NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.

Master Zik said:
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I know he admitted more in detail what he did to police.

I've seen vids of him joking about Spanish fly and what not but I've never seen Cosby going on tv and openly say he drugged and raped women and everybody just acted like he aint say nothing.

Also again, now you're telling me your theory is Cosby admitted he's a rapist on tv and the cabal protected a dumbass move like that? :lol:
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Spanish fly, back then, was fabeled to do what molly does now.

And what has Cee-lo and Rick Ross taught us?

He was on TV talking about giving women substances unknowingly for the purpose of have sex...what changed?
 
youngwolf said:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-cosby-quaaludes-sexual-assault-allegations/


The guy is scum in its purest form.
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Lawyers are experts at phrasing things in a certain way...

As I expected, the wording of that is funky.

You invite over a chick to drink with her. You have no liquor in your house.

At the liquor store someone asks, "Are you buying that alcohol so you can drink with a woman that you want to have sex with?"

Are you buying the alcohol for the woman/because she's coming over? Yes.

Are you attracted to her and do you want to have sex with her? Yes.

So the answer to that question is yes.

But you're not buying the alcohol to get her blackout drunk so you can **** her passed out body. You being attracted enough to her to want to have sex with her doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with y'all recreationally drinking or doing drugs.

The lawyer knows this, which is why he DIDN'T ask "Are you going to use the quaaludes SO you can have sex with these women?" i.e. the quaaludes are the reason you'd be able to **** them.

Two different questions. Lawyers careers are built off of ambiguous wording and creating a narrative.

So I don't really view that quote as damning as headlines would have you believe.
 
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Tr1ll said:
Master Zik said:
Vid? Year?

I know he admitted more in detail what he did to police.

I've seen vids of him joking about Spanish fly and what not but I've never seen Cosby going on tv and openly say he drugged and raped women and everybody just acted like he aint say nothing.

Also again, now you're telling me your theory is Cosby admitted he's a rapist on tv and the cabal protected a dumbass move like that? :lol:
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Spanish fly, back then, was fabeled to do what molly does now.

And what has Cee-lo and Rick Ross taught us?

He was on TV talking about giving women substances unknowingly for the purpose of have sex...what changed?
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The hell are you asking? What's your angle here?
 
Tr1ll said:
Master Zik said:
Vid? Year?

I know he admitted more in detail what he did to police.

I've seen vids of him joking about Spanish fly and what not but I've never seen Cosby going on tv and openly say he drugged and raped women and everybody just acted like he aint say nothing.

Also again, now you're telling me your theory is Cosby admitted he's a rapist on tv and the cabal protected a dumbass move like that? :lol:
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Spanish fly, back then, was fabeled to do what molly does now.
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In this one vid just posted, Cosby says he's yet to get his hands on Spanish Fly. That's his implication but I aint sure of the context given the vid only plays a clip.

And what has Cee-lo and Rick Ross taught us?
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What does that have to do with Cosby drugging women and raping them? He jokes about it in that vid.

You can't arrest somebody for making jokes about rape or making songs about it.

Are you saying rape culture is accepted so there's nothing wrong with actually raping women?

I'm lost on what your point is now and how this goes back to the Hollywood cabal protecting him or not.
He was on TV talking about giving women substances unknowingly for the purpose of have sex...what changed?
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He was on tv joking about it.

What changed? :lol:

Women came forward and accused Cosby of actually doing it. The police found enough evidence to charge Cosby with the crime of rape.
 
People keep saying this...

But in the 60's and 70's...was he THAT on...

He was in movies prior to Cosby yes, and had a few stand up specials...

But saying he could just let a rape allegation slide off him in the late 60's and 70's is like saying Kevin Hart in 2008 could just fall back from a rape charge. Or Chappelle in 99.
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They're referring more to the 80's. That's when Bill was damn near the most powerful black man in America.

No one is saying Bill has been "untouchable" his entire life. He was a well-known powerful player though for years even before the 80's and one with connections.

