OFFICIAL 2015 M!AM! DOLPH!NS SEASON THREAD (6-10) / NEXT:

Run the ball. Playaction. Screens. QB runs.

Get the lead, and rush the passer.


So much simple. So much Philbin ignored.

We still have holes. Still have work to do. But this was a solid start.


Wake, Grimes, Jones, Miller, Sims, Matthews, Stills, Albert all played well.

Ryan did too, minus the two Cameron miscues. GREAT 97 yard drive, Ryan goes 5/5 for 89 yards and a TD. That's how you finish a game.
 
That's how you treat a rook QB. Like trash that you stomp. And that's how you treat a team that isn't on your level. Give em a 30-burger and send em home.

I'm cautiously optimistic.

[COLOR=#red]Don[/COLOR] Campbell?
 
im that one said:
I'm on my honeymoon in Disneyland, watching the play by play... lol. Just as CP said... who'da thunk it. Yeeesh. Lamar Miller at an 8.3 ypc.. almost 100 yards in the first half. Sheesh.
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Congrats

Can we hire Philbin one more time to fire him immediately?
 
Great win. Let's take things one game at a time. Now we have Houston at home and a chance to get back to .500
 
A few observations:

Joe Philbin lost this team the second he uttered 'I tried everything.' It was clear he couldn't get out of his own way. It's painfully obvious that Joe Philbin's stubbornness was a huge detriment to his team. His refusal to run the ball, or swap out Jamil Douglas really spoke to him being stuck in his own ways.

He couldn't connect with his team, out of touch, as displayed by the Incognitio scandal. Dan C. Immediately tapped into these players emotions, and got a renewed sense of energy as a result.

I'm still nervous about Tannehill not making any adjustments at the line. There were several blitz looks yesterday, and he made ZERO modifications. This will result in him taking big hits throughout the season. I believe the previous administration didn't empower him enough. But this will have to be emphasized.

Brandon Albert's return changes this offensive line, tremendously.

Everyone's talking about Suh and his sack total. He's not necessarily there to sack QB's that's for Wake and OV, and a healthy Wake showed you what should happen when he's 100%.
 
toast1985 said:
A few observations:

Joe Philbin lost this team the second he uttered 'I tried everything.' It was clear he couldn't get out of his own way. It's painfully obvious that Joe Philbin's stubbornness was a huge detriment to his team. His refusal to run the ball, or swap out Jamil Douglas really spoke to him being stuck in his own ways.

He couldn't connect with his team, out of touch, as displayed by the Incognitio scandal. Dan C. Immediately tapped into these players emotions, and got a renewed sense of energy as a result.

I'm still nervous about Tannehill not making any adjustments at the line. There were several blitz looks yesterday, and he made ZERO modifications. This will result in him taking big hits throughout the season. I believe the previous administration didn't empower him enough. But this will have to be emphasized.

Brandon Albert's return changes this offensive line, tremendously.

Everyone's talking about Suh and his sack total. He's not necessarily there to sack QB's that's for Wake and OV, and a healthy Wake showed you what should happen when he's 100%.
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It's a huge problem with the pre-snap stuff. I don't believe a word Lazor says on the subject, and I'm not sure what's going on with this team and audibles. From what I've read, there are built-in hot routes and "calls" that Ryan can make on the fly, but he's not out there changing formations and barking plays like the elite QB's. I read he can change a run to a pass and all that, but that it's built-in to the play. Either way, it needs to be changed or teams will just continue to overload blitz and send DB's. Lazor is stubborn, and he was supposed to fix Sherman's shackles on Ryan. Is the QB too stupid to be trusted to audible? I don't understand...
 
Id rather hear that this team is too physical, than what we displayed. We have to set the tone with aggressiveness.
 
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/155192202/nfl-sub-500-teams-playoff-hunt-seattle-dallas

Miami Dolphins

It may just be that I'm a sucker for Oklahoma drills, but count me in on whatever interim coach Dan Campbell is selling in South Florida. Sure, it was just one game, and a drilling of hapless Tennessee at that. But it was patently clear the Fish were staring through Joe Philbin whenever he spoke. A new voice, especially from a respected former player like Campbell, was needed, and seems to have had the desired effect.

