OFFICIAL 2015 M!AM! DOLPH!NS SEASON THREAD (6-10) / NEXT:

how much money is left to spend? are yall keeping Clay?

i really feel like if the coaching can stick with lamar miller and focus on a ground attack, landry/wallace could be dangerous over the top + clay in the middle. tanny does need to work on the accuracy of his deep ball. the skill positions are there imo, just add to that o-line :evil:
 
Clay depends on offers. If Buffalo throws money at him, he'll be allowed to leave. If its fair, Olsen money, 3/20, he likely stays cuz we'd pay that. But 3/40 or somethin, see ya.

Need OL, CB, S. We can survive at LB now. Misi, Jenkins, Tripp, McCain, Jordan should be enough.

Starks staying would help if they can work somethin out.

CB/S are the needs now for a top shelf defense.


Then draft heavy at WR, backup RB, OG, and maybe TE.
 
This is a 28 year old, 3 time All Pro, HOF caliber player, who has never missed a single practice due to injury, signing with us.

Wallace/Albert look like 7th round pick signings compared to Suh.
 
safeties and corners have this weird thing where they look and play wayyyyy better than they are when there's a nice pass rush up front.
 
Hence I've said from jump DT is a bigger issue than CB. It's been addressed, nickle corner is a need. Number two can be taken by Jamar Taylor but injures say otherwise. So a number 2/Grimes replacement is needed as well as safety to free up Jones.
 
h3at23 said:
Ok......And I hope CP remembers when I told him about us signing Dansby before free agency even start.

I know someone that I use to get early release J's for that works for the front office. He's the one that told me about us getting Dansby right before free agency started. He calls me today and asks me what size do I want my Suh jersey in? He says it's not set in stone but would be shocked if we don't sign him up. I asked him why Philbin was still here, because they knew the coach they wanted this yr was going to Michigan. I told him they better get Wayans, says he's def on their board.
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I'm gonna get that I told ya'll phone call soon lol. 2 FOR 2!
 
h3at23 said:
h3at23 said:
Ok......And I hope CP remembers when I told him about us signing Dansby before free agency even start.

I know someone that I use to get early release J's for that works for the front office. He's the one that told me about us getting Dansby right before free agency started. He calls me today and asks me what size do I want my Suh jersey in? He says it's not set in stone but would be shocked if we don't sign him up. I asked him why Philbin was still here, because they knew the coach they wanted this yr was going to Michigan. I told him they better get Wayans, says he's def on their board.
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I'm gonna get that I told ya'll phone call soon lol. 2 FOR 2!
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Not eeeeeem mad. Tell your source whiskey on me.
 
" The Dolphins plan to release P Brandon Fields, per The Herald's @AdamHBeasley "

Good.
 
Jeff Risdon

Congratulations, Miami fans! You have landed the preeminent free agent of the century thus far in Ndamukong Suh. From a Lions scribe who has watched every snap the fantastic defensive tackle has ever played–most several times–here is a little breakdown on what exactly you are getting for the reported six years and $114M, at least $60M of which is guaranteed.

You are getting an interior dynamo. Ndamukong Suh will be the primary focus of the opposing blocking scheme on every snap he’s on the field. Offenses have to account for his alignment, and he’s always been good in Detroit at making subtle pre-snap adjustments to change the angle or alter the OL coordination. Very few teams have ever successfully handled Suh with just one blocker for more than a handful of snaps.

You are getting a legit pass-rushing threat up the gut from the line. Suh can destroy pass protection with rare power. He’s a strongman amongst strongmen, blessed with violent muscle throughout his body. His jolting hands and how forcefully he follows it with coordinated leg drive and core strength is something no other defensive lineman has, not even J.J. Watt.

Yet he can also win with quickness. Suh has learned to set up moves better and to use his foot positioning to improve his football geometry. At heart he still wants to win every battle with a vulgar display of power, but he’s got the ability to do more.

You are getting a player who stays on the field. He’s never had anything more than an annoying injury, hardly ever missing any practice time let alone games. In that aspect he’s quite different from the other former Lion on the defense, Louis Delmas. Suh can play 6 snaps in a row on a drive and remain effective too. Stamina and conditioning will never be an issue.

You are getting a player who has developed into an outstanding run defender. It wasn’t always that way, but he has learned how to better locate the ball and to take better angles when he’s chasing it. Some Lions fans would argue with me about this point, but I also believe his overall football IQ has improved significantly in his 5 years.

