SERIAL PODCAST - Adnan Granted a new Trial

Man, I'm really struggling to understand how Bowe is viewed as a patriot by supporters. I feel like I'm being cold, but I don't care what happens to him. People died while searching for this guy, and he didn't even want to be found??

It's completely different from last year, but I'm just not interested in this story, and it's honestly a little frustrating that it doesn't appeal to me. Just don't want to force myself to listen to it.
 
The way he remembers certain details makes me feel as though he is making up his story.
 
as I suspected this season is not for me, just no interest in this topic or anything war related whatsoever.  The murder mystery angle is more interesting I listened to S1 like 3 times over

i'll keep listening to it just to have something on in the background, my something will hook me.  Sarah Koenig even seems bored, like she doesn't have the zeal she had for the first case
 
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Yep, as most have said... this season is just uninteresting to me and I wish they would of kept with the murder mystery/suspense angle they had for Season 1. I can see why they would change it up so it wouldn't get stagnant.. but after the first episode it's just not a must listen for me. I'll get around to listening to it down the line, when I'm completely out of things to listen to/watch but unlike S1 where it was a must listen to whenever a new episode was up, this one doesn't seem like it'll be as engaging.
 
I'm so mad at myself. My coworker tried to put me onto this last uear and I just kind of nodded and thought to myself,"im not gonna listen to a podcast version of dateline." :lol: :smh:

I started watching Making a Murderer and heard someone compre it to Serial so I gave episode one a try at work Wednesday morning...I finished the seasom by Thursday :lol:


Didn't think I would like season 2 because of the war stuff but honestly it hadn't been bad. Unlike season one, though, I have zero sympathy for this guy so far.
 
^Yeah, I still don't find his story interesting. If anything, I have more interest in wanting to hear the thoughts/experiences of the soldiers who had to go out and look for him.

Definitely not as interesting as Season 1.
 
Hypothetically

If you commited a murder, do you think you could persuade the majority to make them think you are innocent?

I haven't commited a murder but I feel l can understand why some people feel that he is innocent, I've gotten away with a lot, I mean a lot. By really using my charm. So that's why when I binged listened to the podcast, I had a strong feeling he was guilty. The way he carries himself, his charming attitude, and how he is able to get people to side with him. I'm guilty myself in getting people to side with me on things which I knew they shouldn't. I've taken full advantage of people's minds persuading them into thinking a certain way that I would want them too. I've used it really on girls I've dated, and coworkers.

I'm rambling on and on.

he did it.
 
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There is a chance that Adnan could be a sociopath or something, but that's unlikely. Listen to undisclosed and you can't deny this guy is innocent.
 
Don did it. I'm fairly certain if they tested the two hairs that were found on Hae's body that they'd belong to Don.

Side note: They tested Adnan against them, not his hair
 
There is a chance that Adnan could be a sociopath or something, but that's unlikely. Listen to undisclosed and you can't deny this guy is innocent.

Isn't that the podcast made by his longtime friend/lawyer?

Where is this info on the hairs found on Hae? I didn't hear anything about it in the podcast.

I really enjoyed the 12 episodes. But I have to admit, I'm leaning towards thinking Adnan did it. I just really don't think Jay is lying.
 
Don's time card situation is very fishy.
He should have been a suspect. No idea why they didn't include him and authorities went straight to Adnan.

I still find Jay had to play a part in the murder...
Isn't that the podcast made by his longtime friend/lawyer?

Where is this info on the hairs found on Hae? I didn't hear anything about it in the podcast.

I really enjoyed the 12 episodes. But I have to admit, I'm leaning towards thinking Adnan did it. I just really don't think Jay is lying.
Yeah, the Undisclosed podcast is made by someone who is associated to Adnan and his family. But what they do is go back to the details that Serial didn't cover and look into other aspects of the case. Pretty insightful/interesting things that they brought up.
 
Season 2 is not bad. Nothing like season 1 where I was hooked 5 minutes in.

It's an interesting story. I don't see what her angle is this season, aside from just telling a story. Last year was deep and groundbreaking. Nearly each episode had an oh **** moment.

Will continue listening but mostly just because SK is a very good narrator.
 
