NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.

So am I following right?

Some of the dudes in here complaining about low marriages rates for black people, are black and unmarried

Oh well, that's interesting

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That's not a lack of intelligence; it's an inability to admit they haven't considered information that may invalidate their position.

Is It Marriage Itself or the Kind of People Who Marry (and Stay Married) That Makes the Difference?

It is often suggested that the positive effects of marriage on child well-being are likely derived not from marriage itself but from the distinctive characteristics of the individuals who marry and stay married (known as the “selection effect”). In many of the more recent studies, researchers have attempted to control for most of these selection effects through various statistical methods.45 For example, research on women with a first premarital pregnancy leading to a birth found those who had “shotgun” weddings (i.e., who married while they were pregnant) experienced a poverty rate of less than half of those who did not marry. (46)

There may be certain benefits to marriage, such as access to health insurance and tax advantages, that contribute to the increased likelihood of child well-being. In addition, it remains possible that those who marry also have attributes unmeasured in existing surveys—such as commitment, loyalty, and future orientation—that distinguish them from those who don’t marry and stay married. It is also possible that marriage itself—the actual act of getting married—changes the attitudes and behaviors of couples in positive ways, as well as those of others towards them.

What Is the Relationship Between Marriage and Poverty?

Children living with single mothers are five times as likely to be poor as those in two-parent families. Some economists have attributed virtually all of the 25 percent increase in child poverty between 1970 and 1997 to the growth of single-parent families. But are single parents poor because they are not married, or would they have remained poor even if they married available partners? While it is difficult to disentangle the effects of income and family structure, clearly the relationship operates in both directions: poverty is both cause and effect of single parenthood.

For example, research evidence indicates that in low-income, African American communities, the high rate of male unemployment is one of the factors that explains why low-income mothers do not marry.49 Serious and long-term financial stress can also wreak havoc on a marriage, and 8 this may lead to marital breakup.50
Moreover, poverty and single parenthood reinforce each other. Growing up in an environment of poverty places a child at risk for not completing school, for becoming a teen parent, and for being unemployed, which are all characteristics that make it less likely that the child will eventually marry or that she or he will stay married. But do low-income parents gain similar economic advantages from getting married as does the population as a whole?

Recent economic simulation studies have found that if two poor unmarried parents marry they are less likely to be poor.51 Economist Robert Lerman found that married parents suffered less economic hardship than cohabiting parents with the same low income and education.52 Among the apparent explanations were that married parents are more likely to pool their earnings, husbands work longer hours and earn more, and married families receive more assistance from family, friends, and the community. While marriage itself will not lift a family out of poverty, it may reduce material hardship.
However, marriage appears to be less of a protector against poverty for Hispanic families than for others.53

Conclusion:

Research indicates that, on average, children who grow up in families with both their biological parents in a low-conflict marriage are better off in a number of ways than children who grow up in single-, step- or cohabiting-parent households. Compared to children who are raised by their married parents, children in other family types are more likely to achieve lower levels of education, to become teen parents, and to experience health, behavior, and mental health problems. And children in single- and cohabiting-parent families are more likely to be poor.

This being said, most children not living with married, biological parents grow up without serious problems. In individual situations, marriage may or may not make children better off, depending on whether the marriage is “healthy” and stable. Marriage may also be a proxy for other parental characteristics that are associated with relationship stability and positive child outcomes. The legal basis and public support involved in the institution of marriage helps to create the most likely conditions for the development of factors that children need most to thrive—consistent, 9 stable, loving attention from two parents who cooperate and who have sufficient resources and support from two extended families, two sets of friends, and society. Marriage is not a guarantee of these conditions, however, and these conditions exist in other family circumstances, but they are less likely to.

= Choose your mate wisely and be responsible / accountable BEFORE you get married / have kids.

Treat it like a sneaker release.

People spend more time looking for glue stains on Jordans than character flaws in their mates / themselves - then wonder why it all falls down.


(46) 20 percent versus 47 percent. Lerman (2002b). Married and Unmarried Parenthood and Economic Well-Being: A Dynamic Analysis of a Recent Cohort. Washington, DC: Urban Institute. Available online at www.urban.org.

(47) Amato, P. (2000). The consequences of divorce for adults and children. Journal of Marriage and the Family 62(4), 1269-1287

Dawson, D. (1991, June). Family Structure and Children’s Health: United States, 1988. Series 10: Data from the National Health Survey No. 178. Washington, DC: Centers for Disease Control, National Center for Health Statistics, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Dawson (1991).

