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It's ok to indict bill Cosby because of the number of accusers apparently.
NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.
It's ok to indict bill Cosby because of the number of accusers apparently.
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Yeah. Not the evidence supporting it.
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What are these dudes even saying. All of that is wrong. I understand the emotions though.
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Some of you are being real extra. This thread is a good reminder of how it's a man's world and it really sucks to be a woman in it sometimes. Yes there are those who make false accusations but for those who have been assaulted the whole process of reporting it and having to deal with doubters and all the emotions is probably a lot to handle.
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The information that was provided to the public?
The statements by Cosby and the victims?
I mean that's the key info. If YOU want to question what Cosby said or what the victims said as false or doctored go ahead an pursue that.
Me saying there have been issues from corruption to incompetence doesn't mean I'm not gonna take what victims and Bill Cosby say for what it is.
If that was the case I wouldn't post in this thread at all because you'd be left in a state where you can't believe anything. I know I never took that stance. Never said anything about absolute truths either
If you didnt believe it to be true, why did you bring it up as a reference?
inb4 you never said you didnt believe it to be true.
So you dont even know if it exists but throwing out the possiblities?
[/quote]He may just be playing contrarian for the hell of it and low key trolling.
Son seemed to have abandoned reason when he went left with the Hollywood cabal conspiracy theory
I was never eem on that theory. I just think its funny how "power" works in this thread.
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I used to like cosby.
Great guy...comedic legend.....arguably goat show
I WISH none of this was a thing. Wish he coulda went out with no asterisk on his life.
Im not saying hes 100% guilty or innocent
But just bein a regular cat lookin in
It dont look so good for ol boy lol
its just a huge mess.
Great guy...comedic legend.....arguably goat show
I WISH none of this was a thing. Wish he coulda went out with no asterisk on his life.
Im not saying hes 100% guilty or innocent
But just bein a regular cat lookin in
It dont look so good for ol boy lol
its just a huge mess.
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Who's emotional , I'm asking honest questions.
Because like somebody said, it's fine when the questions are about Pill. But as soon as somebody wants to look at any of these women and wonder why this or that, it's a problem and there's just no possible way any of these women could be lying.
It's ok to look at both sides of the story.
, I'm asking honest questions.Because like somebody said, it's fine when the questions are about Pill. But as soon as somebody wants to look at any of these women and wonder why this or that, it's a problem and there's just no possible way any of these women could be lying.
It's ok to look at both sides of the story.
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I see a number of posts that question some of the women's accusations and motives.
Can you also understand why truthful victims wouldn't come forward?
Can you also understand why truthful victims wouldn't come forward?
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Believe what to be true? What are you talking about?The information that was provided to the public?
The statements by Cosby and the victims?
I mean that's the key info. If YOU want to question what Cosby said or what the victims said as false or doctored go ahead an pursue that.
Me saying there have been issues from corruption to incompetence doesn't mean I'm not gonna take what victims and Bill Cosby say for what it is.
If that was the case I wouldn't post in this thread at all because you'd be left in a state where you can't believe anything. I know I never took that stance. Never said anything about absolute truths either
If you didnt believe it to be true, why did you bring it up as a reference?
You asked me if I thought the situation was handled poorly and I answered you.
Then you ask me why I would believe information provided by these institutions after you claimed none of us knew "what the hell is what"
So what are you talking about?
Believe what to be true?
The depositions? The statements? The accusations? Bill denying it? What are you talking about?
Haven't you been paying attention? They were already posted. I just added that depositions are usually video taped so why wouldn't I believe Cosby said what he said? You're claiming there's a reason not to believe this particular piece of evidence because I said there's been incompetence and corruption in the law enforcement and legal system.
I'm asking you why I shouldn't believe Cosby said what he said? What specific reason would I have to think he didn't say that? Just because a person thinks incompetence and corruption is present in an institution doesn't mean you discredit every single criminal case they handle. Putting the institution in question aside claiming we don't know "what the hell is what" would still be incorrect.
Cosby admitting he gave drugs to have sex with women was for a completely other case a few years ago that was posted in here.
You ask me about believing what these institutions provide as absolute truth which I never claimed. I specifically cite the statements by the victims and Cosby as examples of what we know. Are you saying I shouldn't even believe they said that?
a.k.a. Trolling?
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Not to dismiss dude, because I'm sure he has some legit statements, but I usually see him post contradictory statements in threads to no real point, "just talking".
