OFFICIAL 2015 M!AM! DOLPH!NS SEASON THREAD (6-10) / NEXT:

QB isn't the problem. If you think Tannehill is the problem then you haven't been watching.
then coach let me know the issue cause tannehill not that consistent at qb

[COLOR=#red]In Order:

Front Office
All Coaching
DB/LBs/DLine/OLine (all the same levels of bad)
Coaching once again because it's been awful.
Ownership.
Front office.
Play calling.
Lack of preparation and situational coaching.
Play Calling.[/COLOR]
 
Never experienced such a deflated feeling in victory .... nothing to boast about but an opportunity to highlight the few positives we exhibit
 
W on the road against a playoff contender? I'll take it.

Things I liked:
-Pass rush got great pressure on Bradford and Sanchez all day. Had a couple sacks and forced two fumbles.
-Reshad Jones is a stud.
-So is Jarvis Landry.
-Ryan kept his composure despite getting mauled all day. Didn't have a great day, but led our offense to score 17 unanswered on the way to victory.

Things I did not like:
-Forcing fumbles isn't enough, we need to recover them and capitalize on their mistakes.
-Everyone on our secondary not named Reshad Jones. They could not cover anyone today, especially not their TEs. Miles Austin gets two feet in and we would've lost on a TD pass from Mark Sanchez.
-Kenny Stills cannot catch.
-Having Williams return kicks with a bad hand.
-An overall lack of football IQ across the board. From Williams trying to take it out of the endzone after dropping the ball to Landry not fair catching even though there are four Eagles following the punt ready to ground it within our 5 yard line.
-Ryan needs to learn how to read blitzes and make adjustments. That safety could've been prevented.
-Ryan needs to tighten up his accuracy.

I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but that's all I have for now.
 
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Like I have said ALLLLLLL year.

On the ONE yard line, you call for snap under center, and FIVE step drop?????????? Lazor calls 2 billion quick hitters, but on the one, a five step drop.

Blame who?


Jordan Cameron, seam busting stud, 3rd and 7, he runs a five yard curl.

Blame who?

Brent Celek, 71 yards allllllll year. 80 yards in first quarter.

Blame who?


Blame, WHO? I know who finnnns is blaming, the only position he watches, none of the rest. :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:

Good W today but that was close. Not sure why Lazor is still employed, should've been sent with Coyle and Philbin to a remote island

Romo might put up 450 yards on this defense
 
But you stayed railin on Tanne all game long.

How much of that **** was his fault tho? 2%? 5%? 10?

You peep Teddy Bridgewater's numbers? But he 7-2. Must be nice to have 52 other guys doin their jobs, no? Weird. :nerd:
 
But you stayed railin on Tanne all game long.

How much of that **** was his fault tho? 2%? 5%? 10?

You peep Teddy Bridgewater's numbers? But he 7-2. Must be nice to have 52 other guys doin their jobs, no? Weird. :nerd:

Tannehill didn't have a good game today CP. Yes there were some key drops by the receivers but he looked sloppy too. I saw overthrows, under throws; hell, the game-winning TD to Landry would have been a pick if it hadn't been batted. Not to mention the fact that he can't read a blitz to save his life, aside from the safety there were plays where he unnecessarily threw Lamar under the bus when an audible would have been the correct call. We won, and I liked how he kept his composure after taking a beating, but he still has a long way to go.
 
You're assuming stuff tho.

Can't read a blitz, or can't do anything about it? :nerd:

Who calls line slides? Pouncey, right? Is that happening? But you're saying Ryan is at fault for blitzes. No man, we simply do not know that.

The safety, he had 1.92 seconds from snap to sack. 1.92. The **** he gonna do with that, when Lazor's scheme has all these bunched up receivers?

That's the point no one ever points out. Just, bad play happened, QB fault.

Not me.


As for luck, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Like I said on Twitter, Ryan DESERVED that luck. Stills dropped that deep ball. The goalline toss to Stills off an inch, the throw to Landry where Landry slipped out of his break. He earned one damn lucky break.

BTW, Brady threw a flat out game ending INT, that the Safety dropped, point blank. Brady later won the game. Luck.

Evens out sometimes.
 
Tannehill didn't have a good game today CP. Yes there were some key drops by the receivers but he looked sloppy too. I saw overthrows, under throws; hell, the game-winning TD to Landry would have been a pick if it hadn't been batted. Not to mention the fact that he can't read a blitz to save his life, aside from the safety there were plays where he unnecessarily threw Lamar under the bus when an audible would have been the correct call. We won, and I liked how he kept his composure after taking a beating, but he still has a long way to go.

