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post #1471 of 1658
Not sure winning this game was a good idea. Hurts our draft, and helps the Ravens draft. ohwell.gif
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Lol
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2 years ago before the Giants changed their offensive scheme and hired a real play caller...Eli Manning had 18 TD's and 27 INT's.


Ryan has 21 TD's and 11 INT's.

I know people expect immediate results, but give it time.

We have to NAIL this coaching staff hire. NAIL. Solid HC, solid OC, solid DC, all working together to build the team concepts the right way, let the O and D compliment each other, play balanced, don't be all vertical like the Colts were playing, don't be all horizontal like we were playing, mix of both. Be good in run D, and pass D. Solid special teams. Limit mistakes. Limit penalties. Limit turnovers.

THEN, you see the results you expect. You can't expect wins with poor Oline, no run balance, one way Offense, can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, dumb penalties all the time, dumb special teams, poor clock management, etc.

This is why I say every single week, it's not one guy. It's all 53 + coaching.
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Not sure winning this game was a good idea. Hurts our draft, and helps the Ravens draft. ohwell.gif

because we clearly do so well with our draft picks.

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Not sure winning this game was a good idea. Hurts our draft, and helps the Ravens draft. ohwell.gif

because we clearly do so well with our draft picks.

Well, hire the right staff, and hopefully that turns around.

And it's taken a while, but DeVante is starting to show.

We draft well enough, we just take too much time getting them up to speed. laugh.gif
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very true. we never seem to capitalize on anyones true talent, they flourish before and after they are with us

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I can't stop watching that DVP catch. It looks like he points to God as he's making that catch sick.gif
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post #1478 of 1658
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Not sure winning this game was a good idea. Hurts our draft, and helps the Ravens draft. ohwell.gif

Hurts. We went from the 5th pick to 14th. sick.gifsick.gifsick.gifsick.gifsick.gif
post #1479 of 1658
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I can't stop watching that DVP catch. It looks like he points to God as he's making that catch sick.gif

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In the real world, Ryan Tannehill remains Miami Dolphins QB
My column today calls out the entire Miami Dolphins offense because eight first downs is not good enough in the NFL. One touchdown in a game is not good enough. It simply must get better.

But since Dolphins fans don't care that the scheme is no longer an oddity and so defenses have caught up, they want to place blame elsewhere. Since Dolphins fans don't care that practically everyone on the Miami offense has failed to improve this season, they want to ask solely about the lack of improvement of one player.

Since Dolphins fans have seen coach after coach after coach fired this season, they figure everything has been fixed within the walls of the Dolphins headquarters and so everything that goes wrong falls on the shoulders of one guy:

Ryan Tannehill.

Sigh.

Look, I Tannehill needs to improve. Everyone knows it.

But some of the opinions out there are nutty.

Some of the hot takes are more grounded in unicorn thoughts than reality.

For example, I sat in the press box Sunday and had a mostly thoughtful discussion with a colleague who said the Dolphins must sit Tannehill and play Matt Moore, who is better. And after I put my brain back together following its explosion I presented some reasons that is not true and should not happen.

Firstly, Matt Moore is good in small doses. He's a good NFL backup quarterback. But he's been a free agent a couple of times since 2012 and I don't recall any team thinking highly enough of him to offer him a starting job. This while players like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown, Tyrod Taylor and Blaine Gabbert have been plucked out of the quarterback abyss and become NFL starters.

So that tells me NFL teams don't think highly enough of Matt Moore to trust him with the reins of their offense over an extended time period. But this writer and some of you fans want to do exactly that.

I also point you to the 2011 Dolphins statistics. Matt Moore started 12 games that year. And he fumbled 14 times (losing six) and threw nine interceptions to go with his 16 touchdown passes.

Tannehill has started 12 games for the Dolphins this year. He has lost three fumbles and thrown 11 interceptions to go with his 21 touchdown passes.

So tell me, is 16 touchdowns and 15 turnovers (Moore) better than 21 touchdowns and 14 turnovers?

This is not to criticize Matt Moore. The point I'm making here is Ryan Tannehill is starting and Matt Moore is a backup at this stage for a reason. Changing that is not going to fix anything for the 2015 Miami Dolphins.

