taylor swift just saved the music industry

CashBanks said:
i dont think kanye had much to do with her success but it was the first time i ever heard of her but im also no a member of her target audience
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That's all it takes, you see or hear the name, people search it, shows up most reviewed in the search engines=fame. Were talking interviews, more kanye and taylor drama, the list goes on a on. It was a smart move and she milked it entirely. All because of Kanye.
 
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She annoys me
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Curious to see what happens in week 2. With the single zooming the way it did, promo blitz they did, her fanbase etc. it should have sold what it sold.

Would be crazy is she can go from first to sell 1 mil, to doing 2 mil in 3 weeks or so.

"Ignorance is bliss" must be the credo on this Kanye island some of you live on.

Seems like y'all are unaware of a hell of a lot before this dude puts you on :lol:

He did nothing for her that wasn't already happening. Which is why she was on stage accepting an award.

The VMA incident happened in 2009. Y'all still really bringing it up in 2014?

Allow me to educate you. Here's some info on the album she put out one full year before the VMA incident.

Fearless was an international breakthrough and commercial success for Swift. In the United States, it topped the Billboard 200 for eleven non-consecutive weeks, thus setting various records, including the longest chart-topper by a female country artist. On Billboard's Country Albums chart, the album logged a record 36 weeks at number one. With 5.2 million copies sold in 2009, the album became the year's best-seller, making Swift, 20 at the time, the youngest artist to have one.

Apparently she was already a big deal....

All he did was make himself look foolish. Hopping on stage after walking around taking a bottle of Hennessy to the head like he's about that life.

Par for the course.

If Kanye did this for her, he needs to figure out how to do it for himself :lol:
 
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you dudes really believe Kanye had anything to do with her success?  The reason Kanye was complaining was because she was winning an award over Beyonce, that should be evidence enough that she didn't need his help.  She was already well established before that.  I'm not a fan of hers but I ain't no fool either...
 
When Kanye interrupted her she already had a 5 x platinum album and 6 x platinum under her belt .. which last time I checked is more than any Kanye album has ever sold .. the irony is there's probably more people who found out about kanye after that happened . Since the incident she's out sold kanye comfortably ....which was more than half a decade ago by the way .
 
Taylor swift more popping than kanye or beyonce...clearly
 
Nah im trollin. kanye would sell out if his tickets were not 270.00 lol. Then again wtt tour was sold out. and ticket sells were crucial. yeezus tour didn't sell out arenas? cereal?
 
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CashBanks said:
i dont think kanye had much to do with her success but it was the first time i ever heard of her but im also no a member of her target audience
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illphillip said:
For interrupting her when she was already winning a high profile award?

OK
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Some of y'all are silly as hell.

And it's usually the ones obsessing over the same dude.
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heLiumcLinton said:
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for all you above and anyone else that do not think kayne west blew her career up let me show you this

Taylor had these albums
ONLY 2010,2012 AND 2014 ALBUM MADE PLAT SALES

The Kayne West/Taylor drama went down in the summer of 2009/ Every album Taylor made after that went Plat
 
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CashBanks said:
i dont think kanye had much to do with her success but it was the first time i ever heard of her but im also no a member of her target audience
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illphillip said:
For interrupting her when she was already winning a high profile award?

OK
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Some of y'all are silly as hell.

And it's usually the ones obsessing over the same dude.
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heLiumcLinton said:
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for all you above and anyone else that do not think kayne west blew her career up let me show you this

Taylor had these albums
ONLY 2010,2012 AND 2014 ALBUM MADE PLAT SALES

The Kayne West/Taylor drama went down in the summer of 2009/ Every album Taylor made after that went Plat
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and what evidence do you have to attribute this uptick in popularity directly to the Kanye incident?
 
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ServeChilled81 said:
 
and what evidence do you have to attribute this uptick in popularity directly to the Kanye incident?
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STOP IT! But since you want to make an **** of yourself i can do that

FACTS! STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH!

But did West actually help Swift’s career?

According to Nielsen SoundScan, the country singer’s first album, 2006′s “Taylor Swift,” sold 4,821,000 albums (plus 10,760,000 digital songs from the album). Her second album, 2008′s “Fearless,” sold 6,027,000 albums (plus 15,165,000 digital songs from the album) and, in the wake of the incident, became the best-selling album of 2009.

Swift’s music was already selling well pre-West. But post-West, her profile was raised even higher.

“The Kanye incident brought attention to Taylor, to an audience that did not really know her or her music,” says Scott Borchetta, the president of Big Machine, the record label that puts out Swift’s music. “And when they did check it out, they discovered that they really liked it.”
 
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ServeChilled81 said:
 
and what evidence do you have to attribute this uptick in popularity directly to the Kanye incident?
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O AND HERE IS MORE

STRAIGHT FROM HER LABEL

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...-swifts-label-says-kanye-west-incident-helped
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bro, that was 4 years ago.  After the incident, i don't doubt that it had some effect then.

but are we really going to say that the VMA thing is the reason for her popularity now?  She was already popular and kids eat up the kind of music she makes, that has nothing to do with Kanye West.  I've no problem giving Kanye his props when it's due, but that's just not the case here....

The only place I ever see anyone even mention that VMA anymore when topic is Taylor Swift is here...

She had big singles well before this Kanye West thing....

The clip you posted even says she had already sold a substantial amount well before this...

People acting like no one knew who she was before Kanye jumped on stage.
 