You are getting a player who will “only” bag between 6 and 10 sacks, which on the surface seems like a terribly poor return on investment. Judge Suh not by his own numbers but by the sack productivity of the entire defense. In Detroit he was very good at tying up two blockers and clearing a blitzing lane for the MLB or a safety. He is great on stunts and twists, springing George Johnson or Ziggy Ansah for clean shots at the QB.

Because you already have an elite pass rusher in Cameron Wake, it might be hard to gauge Suh’s corollary impact on the pass rush. You will want to look at sack and QB Hurry stats from the lesser and role players…

…and here is where the story changes. The massive financial commitment means much of the rest of the defense is going to consist of lesser and role players. It is absolutely imperative for your front office to hit on schematic fits in days two and three of the draft, and to get lucky with an undrafted free agent or low-cost veteran or two every year. That’s not impossible–Detroit did it the last two years–but it creates a very thin margin for error.

Thin will also characterize the depth. When you sign a player to that kind of deal, there is less room for middle class on the roster. And that’s not just on defense, either. The front office will have to be sharp, and the coaching staff must excel at player development and recognizing what the assets on hand can and cannot do. These are the primary differences between the 4-12 Jim Schwartz Lions and the 11-5 Jim Caldwell Lions.

One thing you are not getting is a leader. He has tried hard to build up his reputation in this area, but it’s always been hollow noise. Delmas is a leader. Suh is an extremely talented individual who others can emulate, but he’s not going to lead the charge into battle or galvanize a locker room around him. There won’t be any problems with Suh in the locker room, but it can be awkward when the highest-paid player isn’t the definite leader. Detroit knows this with Calvin Johnson.

You are getting a divisive persona. Some would call Suh a pariah for his on-field controversies. It’s always been a delicate balance for Detroit fans, who see the attempted decapitation of Andy Dalton, the unnecessary cut block on John Sullivan, the grazing blow with his foot to Matt Schaub’s man region, the stomps (yes, plural), and to try and weigh how vociferously to defend the acts while at the same time being honest.

My take? He’s not a dirty player, but he is a victim of his own inability to control his aggression in the heat of the moment. Lions fans know dirty. Dom Raiola was our center for over a decade. Raiola was dirty. Suh is more prone to temporary insanity than “dirty” play in and play out. Unfortunately that makes his incidents more unpredictable and frustrating. It is going to happen, and his history has escalated the stakes to where Suh will get suspended for at least a game with any future incidents, even the fuzzy ones like his late-season stomp.

Many Lions fans are going to be cross about losing him, and some will go out of their way to dog their former hero. That’s natural. I know this a little too well as a die-hard Cleveland Cavaliers fan who watched “The Decision” on my father’s 65th birthday and made the cake taste like literal crap. It’s not like that with Suh, not for me anyway. Ndamukong always made it quite clear this was all business, almost coolly so. It’s frustrating to lose him but he never vacillated from his business plan and that’s part of who you are getting too. The man is quite smart, but he’s loyal to himself over all else.

Good luck with Suh. Sincerely. He was a treat to watch over the last five seasons (covering him professionally, not so much but that’s the local media’s problem) and he can make a good defense great.
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Very respectable read. Pretty much what I already knew about Suh. I just hope that we're good at spotting talent in the Draft, because this is our guy.
 
Ndamukong Suh is set to join the Miami Dolphins.

According to Chris Mortenson of ESPN, Suh will sign a six-year contract worth $114 million with $60 million guaranteed on Tuesday. The former Detroit Lions defensive tackle was the most highly sought-after free agent on the open market this year.

Signings of this kind are often stigmatized in today's NFL. That stigma is intensified when defensive tackles are involved. That is because of Albert Haynesworth, a player who signed a huge contract with Washington back in 2009 before quickly watching his career fall apart.

The old adage that "you build through the draft" has some resonance to it, but the idea that you can't make big moves in free agency is simply foolish. You only need to look back to last year's Super Bowl contenders to find out the importance of additions teams acquire in free agency.

Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Danny Amendola, Brandon LaFell, Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Tony McDaniel, Kevin Williams, Chris Matthews, LeGarrette Blount, Rob Ninkovich, Patrick Chung, Kyle Arrington and Brandon Browner all arrived at the Super Bowl after being signed as free agents.

Of course, none of those players was signed to a big-money contract like Suh, but New England Patriots star cornerback Darrelle Revis was.

The then-28-year-old had been released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers prior to the beginning of free agency because he didn't fit in Lovie Smith's scheme. That freed him to sign with the Patriots on a two-year, $32 million contract.

Even though Revis' contract was designed to only really be a one-year deal, his cost for 2014 still amounted to $12 million. That $12 million is significantly lower than the $19 million Suh's contract averages out to, with $60 million coming over the first three years.