Stand up comedy, I Spy (3-straight Emmys for outstanding lead), Fat Albert, The Bill Cosby Show ('69), Public television (Picture Pages, etc), and movies.

Cosby has always had some pull, he always used that to his advantage with the women, and he apparently used his routine whether in the 70's, 80's, or 90's and beyond. He perfected the move....and the women to do the move to.

Let's hear about a couple of women and their experience. Then we'll let NT proceed to think for them, and preach this is their fault.

Barbara Bowman, 1985:

"Back then, the incident was so horrifying that I had trouble admitting it to myself, let alone to others. But I first told my agent, who did nothing. (Cosby sometimes came to her office to interview people for “The Cosby Show” and other acting jobs.) A girlfriend took me to a lawyer, but he accused me of making the story up. Their dismissive responses crushed any hope I had of getting help; I was convinced no one would listen to me. That feeling of futility is what ultimately kept me from going to the police. I told friends what had happened, and although they sympathized with me, they were just as helpless to do anything about it. I was a teenager from Denver acting in McDonald’s commercials. He was Bill Cosby: consummate American dad Cliff Huxtable and the Jell-O spokesman. Eventually, I had to move on with my life and my career."

Linda Traitz, 1969:

Traitz met Cosby while working as a waitress at Café Figaro in Los Angeles. The comedian offered to drive her home one night, but instead he took her to a beach. They parked and he pulled out a briefcase full of pills. He told her to take one to relax, but Traitz declined. He became angry. He groped her and tried to climb on top of her. Traitz pushed Cosby away, and fended him off. “I was assaulted, but I wasn’t raped,” she says. She came forward on Facebook in November 2014 after seeing comments from people attacking one of Cosby’s victims. “I blamed myself at the time. I thought I did something wrong. This happened when I was 18. It took me a long, long time to come to terms with the fact that it was him, it wasn’t me.

Linda Kirkpatrick, 1981:

“I didn’t come forward before. I was a coward. I felt, at 25, if I revealed what a big celebrity with a seemingly family-oriented persona had done, that I’d be called a liar, like many of the victims have been. I was afraid and I was embarrassed.”

Joan Tarshis:

“I didn’t realize that I had been raped. Back then, rape was done in an alleyway with somebody holding a knife to your throat that you didn’t know. There was no date rape back then. I just knew that something horrible had happened. But I couldn’t put a name to it. The difference between this and that rape in the dark alley is that his face would be before me every week on TV. People would mention a joke that he said: ‘Wasn’t that funny?’ And all the while, my stomach would just be churning.”

Marcella Tate, 1975:

“In 1975, it wasn’t an issue that was even discussed. Rape was being beaten up in a park. I understood at the time that it was wrong, but I just internalized it and dealt with it and pushed it down, and it resided in a very private place. It affects your trust with other people.”

Helen Gumpel, 1987:

“It was never a secret (after it happened). I told people. I even told a big columnist, a gossip columnist, but to tell you the truth, at that time, no one wanted to attack Bill Cosby. He was the No. 1 comedian in the world. He was a massive money-maker, and who would believe someone with no power — a woman with no power?”



There we have it....women blaming themselves, not knowing what's going on. Not exactly the typical words of people doing a witch hunt. And having their inner circles time after time tell them to shut up about it for their own good.

Kinda makes sense now why women were not streaming into police stations in the old days.
 
That 3rd underlined quote is the most telling.

I remember when rape was only scene as being held at knife/gunpoint in an alley to women going home late at night in the city. It was depicted in movies and tv as that's what rape was.

That's how tons of rapes on college campuses, in the work place, and other places went unreported.
 
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Kelly Kapowski interviewing Cosby's lawyer.
Chick is a beast
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This chick raw. 
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RyGuy45 said:
Kinda makes sense now why women were not streaming into police stations in the old days.
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It doesn't really make sense at all.

