially when someone is just going about their day.So you're basing your stance off of it's a dangerous world argument? Anything can happen. Danger is around ever corner, hide ya kids, hide ya wife, etc. Kids don't talk to strangers blah blah blah.A stranger approaching me randomly in the street is a threat to me and I'm a man who can defend myself. This world isn't safe and I see a bunch of mental people on my commute. Who knows what they want? It's not that hard to understand how it can be threatening to a woman.Nah but we all should be able to tell someone when they're overreacting.Again, you think you should able to tell someone what they feel is harassment?If roofying my drink and tying something around my junk and taking advantage of me while I am passed out aint rape. "Hello, how are you" is by no means harrassment
It may be a problem with the individual if a man saying hello, hey, how are you, is considered to be harassment or threatening. It's possible they're just that fearful and/or were a victim in a past and is extra paranoid.
I tell you this right now none of this bull **** someone is approaching you is a threat wouldn't hold up in any court of law. Seems yall don't know what a threat is either. Just incredibly paranoid and fearful.
This woman is steady walking, the men approaching her are walking in opposite direction or along side her. Nobody is impeding her way or stopping her, or cornering her. You know for the most part these dudes probably approached with a smile to signify they're not a threat. It's in the middle of the day, sun is out. Public area. All they're saying is different forms of hi and throwing out compliments and then there's the dudes who go extra hard with raunchy talk or disrespect but those dudes are stationary and not pursuing. So I can't really buy it. I know you might want to come with examples of some crazy dude attacking a woman in broad day light in public out the blue as something that supports your stance but we both know that's not the norm.
yes they are very hot. thanks for your concern.Too much to bear? Are the flames of hell too hot?
good for you
Comparing a job to a stranger on the street, ooooookI can't beleive that guys are arguing that women are harassed for simply saying so. Their every word is law.
Wonder if they would feel that way if they said hi and were terminated from their job for harassment because "she should define what she feels is harassment" what a joke
Comparing a job to a stranger on the street, ooooook
Dudes are hell bent on being able to "holla" at girls on the street. Like its some sort of god given right...Comparing a job to a stranger on the street, ooooookI can't beleive that guys are arguing that women are harassed for simply saying so. Their every word is law.
Wonder if they would feel that way if they said hi and were terminated from their job for harassment because "she should define what she feels is harassment" what a joke
Again, you think you should able to tell someone what they feel is harassment?If roofying my drink and tying something around my junk and taking advantage of me while I am passed out aint rape. "Hello, how are you" is by no means harrassment
I don't think that's what the video is trying to get across. From the video I gathered that dudes just need to 'chill', there's no need for all the 'hey mas', 'can I holla', 'can I get your number' especially when someone is just going about their day.
I think the video got across the point that it got across, no need to interpret anything or over analyze anything.
i think the women in the video and who have experienced this have defined what they feel is the problem. no?You are saying there should be no parameters. If a stranger is within her line of sight he could be harassing her because she should define what she feels is harassment. If she is uncomfortable sharing a train cart with anyone, well then too bad for the male population.Comparing a job to a stranger on the street, ooooook
Its the same thing
i think the women in the video and who have experienced this have defined what they feel is the problem. no?
Dudes are hell bent on being able to "holla" at girls on the street. Like its some sort of god given right...
Comparing a job to a stranger on the street, ooooookI can't beleive that guys are arguing that women are harassed for simply saying so. Their every word is law.
Wonder if they would feel that way if they said hi and were terminated from their job for harassment because "she should define what she feels is harassment" what a joke
i think the women in the video and who have experienced this have defined what they feel is the problem. no?
But those women might not feel the same as other women. That was his point. So any woman can make any definition for harassment she wants and thus she is being harassed
diego stop playing!No street in NY will get any female that kind of attention just for walking down the street.
Shorty doesn't even look good and was dressed mad regular.
I'm sure her views have gone up exponentially after dropping this video.
How is anyone eating all this **** up.
That video is NOT real life.
I don't care what Hennessy claims happens to his girl when she comes to NY.
My point is maybe you should consider both sides before you proceed with your thirst.
I'm not saying a woman can't keep it in mind when they're on their own. We all know and I'm sure it's on their mind more than ours about the threats to women but that fact can not translate in to every dude you do not recognize that approaches you is a threat. I think most good looking females are you use to being approached because of their looks. Starts in school, extends to when you're in the mall with friends, then it goes from there in other places.Nope I have no examples. I'm just not so close minded to not understand why a woman possibly wouldn't want a a stranger approaching her.I know you might want to come with examples of some crazy dude attacking a woman in broad day light in public out the blue as something that supports your stance but we both know that's not the norm.
See now this message I can understand. This argument about the vid's message is saying otherwise though. Dudes need to chill cuz what they're doing aint gonna get them anywhere. You can call these dudes nuisances and annoyances but I'm not really seeing the harassment and the dudes who catcall are just obviously obnoxious.I don't think that's what the video is trying to get across. From the video I gathered that dudes just need to 'chill', there's no need for all the 'hey mas', 'can I holla', 'can I get your number' especially when someone is just going about their day.
So you're basing your stance off of it's a dangerous world argument? Anything can happen. Danger is around ever corner, hide ya kids, hide ya wife, etc. Kids don't talk to strangers blah blah blah.
A stranger approaching me randomly in the street is a threat to me and I'm a man who can defend myself. This world isn't safe and I see a bunch of mental people on my commute. Who knows what they want? It's not that hard to understand how it can be threatening to a woman.
Nah but we all should be able to tell someone when they're overreacting.
Again, you think you should able to tell someone what they feel is harassment?If roofying my drink and tying something around my junk and taking advantage of me while I am passed out aint rape. "Hello, how are you" is by no means harrassment
It may be a problem with the individual if a man saying hello, hey, how are you, is considered to be harassment or threatening. It's possible they're just that fearful and/or were a victim in a past and is extra paranoid.
I tell you this right now none of this bull **** someone is approaching you is a threat wouldn't hold up in any court of law. Seems yall don't know what a threat is either. Just incredibly paranoid and fearful.
This woman is steady walking, the men approaching her are walking in opposite direction or along side her. Nobody is impeding her way or stopping her, or cornering her. You know for the most part these dudes probably approached with a smile to signify they're not a threat. It's in the middle of the day, sun is out. Public area. All they're saying is different forms of hi and throwing out compliments and then there's the dudes who go extra hard with raunchy talk or disrespect but those dudes are stationary and not pursuing. So I can't really buy it. I know you might want to come with examples of some crazy dude attacking a woman in broad day light in public out the blue as something that supports your stance but we both know that's not the norm.
I think the video got across the point that it got across, no need to interpret anything or over analyze anything.