Yet the difference between the two salaries isn't as vast as it seems. The NFL's salary cap is expanding at an incredible rate. It has jumped by $10 million over each of the past two seasons and only looks to continue to climb over the coming years.

Financially, Suh is earning a huge amount of money, but it's not a contract that is going to completely handicap the franchise for the long term. It's also not a contract that is going to a player who lacks motivation.

Suh could follow in the footsteps of Albert Haynesworth, but there's no reason to believe he is any more likely to than any other free agent. Suh has been on a huge contract since he entered the NFL and has always played with a great motor on the field.

His performances have earned him this huge windfall with the Dolphins.

At 28 years of age, Suh is also still in his prime. He may not be a star during his fifth and sixth year of his contract, but he should still be a viable starting option considering his physical peak. For head coach Joe Philbin, the latter years of this deal are largely irrelevant. He needs to win the AFC East this season to keep his job—or at least make the playoffs.

Suh's expected addition to the Dolphins roster didn't necessarily come out of nowhere, but it hadn't been expected leading up to free agency. Part of that was the Dolphins' cap space, but more significantly, they had no real need for an interior defensive lineman—even with Jared Odrick hitting free agency.

Instead of taking the cautious route away from Suh, the Dolphins undertook a strategy that isn't used enough in the NFL. They attempted to alleviate the pressure on their weaknesses by strengthening a strength.

The Dolphins had an average defense in 2014. While the defense as a whole was average, Miami's defensive line was one of the best in the NFL.

Left defensive end Cameron Wake has been an All-Pro-caliber player for a long time now. Wake is 33 years of age, but he was still as explosive as ever when healthy in 2014. Almost a decade separates Wake and fellow defensive end Olivier Vernon (24) in age, but their talent levels are much closer at this point.

Vernon isn't as explosive as Wake, but he has enough pass-rushing versatility to consistently get the better of NFL left tackles. Over the past two seasons, he has compiled 18 sacks.


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Aligning Suh between these two defensive ends, with Earl Mitchell acting as a nose tackle and possibly Randy Starks coming in on passing downs, will make this defensive line overwhelming. To keep the primary players fresh, the Dolphins will also expect quality contributions from Derrick Shelby, Terrence Fede and Dion Jordan as they develop.

Suh should expect to elevate every single one of his teammates, while his teammates will also aid him individually by drawing more of the defense's attention away from him.

If you can draw attention away from Suh, he is going to take over games on his own. In Detroit he played on a very talented defensive line which allowed him to show off his exceptional skill set on a regular basis. That should be the case in Miami also.

The greatest trait Suh boasts is versatility. He is versatile enough to excel in any situation against any offense on any type of play.

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This play comes from the Lions and Dolphins matchup from the 2014 season. Suh is lined up as the left defensive tackle in the Lions' nickel defense. Importantly, the Dolphins have Mike Pouncey and Nate Garner lined up across from him.

Because of the play call, Suh is going to be double-teamed on this play.

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As the Dolphins so often did last year, they ran the ball from the shotgun while reading the free defensive end to the same side of the field. This defensive end was next to Suh, so the extra blocker was in position to engage him at the snap.

Suh doesn't ever react to Garner, the extra blocker; instead he focuses on Pouncey as he moves with the flow of the play.

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As the play develops, Suh is aggressively fighting through Pouncey while showing no ill-effects from Garner's attempts to push him backward. Suh's body angle here is perfect, and the strength he shows is very impressive because of which player he is working against.

Even at this point of the play, Suh has already done more than would be expected for most defensive linemen because he has held his positioning against a double-team.

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Not settling for simply holding his position, Suh keeps working through Pouncey's block attempt to push his way toward the ball-carrier. Despite the extra attention, he is able to meet the running back in the hole to tackle him as soon as he crosses the line of scrimmage.

This is the kind of play against the run that very few defensive linemen in the NFL can make once. Suh is capable of making it more regularly than that.

Most of the players in the NFL who excel against double-teams when playing the run are hefty nose tackles who struggle to move in space. Suh offers that same kind of ability against double-teams with the ability to penetrate the backfield and move laterally quickly.

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On this play against the Green Bay Packers, he is again lined up at the left defensive end position to start the play. The Packers have a fullback offset to his side of the field with Aaron Rodgers lined up in the pistol. This offers the Packers options for how to attack the defense.

They decide to run away from Suh.

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Right guard T.J. Lang, a player who is widely considered one of the better guards in the NFL, is responsible for Suh. Lang is beaten at the snap. Suh is able to explode out of his stance while using his hands to knock Lang off balance.