More important is the return to health of Cameron Wake. His implosion of the Titans passing game Sunday (four sacks, two forced fumbles) was representative of the edge rushing force we've come to expect from Wake, who was clearly still ailing from a hamstring injury before the bye week. Wake's ability to raise hell lifts all defensive boats -- maybe even the HMS Suh, which has resembled the Titanic in cost and expense so far. But his talent is such that Miami should inevitably coalesce up front and become a far more formidable opponent. Ryan Tannehill may never get it fully together, but with Jarvis Landry and Lamar Miller around, all Tannehill has to do is be competent and the Dolphins will thrust back into the wild-card mix.
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I'm seein your tweets Finns, and I see you doin what everyone else tries to do. Finalize someone. This is what/who they are, and it never changes.

So I have an example for you, that YOU can get as well as anybody, bein a Dolphins fan.

1984. Dan Marino. 5,000 yards, 48 TD's. 108.9 rating. One of the greatest years in NFL history, right?


1988 Dan Marino, age 27, 6th year in the NFL. 4,400 yards, 28 TD's, 23 INT's, 80 rating. The Dolphins were 6-10


What happened Finns? Did Dan Marino "regress" from 84 to 88? Did he get "worse"?

1989 Dan Marino, age 28. 3,997 yards, 24 TD, 22 INT's, his rating was 76.9. Dolphins were 8-8


Finns, what's happening? Was Dan getting worse as a QB in year 6-7-8? At age 27-28 years old?

Finns, help me out here, was Dan "regressing" as a quarterback??????????

I mean, ****, Tannehill has played 53 games already, SURELY he should be running the NFL, right?

We have people on this board that flat out IGNORE that Andrew Luck last year threw for 4,700 yards, and 40 TD's in his 3rd NFL season, and because of THREE GAMES this year, they label him as "turnover prone" and Too many INT's, and all this other bull ****.

The last 5-6 years, everyone has been on the Andy Dalton sucks tip. Dalton right now? 14 TD's and 2 INT's, undefeated with a 116 rating. And know what everyone is saying? "He'll blow it at some point" :lol:

Remember Tom Brady winning the Super Bowls as a kid? Handin off, game winning field goals, etc. 85 rating, 85 rating, 86 rating, every year. Then one year, he came out with five wide, and threw the ball all over the field, nonstop. His game grew, his coach gave him full access, total control, etc.


Since the 4th week of his second season, you, and Omar, and others like you guys have labeled Tanne and stuck with that label. You don't care if he gets better, you don't care if he has great games, you just stick with the same label, one bad throw at a time.

Year 3 Ryan went for 4,000 yards, 27 TD's, 12 INT's, and a 92 rating. CLEAR improvement. Year 3.

This year he had a 99 rating after 2 weeks, got beat to hell by the Jets and Bills (??????) defenses, with no Albert, and Joe Philbin in charge. Then he had a tremendous game last week. Including a 97 yard drive to seal the game, in which he was 5/5 for 89 yards, and a TD, including a PERFECT deep ball to Kenny Stills.

Yet, here you are, retweeting Omar, Ryan has regressed....................


I guess 76 rating Dan Marino much have REALLY sucked back in the day, huh? Right? :nerd:
 
:lol: :rofl:

First off, I don't want to hear about Marino, Dalton, Luck, Brady, or any other QB. Those guys have AT LEAST made the post season.

What I have been asking for is to limit turnovers, improve pocket presence, improve the deep passing game, and make defenses pay for stacking the box. We can blame it on Mike Sherman, Dallas Thomas, Joe Philbin, Bill Lazor, bada bing who ever. At one point are we going to take the floaties off this guy? Is he ever going to be trusted with audibles? Two coordinators saying I don't trust my QB making line calls, changing the plays, etc. Every QB you listed made changes at the line, formations changed on the fly, increased and decreased tempo as the game went on. I don't see that with 17. I see a guy who can say "go, go go" or keep running the same plays despite a DB blitzing 30 times in a row. :rofl:

C'mon MAN! When is this guy going to shine like you say he is? Does he need Zeus and Jesus Christ at the guard positions to take that leap? You talk about the 5/5 on the last drive and I like that, but you know the boy was not emulating Rodgers out there so don't act like he was. I like the article I posted, it basically calls Ryan a guy who wins when the other guys are carrying the team, not the other way around. I want Ryan to look like you said he did on the last drive, more consistently.

Now... here's where your mind will really be blown. Remember that trifecta thing I was mentioning earlier? I might as well have shorted Ireland, Philbin, and Tannehill if they were stocks.

/endhennehillrant
 
I see.

So, a QB regressing has to do with making the playoffs. Got it.

:lol:

No I don't, what the ****? :lol:

So, Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Nick Foles, Trent Dilfer, Mike Vick, are all a class above, cuz they made the playoffs?