:pimp: Glad someone else sees it. The accuracy is questionable at times, and he's either not seeing the blitz or knows it's coming and can't change out of the play at all, which seems like a potato way of playing pro football

But you stayed railin on Tanne all game long.

How much of that **** was his fault tho? 2%? 5%? 10?

You peep Teddy Bridgewater's numbers? But he 7-2. Must be nice to have 52 other guys doin their jobs, no? Weird. :nerd:

Well ya know, would the Vikings be 7-2 with Tannehill? Would the Panthers be 9-0 with him? Would the Bungals be undefeated with Ryan? I don't see it. I don't see this guy succeeding without the other 52 guys being top notch, as you said. Now, the coaching could be better but the best QB's in football elevate their game no matter what is going on. Luck's coach BLOWS, but he still has lead his team to the playoffs 3 times. Is riverboat Ron all of a sudden an elite coach? C'mon man


You're assuming stuff tho.

Can't read a blitz, or can't do anything about it? :nerd:

Who calls line slides? Pouncey, right? Is that happening? But you're saying Ryan is at fault for blitzes. No man, we simply do not know that.

The safety, he had 1.92 seconds from snap to sack. 1.92. The **** he gonna do with that, when Lazor's scheme has all these bunched up receivers?

That's the point no one ever points out. Just, bad play happened, QB fault.

Not me.


As for luck, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Like I said on Twitter, Ryan DESERVED that luck. Stills dropped that deep ball. The goalline toss to Stills off an inch, the throw to Landry where Landry slipped out of his break. He earned one damn lucky break.

BTW, Brady threw a flat out game ending INT, that the Safety dropped, point blank. Brady later won the game. Luck.

Evens out sometimes.

The batted ball was luck, but yes it's nice that it went our way for once. fwiw, I don't think other teams ever fear Ryan, or talk about what a challenge it'll be to slow him down. He doesn't pose much of a threat if you and I and them all know that he "can't audible" as you're saying. That is stupid football. Is the QB a potato? You think Brady or Rivers would accept his coach saying "I won't let you audible" LMAO
 
For the record, I like Ryan. I have been in his corner from the beginning and still am. I was just noting some of my observations about his play yesterday. I still believe in him moving forward. I think his issues can be fixed, and his upside and athletic ability outweigh his shortcomings. We just have to surround him with the right staff. I hope this Sean Payton noise is true.
 
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For the record, I like Ryan. I have been in his corner from the beginning and still am. I was just noting some of my observations about his play yesterday. I still believe in him moving forward. I think his issues can be fixed, and his upside and athletic ability outweigh his shortcomings. We just have to surround him with the right staff. I hope this Sean Payton noise is true.

Not sure about Payton based on how his Saints play defense, but he could probably teach Ryan some things. Also, not sure on the history of Super Bowl winning coaches going elsewhere and winning it all, not sure I want a guy who isn't as hungry.

Also, at some point you have to ask the QB to step up. He's on his 2nd head coach, 2nd coordinator, has gone from throwing to Clay, Mike Wallace and Hartline to Landry, Stills, and Cameron so enough of the weapons excuses.
 
Not sure about Payton based on how his Saints play defense, but he could probably teach Ryan some things. Also, not sure on the history of Super Bowl winning coaches going elsewhere and winning it all, not sure I want a guy who isn't as hungry.

Also, at some point you have to ask the QB to step up. He's on his 2nd head coach, 2nd coordinator, has gone from throwing to Clay, Mike Wallace and Hartline to Landry, Stills, and Cameron so enough of the weapons excuses.

The weapons excuse can be put to bed I couldn't agree more. Where I think Tanne can measure is whether or not he can facilitate the "intangibles". The young man can throw a football, he doesn't have to prove his value in that regard anymore ... now on to the measurable accolades that can propel him from being just a 4 and out QB to a game winning drive QB. I have not and will not give up on his development
 
I want to play a game... I wonder if the Dolphins can pull an Astros to an extent.

Would any of you take that? Say the Dolphins have another 8-8 season... which they will because it's the Dolphins... If they COULD trade assets (let's say Suh,Tannehill, Jordan, Pouncey, and Jones) stock pile draft picks and fire the entire front office and staff. Bring in a decent GM and say Kevin Sumlin for sh-ts and giggles.

Would you pull that trigger?
 
