Chi-town heads may be feeling what my NY famb was talking about vol: gentrification

It's going on in every city in America, now people wanna leave surbs and move to the inner city. I was watching my dude that travels, eats great food and drink. I forget his name white hair always wearing glasses. But it's even happening in hood of Jamaica.
 
Fontaine said:
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20141117/garfield-ridge/wall-street-is-chicagos-new-landlord

Seems my chi town famb are going to be saying what my NY famb were saying

They've been buying up all the homes on the south side for a little over two years now..

What is the south sides proximity to downtown?



Also... Do you think it's right?

People always speak on murders but it's actually better than it was 15 years ago...

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Its not even a question of right or wrong

merica gon merica 

this is the land of capitalism and it reigns supreme

To me it seems to be a cyclical pattern. Every few or so generations The haves decide whether being it the city or the suburbs is the thing to do

In NYC they want to be in the city now

I dont know the landscape of the chi but i dont know if itll happen as quickly as it has here

Gentrification sometimes takes a minute

but moves are definitely being made.
 
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Fontaine said:
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20141117/garfield-ridge/wall-street-is-chicagos-new-landlord

Seems my chi town famb are going to be saying what my NY famb were saying

They've been buying up all the homes on the south side for a little over two years now..

What is the south sides proximity to downtown?



Also... Do you think it's right?

People always speak on murders but it's actually better than it was 15 years ago...

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This is nothing new, back in the 60's it was called "redlining". It was a hustle after white flight and segregation, in order for home owners to not lose their investment on their homes due to the neighborhood decline and integration; they simply rented them out. Eventually this turned into a booming business, realtors would pay off local thugs to burn down houses, break in homes, and terrorize neighborhoods to get scared white owners to sell their house dirt cheap, then they'd sell the property to blacks that couldn't afford it. Banking institutions would be in on the hustle too, giving out subprime mortgages that they knew the borrower couldn't pay back.

The Irish gangs used to kill blacks for moving into their neighborhoods, when the gang members came of age, 20's and 30's they became cops and politicians. Vice Lords, GD's, etc...are a result Irish gangs killing blacks.

When gangs fought back, they even involved the FBI ...they killed Fred Hampton, and shot his baby mother while she was pregnant. At a PANTRY and then set it on fire, because they wouldn't accept government money or police "protection"; it was Black Panther funded. They even paid of black politicians because public housing was a sign of shame. Cabrini Green was built on top of an area made infamously dangerous by poor Italians including Al Capone. But to keep blacks from moving into the suburbs, the projects was built and at that time it was more whites on welfare in Chicago than blacks. The whites got section 8 in the suburbs and the excuse was "the neighborhood is too dangerous". However, these blacks were financially stable enough to pay suburban rent or actually be approved for loans. This angered blacks that knew the deal, and the Irish "gangs", or Micks, police officers enforced the segregation aggrandizing the situation. Gangs began self-policing the neighborhoods and conflict was inevitable over what was considered "their blocks". 

Hence Chief Keef and GBE, 300, Lil JoJo, Lamron, Reese etc.... 




Because of the house bubble collapsed in the 00's, and we went into a recession around 2007, gentrification is happening all over America. However gentrification isn't the enemy, lack of community and communication between blacks and whites is. How is it that you can flash dope money, speed up and down the street on quads and exotic vehicles, make it rain at the club...yet you won't buy a $20,000 house in the hood and fix up the neighborhood? Adopt a park, put money into community centers and gardens? Form block associations and clean up the area to make money?
 

You leave a GOLD MINE because you feel ascending into affluent "white neighborhoods" is "successful"...not realizing they have centuries of fortune though patriarchy and racism. Their kids and grand children most likely aren't racist but cultured enough to see the profit and benefits of becoming ONE community and you have these bitter ignorant blacks complaining about someone taking over "their neighborhoods"....which have be stagnant and derilict for decades.


I'm pro gentrification, it's equal opportunity at its best if you apply yourself. If you feel the business does NOTHING for the the community, you have the right not to give it your patronage. You have a right to LIVE in the buildings being purchased and renovated. Problem is many don't know their rights or take advantage of them. Martin Luther King didn't get shot because he wasn't a threat. He changed some **** in this country.



Anyway I'd like to see how Shameless covers this on season 4.
 
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Neighbors on the Northwest and Southwest sides have unwittingly found themselves living among investor-owned rental homes, thanks to a new nationwide gambit by Wall Street. 
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America is following the Europeans. In Europe poor people live on the outskirts of town, the rich/middle class live in the city proper.  America finally getting hip to the game I guess.