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I've been noticing that for a while now too.
100+ posts in this thread and he's talking to me and asking me questions like this thread was created this morning and we on pg 2.
100+ posts in this thread and he's talking to me and asking me questions like this thread was created this morning and we on pg 2.
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Wasn't trying to turn this into a conspiracy thing. But with all the things that come out on celebrities over the years it's led me to believe that. In his case I would say they knew he was drugging and raping women but used their power and influence to keep it under wraps. He now did something to against the hollywood elite and now all this comes out. By ending careers I meant assaniation of character and an end to their wealth by paying lawyers, courts, bail, settlements or jail.
Look at Brian Singer, he's been raping boys for how long now using the same methods? But he's still protected. Let him slip up and you'll see that turn in to the next Cosby trial.
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Which was?
This is important if you're saying there's an entity that protects the crimes of famous ppl and when they feel slighted stop protecting them and cut them loose.
I mean we already had ppl try to make this about him trying to but NBC when that was in the 90s. Then it switched to what he has been telling the black community when he's been telling the same **** again since the 90s and even way before that, key point here is nobody really listens to Bill Cosby as a leader in the black community anymore and haven't for quite some time now.
Yall can't even come up with good reasons for what he did to get turned on. Either way in your scenario, Cosby did drug and rape these women and he's not even gonna be punished for raping all of them.
I could make up some wild **** about aliens no longer having a use for Cosby and this is why he's now getting drowned in rape accusations. It's really just about how you can spin some bull **** long enough for ppl to believe it regardless of proof or evidence or reason.
I don't see the point of this angle. If you want to bring this Hollywood elite to justice go do that. If you reveal them, I'll support your efforts.
First time I heard of Singer raping anybody was last year or 2 years ago. Somebody openly accused him and then I think it just went away either cuz no charges were ever filed or it got dropped.
Is there any proof to him doing that though? You just said it like we know for a fact and I honestly am not informed on everything about this pretty average director.
You keep making this about being protected by the Hollywood elite when we got non-famous rapists, pedophiles, and murderers every day doing their thing until hey mess up and get caught or a surviving victim goes to police. So why can't this be the same situation for the famous person? They eventually messed up and got caught or victims come forward. Only difference is they got money to possibly make it go away or draw it out to a point they never see the inside of a jail let alone a prison. I don't see why a secret elite society has to come in to play who control this and do this for reasons you'll never find ever.
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Allred got the Tyga chick, she's a sniper.
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There's a doc about Singer and another guy who had mansion parties with young boys trying to come up in hollywood and everything that went on there. Not trying to derail this thread so look it up.
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I have a hard time understanding the rationale of anyone in this thread trying to play contrarian or devil's advocate.
Is there a chance some of these women lied? Yes. Is there a chance all of them lied? Highly unlikely, especially considering these allegations have dated back all the way to 1965, more than fifty years ago. The allegations come from a multitude of women from various decades who don't know each other. So what is the likelihood of these women (who are not all white) conspiring against a man who has already made his money? Damn near improbable.
We've seen evidence of the guy making jokes about drugging women...doesn't that seem awfully suspicious considering his clean cut comedy act? You're telling me the polar opposite of Richard Pryor sprinkled in jokes about drugging women? Any reasonable person identifies that as a major red flag. Does the number of women he raped really matter? He committed an unforgivable act regardless. Ten percent of the accusers could be actually telling the truth, that doesn't exclude him of his crimes. People have brought up the fact that "What were they expecting when they went to see him alone?" or "These women are cheaters, shame on them" but you're willing to highlight the sins of the accused because...? It seems to me as if we are actively trying to rationalize his actions. Even if all the sex Cosby had was consensual, it'd still make him a cheater himself. That's not exactly a desirable label to have.
Some you are not defending Bill per se, but you wait for the legal process to play out. But the growing number of accusations, coupled with the identical alibis, past statements, the fact that Bill said he had acquired quaaludes to have sex with women...the most logical conclusion is that because Bill carved himself a persona that casts doubt on whether or not he is capable of rape, he took advantage of numerous women looking to elevate their status in Hollywood.
I'm not ignoring the gross injustice that blacks have received in America's legal system, but believing that Cosby is part of a conspiracy to bring down black elites is BS, and is an insult to those like Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc. who Cosby would have detested. The betrayal no one talks about is Cosby selling out with his pound cake speech...a guy who grew up in Philly telling young blacks to pull up their pants, stop focusing on consumer culture, etc. and suddenly the institutional racism and inequality they face will disappear. If that isn't the biggest crock of **** ever, you might've thought Manti Te'o had a girlfriend in his college career.