The weapons excuse can be put to bed I couldn't agree more. Where I think Tanne can measure is whether or not he can facilitate the "intangibles". The young man can throw a football, he doesn't have to prove his value in that regard anymore ... now on to the measurable accolades that can propel him from being just a 4 and out QB to a game winning drive QB. I have not and will not give up on his development

At this point I am not sure this team invests another first round pick into the QB position, therefore we're forced to play #17 for the time being. One thing, dude somehow is tough as nails, I've been wondering for a while what would happen if Matt Moore was inserted into the lineup but Tannehill is never hurt. :lol:

I want to play a game... I wonder if the Dolphins can pull an Astros to an extent.

Would any of you take that? Say the Dolphins have another 8-8 season... which they will because it's the Dolphins... If they COULD trade assets (let's say Suh,Tannehill, Jordan, Pouncey, and Jones) stock pile draft picks and fire the entire front office and staff. Bring in a decent GM and say Kevin Sumlin for sh-ts and giggles.

Would you pull that trigger?

Yep. As we see with Suh, you can pay $100+ million for a superstar and it doesn't make an impact in the standings
 
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Just another finnns day.

So the Vikes wouldn't be 7-2 with Ryan handing off to AP and letting their defense win games? Only Teddy can manage that? :lol:

And Dalton (who Ryan has beat multiple times) is somehow that much better, to you? :lol:


Audibles aren't just QB, you know that, right? If the coaches don't use audibles, that means the other 10 guys on offense don't know the calls either, right? So you want Ryan to do, what? Check into a play the other 10 guys don't know? :rofl:

The coaching staff teaches audibles all week, every week, every season.

Do you see Pouncey pointing, calling out line shifts?
Do you see Ryan yellin 53 is Mike, etc?

We don't run a system with audibles. That's not Ryan's call, that is the coach. (Not sure which, Philbin, Dan, Lazor?)

We don't have them. That's why the Jets blitz over and over, and the line never slides. That's not QB, that's system. Why the **** do you keep trying to pin it on ONE guy? :lol: Jesus Christ.

The ENTIRE offense would need to adjust pre snap on audible calls. You think Dallas Thomas can handle that? Jason Fox? Billy Turner? DVP? Kenny Stills? Ajayi?

We have kindergarten coaches man, face it. Offende, and defense, we play bland, vanilla styles. Not nuanced, deep thinking systems with multiple reads, situational thinking.

NE secondary is trash, and they go out every week and win. OLine is trash. Go out every week and win. That ain't Brady. They are coached, every day. They know how to handle every situation, every down, every assignment. Routes, reads, blocks, formations, rules, downs, distance, every single player on the roster 1-53, they know their job.

Do all our players know their jobs finnns?

But you want to put that on Ryan, cuz quarterback. :smh:
 
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Just another finnns day.

So the Vikes wouldn't be 7-2 with Ryan handing off to AP and letting their defense win games? Only Teddy can manage that? :lol:

And Dalton (who Ryan has beat multiple times) is somehow that much better, to you? :lol:


Audibles aren't just QB, you know that, right? If the coaches don't use audibles, that means the other 10 guys on offense don't know the calls either, right? So you want Ryan to do, what? Check into a play the other 10 guys don't know? :rofl:

The coaching staff teaches audibles all week, every week, every season.

Do you see Pouncey pointing, calling out line shifts?
Do you see Ryan yellin 53 is Mike, etc?

We don't run a system with audibles. That's not Ryan's call, that is the coach. (Not sure which, Philbin, Dan, Lazor?)

We don't have them. That's why the Jets blitz over and over, and the line never slides. That's not QB, that's system. Why the **** do you keep trying to pin it on ONE guy? :lol: Jesus Christ.

The ENTIRE offense would need to adjust pre snap on audible calls. You think Dallas Thomas can handle that? Jason Fox? Billy Turner? DVP? Kenny Stills? Ajayi?

We have kindergarten coaches man, face it. Offende, and defense, we play bland, vanilla styles. Not nuanced, deep thinking systems with multiple reads, situational thinking.

NE secondary is trash, and they go out every week and win. OLine is trash. Go out every week and win. That ain't Brady. They are coached, every day. They know how to handle every situation, every down, every assignment. Routes, reads, blocks, formations, rules, downs, distance, every single player on the roster 1-53, they know their job.

Do all our players know their jobs finnns?

But you want to put that on Ryan, cuz quarterback. :smh:

I get that which is why I said it's a potato way of playing football. We have no business having coaches like this when freakin Omar is saying a blitz is coming on 3rd down but neither Lazor nor Tannehill can adjust to it.

This whole system has been DOA and it's a shame that Lazor stuck around when Coyle and Philbin were sent packing. This is two straight offensive coordinators that failed us.
 
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