Going forward ... The Dolphins are being encouraged by a vocal group of fans to change quarterbacks. They're being encouraged to dump Tannehill.

And I would say to you, that is probably not smart.

One, cutting him after this season would be salary cap prohibitive.

Trading him would also be difficult because his contract makes it so and I'm not sure any team would give a first-round pick for him. If a team would give a first-round pick for him, and the Dolphins could then turn around and use their two first rounders to get in the first couple of draft slots, that should require consideration. Regardless, that move is a gamble.

I know this, if Ryan Tannehill is on the open market as a free agent requiring draft no draft compensation, he's getting paid because he would have a handful of teams chasing him. And what does that tell you? Again, that people whose life work is to know talent, would highly value Tannehill.

So why doesn't all of "Dolphins nation" value him?

Well, there's the constant mediocrity.

The writer told me Tannehill cannot even get the Dolphins to 8-8. I reminded him he's done that twice.

There's the perceived lack of improvement.

I see improvement. He's better than he was in 2012. He's better than he was in 2013. In some regards -- such as deep-ball accuracy -- he's better than he was in '14. Has there been regression in other departments, such as output, production? Yes.

But to say he's totally regressed is not factually correct.

There's also this crazy narrative that all Tannehill does is get coaches fired. Really?

So Tannehill got Mike Sherman fired? It had nothing to do with Go-, Go-Go, and lining up receivers in the same spot play after play, and a franchise record number of sacks, and no running game?

So Tannehill got Joe Philbin fired? It had nothing to do with picking up paper wads on the practice field, and lack of motivational abilities, and slow starts on offense and defense, and showing no leadership?

So what is my point?

The debate that rages now is moot. A lot of the hollerin' is just loud spewing of incorrect "facts."

Ryan Tannehill is still better than any current other option.

He's the quarterback, folks.

Does he need to improve? Yes. I've said that. He's said that. But I like the idea of hiring a veteran head coach who has had proven NFL success in the past as the new head coach and having him hire a good staff, including an accomplished offensive coordinator. I like the idea of putting Tannehill in that environment and seeing what germinates.

That option is better than benching him. It is better than cutting him. It is better than wishing on a star and hoping Paxton Lynch (search this blog) will land in Miami's lap.

It is also realistic. Some of that other stuff? Fantasy.


He's talking to you, finnnns
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post #1481 of 1658
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I can't stop watching that DVP catch. It looks like he points to God as he's making that catch sick.gif

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Is this.......is this Ryan looking off the safety to the left, and then coming back to his right on the throw?

Was this......47 yards in the air, on the money?

Is this, like, the 10-11th deep ball he's completed the last 7-8 games?

Heh.
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post #1482 of 1658
Who wrote that article, CP? Also, offense looked no better against a depleted Ravens secondary, given the firing of Lazor. Not #17's fault, but shuffling chairs on the titantic deck did nothing for the team. 15 points is actually really, really bad against the Ravens awful pass D

The east-west run plays, I can't believe Miller got 100+ with this crap scheme
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Who wrote that article, CP? Also, offense looked no better against a depleted Ravens secondary, given the firing of Lazor. Not #17's fault, but shuffling chairs on the titantic deck did nothing for the team. 15 points is actually really, really bad against the Ravens awful pass D

The east-west run plays, I can't believe Miller got 100+ with this crap scheme

Mando......
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post #1484 of 1658
Offense won't be changed until next year, it's not just playcalling. It's route designs, concepts, blocking schemes, etc. All of it will get rebuilt with new staff, can't do that now, even with diff playcaller.

We still have receivers running routes side by side and ****. laugh.gif
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Offense won't be changed until next year, it's not just playcalling. It's route designs, concepts, blocking schemes, etc. All of it will get rebuilt with new staff, can't do that now, even with diff playcaller.