(48 ) Amato, P. (2000). The consequences of divorce for adults and children. Journal of Marriage and the Family 62(4), 1269-1287

(49) Wilson, W.J. (1996). When Work Disappears: The World of the New Urban Poor. New York: Alfred A. Knopf; Edin, K., (2000, January 2). Few good men: Why poor mothers don’t marry or remarry. The American Prospect, 11, 26-31.

(50) Amato, P., & Booth, A. (1997). A Generation at Risk: Growing Up in an Era of Family Upheaval. Cambridge MA: Harvard University Press.

(51) Lerman, R. (1996). The impact of the changing U.S. family structure on poverty and income inequality. Economica, 63, S119-S139; Thomas, A., & Sawhill, I. (2002). For richer for poorer: Marriage as an antipoverty strategy. Journal of Policy Analysis and Management, 21. 587-599.

(52) Lerman (2002a); and Lerman (2002b). 20 percent versus 47 percent. Lerman (2002b). Married and Unmarried Parenthood and Economic Well-Being: A Dynamic Analysis of a Recent Cohort. Washington, DC: Urban Institute. Available online at www.urban.org.

(53) Proctor, B., & Dalaker, J. (2002, September). Poverty in the United States: 2001. Current Population Reports. Washington, DC: U.S. Census Bureau, P60-219, see Table 1. Available at: www.census.gov.
 
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I'm not arguing that marriage is the end all be all solution for improving the Black community but what is so wrong with it as a concrete step? Even two people getting married and combining their income will have benefits. They can buy a house, save on groceries and other bills etc.

Also someone mentioned sex ed reduces teen pregnancy. That's another concrete step to me.

It's too much mud slinging and not enough coming together to find concrete steps
 
She didn't go to the police
Apparently you don’t need the police for a civil suit.

Yeah I know, but it's become we think Bill is guilty of his other crimes, so we're going to make him pay for this.

If some girl says you had sex with her five years ago, how do you prove that didn't happen?
Account for where you were 5 years ago and have some proof.

Or have money for better lawyers.
 
She didn't go to the police
I mean you asked how people prove something. The answer is: photos, video, witness testimony. You can't then pivot to "she didn't go to the police!" when you get the answer you didn't want :lol:

Also, it's not a criminal case. It's a civil lawsuit. She doesn't have to go to the police. I can stab you repeatedly tomorrow. You don't have to go to the police. You can still sue me for medical bills and damages.
 
I mean you asked how people prove something. The answer is: photos, video, witness testimony. You can't then pivot to "she didn't go to the police!" when you get the answer you didn't want :lol:

Also, it's not a criminal case. It's a civil lawsuit. She doesn't have to go to the police. I can stab you repeatedly tomorrow. You don't have to go to the police. You can still sue me for medical bills and damages.

Read the details
 
The Cosby lawyer began her closing arguments by saying, “It’s on like Donkey Kong,” and finished by declaring, “game over.”

Huth’s attorney reacted with outrage during his rebuttal.

“This is about justice!” he shouted, pounding on the podium. “We don’t need game over! We need justice!”



What kind of defense attorney uses video game references during closing arguments at a rape trial?

This kind...



But Jennifer Bonjean, a lawyer for Mr. Cosby, worked to persuade the jury in the Santa Monica courthouse that it was not shame but racism that had led her to be so reticent about her trip to the Playboy Mansion with a friend and Mr. Cosby.

“You didn’t tell anyone about it because Mr. Cosby is a Black man and that’s not OK in your community,” Ms. Bonjean said.

Ms. Huth, who lived in Temple City, Calif., at the time, said that wasn’t the case and that, in fact, some members of her family were Black.
The volleying over Ms. Huth’s motivations came on her third day on the stand in the trial where she is seeking damages on grounds that Mr. Cosby forced her to perform a sex act on him in an isolated bedroom at the mansion.


She really tried to create Emmet Till Cosby out of thin air. :smh::smh::smh:
 
The "Donkey Kong defense" came into play against on Monday, when Cosby’s attorney pressed a key witness over previous statements that she had played the arcade game during a visit with Cosby to the Playboy Mansion in 1975, six years before its release. The testimony came in the Los Angeles County trial over the lawsuit of Judy Huth, who also began testifying Monday, but did not yet describe her allegation that Cosby sexually assaulted her at the Playboy Mansion when she was 16. Cosby denies her allegations.

Cosby was not required to attend the trial.

Basically, his defense was that she stated they were playing a video game that didn't release until the 80's.
 
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