Suh used Lang's forward momentum against him to fluidly slide past his outside shoulder.

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From there he quickly diagnoses where the football is before accelerating toward it. Even though Eddie Lacy isn't one of the fastest backs in the NFL, he should have enough speed to get away from Suh before the line of scrimmage when running toward left tackle.

Instead, Suh is able to track him down at the line of scrimmage before pulling him down from behind for no gain.

Suh is an outstanding athlete, and he shows off the technical ability to use that athleticism to its best possible effect against the run. He can hold the better offensive guards in the NFL away from his body while he searches for the football and move them off the line of scrimmage if necessary.

His run defense is phenomenal, but run defense alone doesn't make you worthy of a huge contract. Obviously Suh offers a great presence as an interior pass-rusher.

As a rookie in 2010, Suh had an incredible 10 sacks from a defensive tackle position. He only had four the following season but has accumulated 22 over 48 regular-season games since then. For an interior defensive lineman, that is an excellent sack rate. More importantly though, Suh can get consistent pressure to disrupt the opponent's quarterback.

In a division with the Super Bowl champions and Tom Brady, that interior pressure can go a long way.

Suh relies on his intensity, strong hands and balance to penetrate the pocket. He had a number of "second effort" sacks last year when he continued through his initial movement to chase the quarterback down behind the line of scrimmage.

With Suh pressing the interior, potentially with Starks and Wake/Vernon coming off of the edges, the Dolphins should expect to have one of the most productive pass-rushing defensive lines in the NFL next season.

He should be the final piece that allows the Dolphins to consistently get quick pressure on the quarterback without blitzing.

A defense that can create pressure with just a four-man rush is a defense that can be creative with its coverages while not stressing the secondary. Creative coverages typically ask too much of a cornerback or safety in his assignment or matchup. That is not the case if you can squeeze the space from the field with extra numbers.

The need for high-quality cornerback and safety play is lessened, while your linebackers won't be put in one-on-one assignments against tight ends or slot receivers in space.

Everyone will still need to be accountable against the run, but the penetration and disruption created by the defensive line will also aid others in that aspect of the game.

It would be foolish to suggest that Suh isn't a big risk from the Dolphins. This is a huge investment in a defensive player. He is earning money that many starting quarterbacks would be delighted to earn...and not just the bad ones.

Suh is a great, great talent who has proved to be a great player during his career to this point. Expectations for what he can bring to the Dolphins should be very high.

The Dolphins have enough pieces to compete for the AFC East in 2015 if they can continue to add complementary pieces to the roster.

Ryan Tannehill has shown over the past two seasons that he is developing into one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. Brent Grimes is still in his prime as one of the better cornerbacks in the NFL. Wake has a season or two left at least. Branden Albert is a high-quality left tackle if healthy. Vernon's career only appears to be going in one direction.

Many legitimate reasons exist for the Dolphins to be excited entering next season. They still have important moves to make, but adding Suh to the roster puts them in a position to contend.
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You can understand why any team would want Suh. The Dolphins, specifically, must have wanted Suh badly after their defense collapsed during the second half of 2014. Miami had the second-best defensive DVOA in football through Week 9, allowing opponents an average of 18.9 points per game; after that, they promptly posted the second-worst defensive DVOA in the league, allowing 27.8 points per game.
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im that one said:
No they aren't... everything is he said - she said. Also there is No deal signed as of right now. So there is no tampering, Suh can up and change his mind right now and go to the Lions and nothing can be done about it because there's no contract... not like contracts matter in the NFL anyway. It's just the nfl goofing things up per usual...
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“Like I said I am willing to help out the team, but at the same time I’m not about to do nothing crazy either. I’ll definitely help the team out, but it has to be reasonable—what I feel is reasonable.” - Mike Wallace ...

The Suh affect.
 
im that one said:
" In this case, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross will be required to write a check for $60 million, with Suh getting plenty of it up front and the rest going to an escrow account for future distribution.

Other teams (and likely the league office) won’t like this. If owners who have the cash to make that kind of commitment start making that kind of commitment, they’ll have a huge advantage when it comes to signing players. Eventually, the richest owners will take over the league.

Some believe that, previously, the richest owners have resisted doing it out of respect for the owners who can’t. Ross may be blazing a trail that sparks renewed acrimony between the NFL’s haves and the have-mores. "

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/10/suhs-60-million-will-be-fully-guaranteed/

[COLOR=#red]So... If he gets the $60 million up front his cap number stays down. Hmmmmm... if true, Well done Steven Ross, well done.[/COLOR]
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