We still have receivers running routes side by side and ****. laugh.gif

Knew it was Mando... His style is very unique laugh.gif

I think this team really needs an experienced head coach to come in and clean this crap up. No more Cam Camerons, Tony Sparanos, Joe Philbins, etc. We need a proven guy. We turned a Pro Bowl TE into a mediocre backup-caliber TE. It took injuries to starters to get Parker playing time, and he has proven he should've gotten more earlier. Too often guys like Jenkins and Parker and Matthews are kept on the pine because coaches don't realize what they have. Garbage franchise.
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Bill Cowher :smokin

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When the Dolphins and Eagles met recently, the starting quarterbacks shared an unfortunate distinction. Of the QBs with the NFL’s 20 biggest contracts, Ryan Tannehill and Sam Bradford are the only ones who have had neither a winning season nor led his team to the playoffs. And Bradford, whose Eagles are tied for first place in the NFC East, is closer to changing that than Tannehill is.
That factoid wouldn't be quite as disconcerting if Tannehill’s play was consistently good. But it hasn’t been. And some pundits are starting to go on the attack.
“Tannehill is going to get more people fired,” former CBS analyst Shannon Sharpe said. “He’s not done.”

“With Billy Lazor gone, I assume Tannehill will stop telegraphing every pass, show pocket awareness and play with anticipation and accuracy,” ESPN analyst and former personnel executive Louis Riddick said sarcastically.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/12/criticism-of-tannehill-grows-dolphins-committed-to-him-but-have-an-out-whiteside-fallout-um-qb-note.html

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post #1488 of 1658
Spends weeks admitting that coaching sucks, defense sucks, oline sucks, drops kill them, FO sucks, .......

Still blames QB.


This is why you're worthless. Seriously.

Entire organization of dysfunction, blame one guy. So stupid.
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post #1489 of 1658
If not Tanne, then who?

Do we draft another QB- Paxon or Goff? While neglecting our pass defense, pass rush, run-stopping, and pass protection?

Do we turn to Matt Moore? Who had a decent Offensive Line, ALPHA WR, and went 6-6.

Do we take our chances on a FA QB? See the Browns, Texans, and even the Romo-less Cowboys.

Or should we take a chance on a Kaepernick or RGIII?

Need legit answers.
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If not Tanne, then who?

Do we draft another QB- Paxon or Goff? While neglecting our pass defense, pass rush, run-stopping, and pass protection?

Do we turn to Matt Moore? Who had a decent Offensive Line, ALPHA WR, and went 6-6.

Do we take our chances on a FA QB? See the Browns, Texans, and even the Romo-less Cowboys.

Or should we take a chance on a Kaepernick or RGIII?

Need legit answers.

Exactly why I keep telling everybody to shut the **** up and fix the actual problems, not replace the fall guy.
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post #1491 of 1658
lmfao... please go read my post in the other thread.

I legit JUST talked about that and came in here.

Funny enough.






Knowing the Dolphins they will only fire staff and keep the front office.
Hire Mangini.
Sign Sackorpick.
Draft player x at mid first round and not play him.

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Book It.

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Spends weeks admitting that coaching sucks, defense sucks, oline sucks, drops kill them, FO sucks, .......

Still blames QB.


This is why you're worthless. Seriously.

Entire organization of dysfunction, blame one guy. So stupid.

laugh.gif Oh c'mon bud, you know that NFL thread was fun.

Oh do I love stirring...

In other news, throwback uni week. I'm considering grabbing a Suh or Landry throwback
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And a Tannehill throwback in case I need emergency toilet paper
post #1494 of 1658
No that **** ain't fun. Bunch of Jack offs that don't even watch our games following some stupid *** narrative and telling me what our problems are. mean.gif
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No that **** ain't fun. Bunch of Jack offs that don't even watch our games following some stupid *** narrative and telling me what our problems are. mean.gif

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It's another perspective. I understand your write up and focusing on the 1, but again, that 1 position is why these guys make so much money. More than the RG, or the TE, or the offensive coordinator.

That said, at this point the best scenario is 0-4 and a top 7 pick. I foresee the team beating the Chargers and Colts, however, and pulling in another 7-9 season. mean.gif

I REALLY hope there is a group planning the next coaching regime right now. No Manginis or Haleys
post #1496 of 1658
That one position makes more than the RG, correct.

It does NOT make more than the RG, LT, WR, RB, DT, S, CB, DE, LB, RT, LG, etc etc combined.

Hence, point.
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post #1497 of 1658
Here we go
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its nice seeing a game on live TV with nationwide coverage here in pittsburgh from time to time.
i feel like i bought this 65" tv for no reason when i have to watch most of my games on bootleg internet stream laugh.gif

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Had em smh
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Had em smh

Lamar Miller catches that ball.

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