Open Season on black men by the police continues

12 Million said:
No you didn't say that. But you implied that by recommending they do mandatory testing.


Why else would there be drug/alcohol testing??? To see if they were on drugs/alcohol.....
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It is used as a deterrent against these so called accidental shootings, with bad lighting.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
 
You know what, I think you just have murderous thoughts high and I don't. I know cops who have gotten DUIs but they were off duty. I don't know why ur so hung up on them being high or drunk that you're ignoring the real issue.

Let's put a black box on the police, that's a start. How much of these cops are you expecting to come back with positive drug/alcohol tests. They already get fired for testing positive on random drug tests, you think cops are out here shooting blacks cause they are high?
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Cops are out here killing blacks cause they are seeing imaginary guns on PCP? I get the feeling I'm talking to someone who may have an experience with murderous thoughts when they are intoxicated. But I guess I appreciate this refreshing spin on the issue, it's not the typical they shoot blacks cause they black.
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Again, you deflect, then not dealing with what I've asked you.

The questions were not that hard to deal with, and they weren't loaded questions either.

At no point did I state that the officers were high when any shootings occurred. However, the fact that there is no mandatory drug testing after the discharge of a weapon, clearly states that the PBA knows that they have an issue, therefore not wanting to expose an ongoing problem within police departments.

Let's take Ferguson for an example. They tested Brown for drugs, and he was the one who was killed, but they did not test the officer who shot him.

Now, why is that?
 
LIONBLOOD said:
 
I didn't deflect, someone else has pointed it  out that you think cops are shooting people cause they are drunk/high. You denied it, then made a statement to the contrary. I'm saying if you think cops are killing blacks cause they are drunk OWN UP TO IT.

Cops have mandatory drug testing fairly often, I'd say often enough for MOST of them not to do drugs. But yea let's waste resources testing them, when they come back clean and still killing young black males we could focus on more useful means of preventing these type of situations.
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You are still deflecting, as you completely ignored the question on Ferguson.

I have been very clear.

Deal with what I asked you, and do not bring anyone else's comments into it.

Should police officers be tested for drugs and alcohol, after discharging their weapons?
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
I didn't ignore ur question about Ferguson, I said drug test them....young black males will still be shot and killed by police.
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I still do not see where you've stated that they should be tested for drugs and alcohol, after discharging their weapons anywhere in your posts, but I guess this admission is a start.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
 
I'm not admitting anything, I'm saying you can test them if you want....then we can get rid of it when it doesn't do anything.
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Or we can just put cameras on them to save us both the hassle. You know damn well cops aren't shooting black people on PCP riding around with McLovin.
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Cameras conveniently break, especially if in pursuit of a perp.

Sure, they can use cameras as well, along with blood tests, which do not lie.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
And drug tests don't conveniently come out negative? If some are that corrupt nothing is stopping them from planting drugs on black people, which they have been known to do. I think cameras monitored closely by internal affairs gives the best chance of having objective evidence.
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Your arguments are circular in nature. I've just agreed with you by stating that cameras are fine as well, however, you find a way to create yet another argument.

I see that nothing productive will come out of discussing this matter with you.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
As are yours, you said what's stopping cops from tampering with the cameras? And I asked what makes you think drug testing will be more accurate knowing that can also be abused? Hypocrites are the worst.
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Thanks for proving me correct.
 
A scared rookie shot a dude in his chest for no reason and you're talking about dimly lit stairwells. That's more than "thinking the police are good". That's boot licking.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
Well the first step is establishing if it's "murder". That's what this thread is all about, and its not a simple question to answer because I'm not sure if the police who have been accused of killing people did it in cold blood. They have guns, mistakes happen. They are one of a few professions that literally have people's hands in their lives and not all of them are competent. But I wouldn't accuse a cop of murder until I was absolutely sure, cameras would help and have helped.
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Nah b. Being a cop means you are taking a risk everyday. It does not mean shoot first ask questions later....This aint minority report b, there is no way to tell what someone is going to do. A good cop would rather take a bullet to the leg before shooting an innocent man in a building with bad lighting. Im certainly not in a rush to judge this situation, but lets not act like we don't have a heap of evidence from 100's of cases over the years of similar situations where an innocent person was murdered by police and they get a slap on the wrist, because they getting paid to "protect".......Palease

If any other citizen did this they would be in jail right now, not at the mayo clinic getting tetanus shots.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
Actually sometimes it means shoot and ask questions later. You don't live in the UK, if you perceive a thread you're supposed to shoot to kill.  Like I said some of you guys are super sheltered. Citizens aren't the police, the police have a license to kill. That's like saying if a citizen gave someone a butt implant and they died they'd go to jail but if a doctor is certified to do so and he only gets sued....no ish shirlock.

Cops are NOT CIVILIANS.
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Just because a dude went to community college and the police academy does not mean he has the right to kill. Shoot first ask questions later? You sound like Zimmerman b. 

If cops aren't ruled by laws, what are they ruled by?  
 
SMDH at the title, and calling it open season.  Such buffoonery just fuels more hate, more racial under-tones.  Does race have to mean a thing for either party? OF COURSE NOT.  So stop fanning it already.  What about the open fire at FSU?  How about those 2 Asian kids in So Cal by Javier Bolden.  No need to bring race card so blatantly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/bryan-barnes_n_4732458.html
 
Bravelude said:
SMDH at the title, and calling it open season.  Such buffoonery just fuels more hate, more racial under-tones.  Does race have to mean a thing for either party? OF COURSE NOT.  So stop fanning it already.  What about the open fire at FSU?  How about those 2 Asian kids in So Cal by Javier Bolden.  No need to bring race card so blatantly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/bryan-barnes_n_4732458.html
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Why is it dudes always bring up civilians killing other civilians like that's the same thing?

dudes be deflecting with all their might
 
LIONBLOOD said:
Yea luckily what you think doesn't matter.....cold hard truth.
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Somehow you know my opinion means nothing in the grand scheme of things, yet you ruin entire threads throwing around your useless opinions in a never ending quest for attention.
 
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Why is it dudes always bring up civilians killing other civilians like that's the same thing?

dudes be deflecting with all their might
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Yeah yeah. you missed my point, i was trying to suggest that people should‘nt fan something like this further. It's not the same thing, but there's no need to continuously make it into a race thing. It's not like NT is crazy on 'crime' in general.
 
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