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Not exactly podcast related but Adnan getting another shot at the courts it seems like.

http://bsun.md/1SBHPMy

Adnan Syed, the man sentenced to life in prison in a murder case re-examined through the wildly popular podcast "Serial," arrived at a Baltimore courthouse Wednesday morning for the start of a scheduled three-day hearing to determine whether he should be granted a new trial.

Syed, 35, entered the courthouse with his hands shackled in the front and wearing prison clothing.

Syed, whose last request for a new trial was denied in 2012 in a sparsely attended hearing, will appear in a packed downtown Baltimore courtroom with family members, supporters and representatives from more than 40 local and national media outlets.

A small crowd assembled in advance of the court's opening on Wednesday, including Sarah Koenig, the former Sun reporter who produced and narrated the 'Serial' podcast that focused on the Syed case.

Syed's attorney, C. Justin Brown, is expected to present an alibi witness and raise questions about cellphone evidence that linked Syed to the area where his Woodlawn High School classmate Hae Min Lee was buried.
Adnan Syed, of 'Serial,' returns to court Wednesday

Sun reporter Justin Fenton talks about Adnan Syed who was featured in the hit podcast "Serial" in 2014. Syed is returning to court in Baltimore on his murder case of his ex-girlfriend, Hae Min Lee. (Kevin Richardson)

In the 2000 trial, prosecutors used the testimony of Jay Wilds, an acquaintance who said he helped Syed bury Lee's body in Baltimore's Leakin Park, and phone records they said tied Syed to the area. A jury found Syed guilty of first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping and false imprisonment and he was sentenced to life in prison.

After Syed's arrest, Asia McClain, another Woodlawn High School classmate, wrote him letters in jail, saying she had seen him in a library on the day authorities say Lee was killed.

McClain told The Baltimore Sun last year that she has "no doubt" about when and where she saw Syed. She added that she did not want to speculate on whether he is guilty or innocent.
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Years after murder, hope dims and stigma remains [Archives]

"I know that across offices and homes in America, and beyond, people have been discussing Adnan's guilt or innocence," she said in an emailed response to questions. "I can only tell you what it is I know. Whether this information means that Adnan is innocent, or deserves a new trial, is a decision for others to make."

Kevin Urick, who prosecuted Syed in 2000, testified at his 2012 post-conviction hearing that McClain told him she had written the affidavit "because she was getting pressure" from Syed's family.

But McClain said she didn't testify in the post-conviction hearing because Urick "discussed the evidence of the case in a manner that seemed designed to get me to think Syed was guilty and that I should not bother participating in the case."

Deputy Attorney General Thiru Vignarajah, who attended Woodlawn High School a few years ahead of Syed and Lee and is handling the case for the state, wrote that allegations that Urick improperly dissuaded McClain from testifying are "preposterous."

In challenging the cellphone evidence that was used to place Syed in the area where Lee's body was found, Brown has presented a memo that cellular carrier AT&T included with the cell tower data that warned about the data's reliability regarding incoming calls.

"Outgoing calls only are reliable for location status," the AT&T memo read. "Any incoming calls will NOT be considered reliable information for location."

In 2014, the "Serial" podcast raised questions about whether prosecutors were overzealous and Syed's defense attorney ineffective. Koenig said in the last episode that the evidence was "not enough, to me, to send anyone to prison for life."

Koenig declined to comment for this article. The second season of "Serial" began late last year, focusing on the case of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

Rabia Chaudry, a Syed family friend who brought Syed's case to Koenig's attention, tweeted last week that she is confident in Syed's chances for a new trial.

Brown, she wrote, "will win this."

Court officials said 40 media outlets have indicated they will attend the hearing. It will be held in the same courtroom as the recent trial of Baltimore Police Officer William Porter for the death of Freddie Gray. The court said there will be limited media seating and an overflow room, as at the Porter trial.

It's not known whether Welch will issue his ruling at the conclusion of the three-day hearing or at a later date.

This story will be updated
 
The 15 minute updates are really good


Apparently the courthouse is a circus because of the podcast
 
Undisclosed has done updates also. It's hard for me to listen to Sarah anymore, she is more caught up in the "story" than the facts. I do understand because she is a journalist and the undisclosed crew practice law.
 
This season is mad weak compared to season 1 , they struck gold with adnad , his charisma was through the roof .
 
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