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Gunman kills self after 2 NYPD cops fatally shot ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner
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Take Garvey out of your profile pic b.
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So let me pose this question to the forum. All I am seeing is constant bashing of white people, cops and anyone who doesn't agree with ones personal views but no solutions. Sure we can say get the racist people out of power but your only fooling yourself if you think their gonna just resign or act differently overnight.
So how do we solve this? What should we do to get equality?
I am genuinely interested in everyone's response.
So how do we solve this? What should we do to get equality?
I am genuinely interested in everyone's response.
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We will never have equality.
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as african americans keep the money in the community. open up business and unite.
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Ok so what do we do then? Like many of you I am tired of seeing what I am seeing but sitting idealy by is not doing anything.
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I don't have an answer for that.
Fight back? Die.
Protest? Get paid lip service according to history.
Try to do our own thing? Word to Tulsa, OK.
What do we do? Hell if I know.
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We can't achieve equality, because it will shift from "race", to another form of "hierarchy", some men are just not content without conquest and destruction of others; which almost always could have been preventable and sadly is nothing more than a reflection of their own ugliness and social ineptitude.
We've tried before with Rosewood, Florida and Black Wallstreet, which was colloquially known as "Little Africa" is an example of that.
There isn't much difference in the white men that are at the root of cases like Oscar Grant, Trayvon Martin, and Eric Grant...stop killing black men with a "shoot first, ask questions later mentally".
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the inherent racism of police organizations is in no way similar to the sentiments of civilians who feel that the actions of a few constitute the majority
police can be racist toward people and use that power to subjugate, oppress and dehumanize. it doesn't quite work the other way around
false equivalent. stop making stupid comparisons
police can be racist toward people and use that power to subjugate, oppress and dehumanize. it doesn't quite work the other way around
false equivalent. stop making stupid comparisons
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Another officer shot and killed in Florida
http://wkrn.com/2014/12/21/florida-police-officer-shot-killed-sunday-morning/
http://wkrn.com/2014/12/21/florida-police-officer-shot-killed-sunday-morning/
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But I will be honest and say there's incidences like this, that make it hard for anyone of any race, including myself to make the case that blacks are being unfairly targeted. And this is where racism thrives, amid ignorance and lack of communication, waiting to be justified and attributed to the many causes which are really just human complexity.
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Mr. Marcus is speaking some truth.
And lets be real here. I feel bad for the cops who died, feel bad for their families, and this senseless killing was unwarranted and they didn't deserve it. I'm not going to put them on a pedestal or deem their lives more valuable then anyone else's life though.
However, sad but true, these cops paid the price for the actions of their fellow officers and a system which has allowed police brutality to go unpunished. Add in some nypd officers (who I hold to higher standard then protestors) adding fuel to the fire with their "I can breathe" shirts.
Its been alot of tension and something like yesterday was sadly inevitable. However regarding the dislike of cops, most law abiding citizens didn't just wake up one random morning and decide to start hating cops.
Its an unfortunate situation but the actions of their fellow officers and a legal system which protected those officers from accountability played a role in contributing to this tragedy. There's no spinning that around.
And lets be real here. I feel bad for the cops who died, feel bad for their families, and this senseless killing was unwarranted and they didn't deserve it. I'm not going to put them on a pedestal or deem their lives more valuable then anyone else's life though.
However, sad but true, these cops paid the price for the actions of their fellow officers and a system which has allowed police brutality to go unpunished. Add in some nypd officers (who I hold to higher standard then protestors) adding fuel to the fire with their "I can breathe" shirts.
Its been alot of tension and something like yesterday was sadly inevitable. However regarding the dislike of cops, most law abiding citizens didn't just wake up one random morning and decide to start hating cops.
Its an unfortunate situation but the actions of their fellow officers and a legal system which protected those officers from accountability played a role in contributing to this tragedy. There's no spinning that around.
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Look. There will always be dummy's both black and white that what the cops do is justified.
We are not saying every time a cop beat a black person or white, or shoot them the cops are in the wrong
Yes cops are justified a lot
What were saying is the killing of unarmed blacks,innocent Blacks,overkill, coverups, etc. This goes for both black and whites in my book
There is a lot of unjustified killings vs justified. A lot of coverups. Look at Sean bell. They released 50 shots into his car and they were unarmed
Look at those hispanic ladies the cops shot up,like they unleashed 30 shots in the truck right away for no reason because they thought it was Dorner. Then they tried to get her a new truck but wanted her to pax taxes on the car ..smh
Or the unarmed white person they killed in Arizona
So yes police are justified at times,no doubt about that
For the same video you post I can show you a white person doing the same
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Nobody is stopping you from picking up the phone and calling the cops, and you might even get a reward for it.
Not even going to answer the revenue part,you're either naïve or trolling.
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A nypd cop made a post on FB asking why people dont protest about people killing other people in their own communities
I responded "Because criminals and murders arent public servants nor held to a high standard"
Like you said, false equivalent
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Depends on where you live to be honest. If it's a concealed carry state, you have the right to. They might still shoot, but if you are lucky you might have a chance to shoot back. It's a thin line and if you are wrongly killed with a legally owned weapon in hand, it will justify it which is why I say it's more about proving a point.
The point I'm trying to make is that the statistics will help. If there's reports of 80% of blacks legally owning weapons, they might think twice before doing something to anger the black community.
It only took 3% of American colonists to defeat the British.
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Some fools put themselves in situations to get beat down by cops by doing stupid ****. My arguments and opinions are not in defense for those types.
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To be honest man no disrespect but how in the hell will an interaction with a cop lead to me having to pull that 9 out on him.
From my dealings with the police I've always received the respect I give them. I mean I just got pulled over a few days ago I could of been on some why you pull me over because I am dark? I have a nice car going 80mph because I am dark windows tinted and I swerved a little I mean.
Some situations can be avoided we all know that, are cops pulling over and harassing people because of color of course but what you decide for your interaction with the cops to turn into is on you.
Me following instructions getting home >>> me wrestling fighting with the cop because i felt he disrespected me by pulling me over because of the color of my skin
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If I EVER see someone do this, regardless of race, I will put them in the hospital.
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They actually are the ones who serve as evidence for the justification of what some cops believe are unpreventable decisions to take someone's life..
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yea cause cops are killing random white people and using justification from the PA shooter and the Colorado guy as their reason
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Sorry, let me try to explain it better. How will it change an encounter with a cop for a routine traffic stop? I don't think it will. But it does depend on the area. Of course if you get pulled over, always be respectful. Not because it's a cop that is pulling you over, but because it's another human being.
I escalated it to the situation of shooting because I thought your question was what impact would it have if you needed to use it. For example, Mike Brown. Had he legally owned a gun in his state (idk if it's a concealed carry state, and I'm aware that he wasn't 21 but it's a hypothetical situation.) he might of been able to defend himself from Darren Wilson. Had he been killed, it would have been justified, but he might of gotten Darren Wilson out of this world.
idk if this makes sense. I suppose what I'm attempting to say is, a gun is a great responsibility. it should only be used as a last resort. If that last resort must be used, you have an opportunity to defend yourself, although I hope you never have to get to that last resort.
So, how in the hell will an interaction with a cop lead to you having to pull 9 out on him? It hopefully wouldn't. But if you ever find yourself in a life and death situation, you'll have the option of life.