Is there a chance some of these women lied? Yes. Is there a chance all of them lied? Highly unlikely, especially considering these allegations have dated back all the way to 1965, more than fifty years ago. The allegations come from a multitude of women from various decades who don't know each other. So what is the likelihood of these women (who are not all white) conspiring against a man who has already made his money? Damn near improbable.
We've seen evidence of the guy making jokes about drugging women...doesn't that seem awfully suspicious considering his clean cut comedy act? You're telling me the polar opposite of Richard Pryor sprinkled in jokes about drugging women? Any reasonable person identifies that as a major red flag. Does the number of women he raped really matter? He committed an unforgivable act regardless. Ten percent of the accusers could be actually telling the truth, that doesn't exclude him of his crimes. People have brought up the fact that "What were they expecting when they went to see him alone?" or "These women are cheaters, shame on them" but you're willing to highlight the sins of the accused because...? It seems to me as if we are actively trying to rationalize his actions. Even if all the sex Cosby had was consensual, it'd still make him a cheater himself. That's not exactly a desirable label to have.
Some you are not defending Bill per se, but you wait for the legal process to play out. But the growing number of accusations, coupled with the identical alibis, past statements, the fact that Bill said he had acquired quaaludes to have sex with women...the most logical conclusion is that because Bill carved himself a persona that casts doubt on whether or not he is capable of rape, he took advantage of numerous women looking to elevate their status in Hollywood.
I'm not ignoring the gross injustice that blacks have received in America's legal system, but believing that Cosby is part of a conspiracy to bring down black elites is BS, and is an insult to those like Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc. who Cosby would have detested. The betrayal no one talks about is Cosby selling out with his pound cake speech...a guy who grew up in Philly telling young blacks to pull up their pants, stop focusing on consumer culture, etc. and suddenly the institutional racism and inequality they face will disappear. If that isn't the biggest crock of **** ever, you might've thought Manti Te'o had a girlfriend in his college career.
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http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...apr/19/bill-cosby-erasure-race-trayvon-martin
Just a reminder about how Bill feels about you knuckleheads.
What's funny is take his comments on the black community and post them here unidentified and they'd be labeled as "sws" immediately. While y'all were fighting the good fight against racism or corruption, he either thought it wasn't about race or that the victim deserved it. Think on that as you fight now. To use his own logic, why would a famous, wealthy, married man invite women back for drinks and be shocked when some turn out to be scandalous?
Just a reminder about how Bill feels about you knuckleheads.
What's funny is take his comments on the black community and post them here unidentified and they'd be labeled as "sws" immediately. While y'all were fighting the good fight against racism or corruption, he either thought it wasn't about race or that the victim deserved it. Think on that as you fight now. To use his own logic, why would a famous, wealthy, married man invite women back for drinks and be shocked when some turn out to be scandalous?
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shhhh....they are trying to take away a black man's voice. They are trying to silence a black man, who just so happens to share a lot of the same sentiments as ignorant white people.
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I have the benefit of having never like Cosby, or his show, OR his Pretentiousness that spawned from his fake I mean honorary degrees, but the most annoying thing with this is you can't have an honest discussion with some black americans because they are unable to separate his show person from the man he is and was. They will say one of these phrases followed by lunacy....
"How come when a white cop kills......but"
"Cosby is like 90, let that man be"
"Some of the girls are lying though!?"
"Iil feel like he's my grandpa"
This is all from people I know and consider to be reasonably intelligent, I honestly feel this is the biggest obstacle to overcome with Cosby, I don't think enough American's know what he did.
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Also, I'd like to add that while they are certainly two very different crimes, it is interesting to note that two black celebrities of the past 50 years went down burning in flames. Both Cosby and OJ were universally loved by white people.
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Damn, That's ****** up
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I was watching this the other day about Hilary cutting some chick off for bringing this up.
I know there was a Clinton conspiracy thread that was way worse than rape allegations about how they had contracted killings put out and covered them up.
Last article I read about this Bill rape accusation basically there was no proof that he did this. It hasn't been talked about like that since.
There's a situation with a guy with real power though. No Illuminati needed.
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Here is a long write up detailing this story. LINK
I don't know why you posted this though, what does this have to do with Cosby?
-The woman Hillary cut off was heckling her at a rally about it.
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