I'm tired of this country. Say what you will. Laugh at me. IDC. I'm moving to Canada. Shoot, I'd take my chances in the West Indies over living here. At least the market is ripe for innovative business down there.
 
Gentrification is happening where I live too. See a lot more people out riding they bikes and jogging around the area but a couple years ago they were no where to be found.
 
currensy said:
Gentrification is happening where I live too. See a lot more people out riding they bikes and jogging around the area but a couple years ago they were no where to be found.
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Why is that a bad thing though? Why the mild animosity?
 
currensy said:
Gentrification is happening where I live too. See a lot more people out riding they bikes and jogging around the area but a couple years ago they were no where to be found.
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Why is that a bad thing though? Why the mild animosity?
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He doesnt appreciate his local stores selling organic mayo and kale chips 
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Well to do people are starting to value their leisure time. Poor folks happy to finally own a home in a neighborhood. Even if they have to commute 2 hrs to work
 
There a lot of gentrification happening in Dallas, just in the past 5-10 years some areas have changed a lot. I think its great tho, seeing old hoods being brought back to life and a new mix of people coupled with a rise property value is great. 

I don't really see why some people are so hostile about the change. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
 
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There a lot of gentrification happening in Dallas, just in the past 5-10 years some areas have changed a lot. I think its great tho, seeing old hoods being brought back to life and a new mix of people coupled with a rise property value is great. 

I don't really see why some people are so hostile about the change. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
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It does not eliminate hoods though. If it did that would be great.

What it does is move them. So there is not as much  improvement as it seems
 
keeL252 said:
It's going on in every city in America, now people wanna leave surbs and move to the inner city. I was watching my dude that travels, eats great food and drink. I forget his name white hair always wearing glasses. But it's even happening in hood of Jamaica.
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I was just in Jamaica. Where I was it wasn't that huge of a presence but I did meet some white couples that were retiring there cause they get acres of land for cheap. It's funny though hearing the locals talk about how it's good just cause they get work from it but it is strange to see a village with poor people and at the summit is like a mansion type house.
 
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I was just in Jamaica. Where I was it wasn't that huge of a presence but I did meet some white couples that were retiring there cause they get acres of land for cheap. It's funny though hearing the locals talk about how it's good just cause they get work from it but it is strange to see a village with poor people and at the summit is like a mansion type house.
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Yup i always troll my mom with this ish

The island where my other is from has like 3 billionaires that live there and different pionts of the year

i always tell her that the nice stuff there is not for the people from there 
 
I was told this is how the Chi begin to be known as Chiraq.  This has already been happening out there for like the past ten years.  Hints the spike in violence, because gangs are being up rooted from there established turf then tossed in other gangs territories.
 
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Simple, the way "bike riding" was introduced into the discussion indicated that it isn't a common occurrence. Secondly, "no where to be found" is an idiom that expresses not only EMOTION, but to the EXTENT which someone searched for reaffirmation to what they FELT to be true; which was disappointment.

Capisce? Which happens to be NATIVE tongue for "understand" among ITALIANS, not Jim Crow South black Americans, who didn't MIGRATE there until 1930's. After it was already established as "the ghetto", where poor whites lived and Cabrini Green was called "Murder Way".


You mad tight and filled with animosity and don't even know why 
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Yea bro you're a few decades late on this one.

For example I'm born and raised in the South Shore neighborhood on the Southside. As the name suggests it's right near he lake (about a mile or 2 south of Soldier Field... right off Lake Shore Drive, easy shot Downtown via car,bus, or train). They've been working on gentrifying the lakefront for yeeeeaaaarrrss!! Growing up, a gunshot was like a doorbell around my house, I went back home a few months ago I rode back through and ta good 6-7 apartments ON A SINGLE BLOCK had been converted to Condos, including my old crib!

Meanwhile, I also lived in the South suburbs for a bit, and they were getting progressively lower class as we were out there (mainly after they tore the projects down). Businesses out there continue to close, and I saw more abandoned houses than ever

So yea bro, this is nothing new on the Southside. I honestly can't figure out how I feel about it though... on 1 side, I like seeing my neighborhood come up, get new businesses, etc. But at the same time, my people are basically being herded out of the place they call home.
 
keeL252 said:
It's going on in every city in America, now people wanna leave surbs and move to the inner city. I was watching my dude that travels, eats great food and drink. I forget his name white hair always wearing glasses. But it's even happening in hood of Jamaica.
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Anthony Bourdain. Residents losing their beach side properties :smh: .
 
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