I'm sorry, call me whatever names you want, but I really have a hard time believing that out of FORTY white women...all of them had apprehensions and doubts that a black man accused of rape in the late 60's-70's wouldn't be taken seriously.

I'm not saying Cosby is completely innocent in all 40 cases, but something does not add up here where all of a sudden, with our knowledge of the history between black men, white women and sex in the legal justice system, especially in that time period, I'm supposed to believe he was looked at as teflon because he was on television and movies?

MAYBE you could make that argument once he became "America's Dad", but for the cases prior to the 80's? Nah.

And even during/post-Cosby Show...They got the ***** who made Thriller...but I'm supposed to believe Hollywood's vicious paparazzi/gossip industry wanted no parts of "America's Dad" being a serial coochie taker?
 
FLESH PRINCE said:
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It doesn't really make sense at all.

I'm sorry, call me whatever names you want, but I really have a hard time believing that out of FORTY white women...all of them had apprehensions and doubts that a black man accused of rape in the late 60's-70's wouldn't be taken seriously.

I'm not saying Cosby is completely innocent in all 40 cases, but something does not add up here where all of a sudden, with our knowledge of the history between black men, white women and sex in the legal justice system, especially in that time period, I'm supposed to believe he was looked at as teflon because he was on television and movies?

MAYBE you could make that argument once he became "America's Dad", but for the cases prior to the 80's? Nah.

And even during/post-Cosby Show...They got the ***** who made Thriller...but I'm supposed to believe Hollywood's vicious paparazzi/gossip industry wanted no parts of "America's Dad" being a serial coochie taker?
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You notice how it's ok to have to multiple rebuttals to your suggestion?

"Maybe they were afraid to come forward like many rape victims"

"Maybe Hollywood was protecting Bill Cosby"

"Maybe they didn't know they were raped"

But the minute someone suggests "maybe these ******* are lying"...all of a sudden there's no way that's possible.
 
It's sad that so many are more concerned over the death of a black idol than they are the 50 women that suffered at the hands of this piece of ****. You could glean a lot about how a man views women in general by asking them who they think the real victim is here.
 
I mean if you strictly see this from a race perspective I can see why you're having such a hard time grasping this.

I'd just say educate yourself more on how criminals, rapists specifically choose their victims.

Not every white women has the confidence and courage or the racist mind frame to fearlessly go to police and tell them they were raped by Bill Cosby.

Overall, I'd say you really need to look up how many women do not come forward about being raped and how long it takes some to admit and come forward.
 
He put out 19 comedy albums and 7 music albums before the Cosby Show...won 4 Emmys and 8 Grammys before the Cosby Show...had a star on the walk of fame before the Cosby Show...three television shows before The Cosby Show...hundreds of television appearances...

The Cosby Show was his peak, but he was hardly obscure before then
 
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Mark Antony said:
Tr1ll said:
Master Zik said:
Vid? Year?

I know he admitted more in detail what he did to police.

I've seen vids of him joking about Spanish fly and what not but I've never seen Cosby going on tv and openly say he drugged and raped women and everybody just acted like he aint say nothing.

Also again, now you're telling me your theory is Cosby admitted he's a rapist on tv and the cabal protected a dumbass move like that? :lol:
Click to expand...

Spanish fly, back then, was fabeled to do what molly does now.

And what has Cee-lo and Rick Ross taught us?

He was on TV talking about giving women substances unknowingly for the purpose of have sex...what changed?
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The hell are you asking? What's your angle here?
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There isnt an angle. Why would there even be an angle?

Theres nothing no one on NT can do about this case. Im just talking like everyone else.

Master Zik said:
Tr1ll said:
Master Zik said:
Vid? Year?

I know he admitted more in detail what he did to police.

I've seen vids of him joking about Spanish fly and what not but I've never seen Cosby going on tv and openly say he drugged and raped women and everybody just acted like he aint say nothing.