QB progression or regression is based on making the playoffs, even if it's not the year they progress or regress? Just make the playoffs once, and you're ok? :nerd:

As I stated, Dan went 6-10, and had almost as many INT's as TD's, what in the mother **** are you smoking?

Ryan went 27-12 last year, with a better record than 5-10, and earlier in his career, but because Dan went to the playoffs in 84, we can talk him, but not Ryan? Do you even grasp how ******* stupid that is? Come on man. You and Omar call each other on the phone or some ****? God damn. :smh:

Remember Sherm sayin that Philbin wanted more pass plays, and not enough runs? :nerd:
Remember the first four games this year when the play calling was 73% pass play, and 27% run play, but Sherm no longer works here? :nerd:

Audible to what dude? Another pass? :lol: :rofl:

YOU don't know what audibles they have, nor do I. They have variations off each play, every play, up to 4 different play calls, based off the same play. (my guess is distance) So if Landry is runnin a 10 yard route, he can shorten it to 5, or extend it to 12, or put him in motion, but it's the same play, regardless. I'm not 100% on that, but that's what I've been told by people who are smarter than we are.

You go ahead and tell me what QB there is that we can give him Philbin, no Oline, no run game, and drops up the ***, on top of a piss poor defense, and still do better. Go ahead and tell me who is going to succeed with that. Cuz it ain't Aaron, it ain't Brady, it ain't Luck, it ain't Peyton, it's NO ONE. Nobody is going to succeed with that laundry list of crap.


I'm gonna laugh my *** off when you and Omar get more people riled up, and they let go of a perfectly able QB, and he goes to a better team and starts playing even better. At some point, you have to judge the franchise itself. You and Omar are trying to blame ONE GUY for a completely screwed up franchise. Yet you don't realize no matter who gets brought in, they will fail too. Why don't you get that man?

Ryan sucks, kick him out.
Rookie, 20 games, he sucks, kick him out
New rookie, 20 games, sucks, kick him out
Another new rookie, 20 games, sucks, kick him out

That's not how you develop a QB. Imagine if the Bengals got rid of Dalton 3-4 years ago, cuz he wasn't as good then as he is now. They didn't make the God damn playoffs because of him.

The Ravens weren't makin the playoffs because of Joe Flacco.
The Giants didn't make the playoffs because of Eli.
The Seahawks won a Super Bowl with Russ throwing for 100 yards a game.
Jets didn't make the playoffs because of Mark freakin Sanchez.

Jesus Christ dude, stop listening to ******* Omar. How do you not know better than that by now? :smh:

"Oh but I've seen other articles"

I know, I used to read the same articles, about Dalton, Cam's not a winner, Flacco sucks, Eli isn't Elite, Russ, etc etc etc.
 
You know... I like the new stuff.

But you really can't beat the classics.

Never change Finns... never change.
The Lex Luther to CP's Superman.
 
CP, I understand what you're saying, but you realize the dysfunctional organization means everything is messed up. The scouting, the coaches, the players, look, who is going to fix that, Dan Campbell? Is Campbell being the coach going to make Ryan into a guy that plays like a top 10 QB?

What are your solutions this time? It was get rid of the offensive coordinator first, then the GM, then the head coach, then get some receivers, grab a Pro Bowl LT, draft a RT in the first round, so now he needs All Pro guards?

Let me see game 2 under Campbell this Sunday. I feel like this will go on forever until the guy is 34 years old :lol: :lol:
 
I think more in terms of as he continues to work, learn, and grow. Like all the other players I've spoke of.

To help that, we start doing better with the roster, better OG, more run game, etc.

As he learns (every game) and as we improve talent on roster, everything else should improve.

We can't just expect or assume a QB is a finished product 30-40-50 games in. He's still learning, same as any other player.

He'll make mistakes, and he'll make great plays. Just have to hope he keeps workin his *** off every week to get better and better over time.
 
CP1708 said:
I think more in terms of as he continues to work, learn, and grow. Like all the other players I've spoke of.

To help that, we start doing better with the roster, better OG, more run game, etc.

As he learns (every game) and as we improve talent on roster, everything else should improve.

We can't just expect or assume a QB is a finished product 30-40-50 games in. He's still learning, same as any other player.

He'll make mistakes, and he'll make great plays. Just have to hope he keeps workin his *** off every week to get better and better over time.
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I hope for everyone's sake that this season turns around for good. Tannenbaum making decisions scares me.
 
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