Teen Killed for Legend Blue Jordan XI

TimidTebow said:
Diego said:
It's funny to see the celebration in this thread for the robber killed by a civilian defending himself and then go to the other thread and dudes calling for the officer to have shot this other robbers hand to disable him.
How there were other things the officer could've done to get the situation under control.

Dudes can't even be consistent with what they believe in.
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Did he try to rob a cop? I don't know how ones views can be consistent when one is discussing two totally different situations. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
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It's like comparing the death of one person getting shot for attempted robbery VS the death of another person getting shot for attempted robbery.
I am not throwing race, profession, sneakers, gas stations into the equation.

When you remove all those variables it's comparing apples to apples. So it really is interesting to see the inconsistencies with how people feel about both these incidents.
 
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Supermanblue79 said:
Is Nike, Inc. directly responsible for these kids' behavior? No.

Does Nike, Inc. have the responsibility to do something about the negative behavior associated with Jordan releases as a corporation? Yes they do.


The "Where the Protests at?" post is a valid question.
My answer is it starts at home. As a father, my children will not be wearing Air Jordan products until Phil Knight and Michael Jordan come up with solutions to this problem.
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the last part i can totally respect because your being proactive with your response to the situation.    to me there's nothing to protest here but if a person doesn't agree with how jordan brand handles their releases or how an individual store does, their well within their means to stop supporting them financially. 

that said, Its tough for me to hold nike responsible for the behavior of idiots who get mad because they are unable to get an item they want and decide to act like savages. this applies to apple releases or anything where there isn't enough supply to match the demand.  they could produce more, but from a business perspective their trying to make as much money as they can.

people need to realize that their not going to get everything they want in life and that just because they went to a mall in the morning it doesn't make them entitled to the shoes. this goes beyond sneakers, you can't throw a tantrum and act irrational every time you don't get something you want in life.  the girl i tried to bag at the bar shut me down last night, it doesn't give me the green light to force myself on here.    i want a lambo, but i can't afford one at this point in my life,  it doesn't give me a right to be mad at those who can or to try and rob someone that has one because i'm not able to get it.  

alot of the problems at these releases stem from impulsive, materialistic, irrational people.  factor in the price range part too,  not everyone can afford the sneakers. some people at the releases got a starbury budget but want xi's and do dumb things to try and get them.    it's just hard from me to place any type of blame on nike for the stupidity of  a small percentage at these releases. 
 
NYC game said:
I doubt it.... It could have been any other monetary item like a new Iphone or a designer coat, doesn't matter in history this has been going on long before jordans were ever made.

I have no sympathy for people who rob.
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yup, ppl swear like this only happens over shoes...if anything its so uncommon thats why it gets reported.  
 
Diego said:
It's funny to see the celebration in this thread for the robber killed by a civilian defending himself and then go to the other thread and dudes calling for the officer to have shot this other robbers hand to disable him.
How there were other things the officer could've done to get the situation under control.

Dudes can't even be consistent with what they believe in.
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This dude was perfectly within the law. Waiting to buy his shoes. He didn't chase down a kid and dump a whole mag in his back. He shot him once because the kid upped a gun on him. Kid went down and that was that. Was he supposed to get shot for doing nothing wrong instead? This is exactly how you are taught to shoot when you carry. Dude showed mad restraint by only shooting once.
 
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Don't like the misleading title. Not going to say the kid deserved it but that was always a possibility when he pointed a gun at someone first.
 
ElijahDukes said:
How is it Nike's/Jordan's responsibility? They aren't forcing anyone to buy/wear their shoes.
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it's not.   like i said, nike isn't responsible for people throwing tantrums when they don't get something they want.  just because you aren't able to get something, it doesn't give you the green light to start problems with others.

nike isn't responsible for the stupid impulsive materialistic behavior of others.  

i'd throw a curveball and say it's the mall/neighborhood law enforcement's responsibility.  the mall has a responsibility to provide safe environment for customers by properly staffing security or what not.   local law enforcement gets paid to protect and serve (we can argue the effectiveness of that) but this isn't the thread for it, but a cop or two on hand at an xi release ready to slap the cuffs on anyone acting out of line would help much more then deflecting blame on nike.

nike shouldn't be responsible for people who don't know how to act.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
it's not.   like i said, nike isn't responsible for people throwing tantrums when they don't get something they want.  just because you aren't able to get something, it doesn't give you the green light to start problems with others.

nike isn't responsible for the stupid impulsive materialistic behavior of others.  