Also again, now you're telling me your theory is Cosby admitted he's a rapist on tv and the cabal protected a dumbass move like that? :lol:
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Spanish fly, back then, was fabeled to do what molly does now.
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In this one vid just posted, Cosby says he's yet to get his hands on Spanish Fly. That's his implication but I aint sure of the context given the vid only plays a clip.

And what has Cee-lo and Rick Ross taught us?
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What does that have to do with Cosby drugging women and raping them? He jokes about it in that vid.

You can't arrest somebody for making jokes about rape or making songs about it.

Are you saying rape culture is accepted so there's nothing wrong with actually raping women?
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****, tell that to TSA, but you're obviously of superior intellect, how did you see through my subterfuge?

Seriously tho. How did you not bleed when you reached up and pulled that one out of youre ***?

I'm lost on what your point is now and how this goes back to the Hollywood cabal protecting him or not.
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Understandable.
He was on TV talking about giving women substances unknowingly for the purpose of have sex...what changed?
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He was on tv joking about it.

What changed? :lol:

Women came forward and accused Cosby of actually doing it. The police found enough evidence to charge Cosby with the crime of rape.
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But they had evidence and women tesifing then.

Seem like people knew about this for a while. Why bring up the charges now?

Im not saying they're lying or he did/or didnt do it. Why did we have to wait till it got to 50?
 
Master Zik said:
Not every white women has the confidence and courage or the racist mind frame to fearlessly go to police and tell them they were raped by Bill Cosby.
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I'd say this thread is indicative of why many victims are trepidatious about coming forward.

Historically, victims of sexual abuse are the ones who are tried in the court of public opinion, not the rapist.

"why were you even with him?"
"why were you hanging out with a married man?"
"why were you wearing something so revealing?"
"you were flirting"
"he could have anyone, why would he rape you?"
"you're just regretting it now"
 
Has anyone questioned the women who allege that they were raped more than once?

Like...is it possible to be so distraught and torn apart from being raped...that somehow you decide to go back for more?
 
It doesn't really make sense at all.

I'm sorry, call me whatever names you want, but I really have a hard time believing that out of FORTY white women...all of them had apprehensions and doubts that a black man accused of rape in the late 60's-70's wouldn't be taken seriously.

I'm not saying Cosby is completely innocent in all 40 cases, but something does not add up here where all of a sudden, with our knowledge of the history between black men, white women and sex in the legal justice system, especially in that time period, I'm supposed to believe he was looked at as teflon because he was on television and movies

MAYBE you could make that argument once he became "America's Dad", but for the cases prior to the 80's? Nah.

And even during/post-Cosby Show...They got the ***** who made Thriller...but I'm supposed to believe Hollywood's vicious paparazzi/gossip industry wanted no parts of "America's Dad" being a serial coochie taker?
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Just because you were not around in the 70s to experience how powerful Cosby was does not mean Cosby was not powerful. With the things he did and the people he ran with he was as powerful of a black man in Hollywood as there was even before Cosby Show (essentially because as we know, many were not allowed into the club).

You have to understand something. You are not talking about regular "white women" walking around the street being molested by Cos in a ski mask. These were women of all races in the entertainment industry dealing with Bill Cosby. Many women on the cusp of getting in based on their talent alone. And they had handlers familiar with Bill Cosby telling them "maybe you just remembered incorrectly, let's just keep it to ourselves. You don't wanna rock the boat."

Is that so hard to comprehend that this could happen to multiple women? In an age with no Twitter or Facebook and these women living in multiple states not knowing each other or knowing he is doing this to others? And with the stigma that "real rape" in the 70s was by a stranger in an alleyway with a knife to their throat?

I mean if you strictly see this from a race perspective I can see why you're having such a hard time grasping this.

I'd just say educate yourself more on how criminals, rapists specifically choose their victims.

Not every white women has the confidence and courage or the racist mind frame to fearlessly go to police and tell them they were raped by Bill Cosby.

Overall, I'd say you really need to look up how many women do not come forward about being raped and how long it takes some to admit and come forward.
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Pretty much.
 
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