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Ha! If you think this is going to slow streaming sites like Spotify. This isn't a trend, it's an aberration. For every megastar like Taylor Swift, you have groups like U2 who are finding creative ways to get their album off.

Selling albums are a thing of the past. Unless you're a star of Taylor's caliber
 
I think the people who think Kanye is responsible for Taylors success were actually unaware of Taylor was until the fiasco with Kanye.

Since they didn't know any better, after being aware thanks to kanye, they think its Kanyes doing and not of her own plus her marketing team.

lel
 
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CashBanks said:
i dont think kanye had much to do with her success but it was the first time i ever heard of her but im also no a member of her target audience
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illphillip said:
For interrupting her when she was already winning a high profile award?


OK :lol:


Some of y'all are silly as hell.


And it's usually the ones obsessing over the same dude.
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heLiumcLinton said:
No
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for all you above and anyone else that do not think kayne west blew her career up let me show you this

Taylor had these albums

ONLY 2010,2012 AND 2014 ALBUM MADE PLAT SALES

The Kayne West/Taylor drama went down in the summer of 2009/ Every album Taylor made after that went Plat
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STILL NAH, claiming Kanye is the reason for her success 5 years later is sickening. Get over it.
 
How is this a good thing? I want all the albums being pushed by the music industry to flop so hopefully the commercial crap takes a back seat to good quality music and they start pushing that more.

As for her albums going plat, maybe I'm just spoiled by the 90s but nothing is impressive about it to me. It's only cuz everybody else is struggling that it's really noteworthy.


I can get the whole Ye made Swift relevant thing but that's only cuz I had no idea who she was at all before that moment. If anything though, her team just made sure to capitalize off the opportunity to make her more in everybody's face and on their minds.
 
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bro, that was 4 years ago.  After the incident, i don't doubt that it had some effect then.

but are we really going to say that the VMA thing is the reason for her popularity now?  She was already popular and kids eat up the kind of music she makes, that has nothing to do with Kanye West.  I've no problem giving Kanye his props when it's due, but that's just not the case here....

The only place I ever see anyone even mention that VMA anymore when topic is Taylor Swift is here...

She had big singles well before this Kanye West thing....

The clip you posted even says she had already sold a substantial amount well before this...

People acting like no one knew who she was before Kanye jumped on stage.
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Mayne Im done...zHow you going to try to argue when even her label admitted it! She gained new fans. Fans meaning people her buy her music rather it was back then and now. if west never did that she would not even have those new fans meaning she wouldnt be  popular as she is today and she would have less fans.. Tired of breaking stuff down to 3rd grade level for some of yaw lol
 
heLiumcLinton said:
STILL NAH, claiming Kanye is the reason for her success 5 years later is sickening. Get over it.
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he gave her the career boost and she gained alot of new fans. To this day those fans she gained is still buying her music so yes west is the reason. With out those new fans, west drama exposure she would have been tiny ol taylor swift to this day
 
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Superb said:
CashBanks said:
i dont think kanye had much to do with her success but it was the first time i ever heard of her but im also no a member of her target audience
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illphillip said:
For interrupting her when she was already winning a high profile award?


OK :lol:


Some of y'all are silly as hell.


And it's usually the ones obsessing over the same dude.
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heLiumcLinton said:
No
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for all you above and anyone else that do not think kayne west blew her career up let me show you this

Taylor had these albums

ONLY 2010,2012 AND 2014 ALBUM MADE PLAT SALES

The Kayne West/Taylor drama went down in the summer of 2009/ Every album Taylor made after that went Plat
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What in the **** are you talking about?

The album that came out in 2008, Fearless has done 6.8 MILLION to date.

And I already posted this on the last page.


Fearless was an international breakthrough and commercial success for Swift. In the United States, it topped the Billboard 200 for eleven non-consecutive weeks, thus setting various records, including the longest chart-topper by a female country artist. On Billboard's Country Albums chart, the album logged a record 36 weeks at number one. With 5.2 million copies sold in 2009, the album became the year's best-seller, making Swift, 20 at the time, the youngest artist to have one.

The math is all there. She was MOVING units long before this. Album came out November 2008. VMAs was September 2009.

So you're incredibly wrong. Leave it alone. This ain't even a Kanye thread nor should it be. It's 2014. **** atta here :lol:
 
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Superb said:
 
ServeChilled81 said:
 
bro, that was 4 years ago.  After the incident, i don't doubt that it had some effect then.

but are we really going to say that the VMA thing is the reason for her popularity now?  She was already popular and kids eat up the kind of music she makes, that has nothing to do with Kanye West.  I've no problem giving Kanye his props when it's due, but that's just not the case here....

The only place I ever see anyone even mention that VMA anymore when topic is Taylor Swift is here...

She had big singles well before this Kanye West thing....

The clip you posted even says she had already sold a substantial amount well before this...

People acting like no one knew who she was before Kanye jumped on stage.
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Mayne Im done...zHow you going to try to argue when even her label admitted it! She gained new fans. Fans meaning people her buy her music rather it was back then and now. if west never did that she would not even have those new fans meaning she wouldnt be  popular as she is today and she would have less fans.. Tired of breaking stuff down to 3rd grade level for some of yaw lol
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Im arguing the point because I still am not getting how you're so sure she wouldn't be as popular today without that, when all evidence prior to that event points to the contrary. 

Did she gain fans from the situation, yes.  Is it the reason for her success NO...

A question.  What demographic could Kanye have exposed her to that didn't know of her otherwise?  And how plausible is it that that demo

would still be buying her records 6 years later?
 
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