i'd throw a curveball and say it's the mall/neighborhood law enforcement's responsibility.  the mall has a responsibility to provide safe environment for customers by properly staffing security or what not.   local law enforcement gets paid to protect and serve (we can argue the effectiveness of that) but this isn't the thread for it, but a cop or two on hand at an xi release ready to slap the cuffs on anyone acting out of line would help much more then deflecting blame on nike.

nike shouldn't be responsible for people who don't know how to act.
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Wasn't directed at you, I know you agree. I'm just saying in general that some people feel it's up to the producers.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
oh i know.  i was moreso agreeing with you if anything.
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great minds think alike :pimp:

However, I also gotta point fingers to the retailers who have employees playing funny games with reserving pairs on the low, but I cant blame em. Some people could have been in line fairly but got cut off at the end because some employees kept some pairs for themselves and friends.
 
I'm not necessarily opposed to employees getting first dibs on pairs. You work that job for crappy pay all year long, I got nothing against employees getting first dibs as a perk as long as a decent amount is left for the customers. Them being upfront and not playing funny games would help though.
 
ElijahDukes said:
How is it Nike's/Jordan's responsibility? They aren't forcing anyone to buy/wear their shoes.
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it's nobody's responsibility but the buyer's. Ignorant ppl can't handle the fact that they took an L, or they might not be able to get the "hottest" new shoe out to show off for twitter likes. They can't accept the fact that they won't have the newest release as if there's not restocks, returns, online options, trades, etc. or the next release the following weekend 
 
just nikes said:
Don't like the misleading title. Not going to say the kid deserved it but that was always a possibility when he pointed a gun at someone first.
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agreed. The kid wasn't killed over some shoes. The teen was killed because he pointed a gun at a man and tried to rob him, and that man just happened to be the wrong man to try cause he was also carrying a pistol except his was legal and the man was only defending his life. Guessing no pics of the shooter surfaced?
 
I'm going to post something I said in another thread about a year ago:

Nike/Jordan Brand is at the point where they could produce 1 million pairs and sell 1 million pairs of any Jordan retro. But they won't produce 1 million pairs because that takes away from the "mystique" of the shoes. People enjoy having what others don't have. It's the sad truth. Nike can't control how people behave when they put a product on the market. People have to realize that it's just a pair of shoes. Nike can't control if people act like savage animals on release day. It's not their fault that sneakerhead x wants 1 pair to rock, 1 pair to stock, 1 pair to trade, and 1 pair to wipe his behind with. It's not their fault that people pay an arm and a leg to resellers. At the end of the day those people made the decision to behave the way they do.

So to answer the original question: No. There is nothing Jordan or Nike can do to stop the madness over sneakers. Unless they plan on producing millions of pairs there is nothing they can do. And since they're profiting from the violence why would they want to stop it? Violence or not people will still line up for the next release.
 
ryanjumpman420 said:
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/286809121.html?mobile=y
lady mugged and held at gun point by two men and robbed for her legend blues in mall parking lot leaving mall. Need to make all Holiday AJ11s online only in my humble opinion.
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Attacking a woman? What kind of man are you? Just when you think people can't sink any lower stuff like this happens
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FrameofAmadeus said:
I'm going to post something I said in another thread about a year ago:

Nike/Jordan Brand is at the point where they could produce 1 million pairs and sell 1 million pairs of any Jordan retro. But they won't produce 1 million pairs because that takes away from the "mystique" of the shoes. People enjoy having what others don't have. It's the sad truth. Nike can't control how people behave when they put a product on the market. People have to realize that it's just a pair of shoes. Nike can't control if people act like savage animals on release day. It's not their fault that sneakerhead x wants 1 pair to rock, 1 pair to stock, 1 pair to trade, and 1 pair to wipe his behind with. It's not their fault that people pay an arm and a leg to resellers. At the end of the day those people made the decision to behave the way they do.

So to answer the original question: No. There is nothing Jordan or Nike can do to stop the madness over sneakers. Unless they plan on producing millions of pairs there is nothing they can do. And since they're profiting from the violence why would they want to stop it? Violence or not people will still line up for the next release.
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Not trying to argue here, but mystique doesnt take away from anything being made by the massess. They do make millions but its more than that.. There isnt any control over buying/selling in stores(footaction/hibbz/etc).. Hell dudes have preorders posted on ebay months before the release. So,if i wanted to buy 4 pairs, that just took 4 pairs Out of retail wayy before they dropped. How is that possible to have shoes garunteed before they are delivered? I dont even know lol.... Although this is some what irrelevant some dude was like yall killing over $25.00 shoes that are made in china.. Regardless if the shoes are $25.00 what about the packaging,shipping,distributing where does that cost come into play?
 
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