Lord Jamar : "Eminem is no Different than Macklemore" + Royce & Jamar talk about it on Twitter

Osek206 said:
There is a huge difference in "Skill" level but what he's saying is right. There benefiting from the machine that's backing
them both. I really don't see how anyone can disagree with this. A few things like the lack of soul in Em's music I don't
agree with. I feel everything he raps about comes from a true place, along with Mack. Lord clearly is pissed off but I
completely understand why.
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Im not saying this to question what u saying but just as a straight question but who in rap thats successful is not benefitting from the machine?
 
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sckid20 said:
Im not saying this to question what u saying but just as a straight question but who in rap thats successful is not benefitting from the machine?
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I agree, most successful ish type of artist have something behind them. I just think there are different
vehicles pushing certain artist further in the game then others. An example would be "I" by K-dot,
if that was Mack's song it would be on top 40 all day and be praised. Clearly it's not going that route
in K-dot's market. Maybe the people don't want to hear that type of sound from him or not.
 
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Eminem was fledging before 1999/2000. Listen to the "Infinite" album from '96. Em clearly also says AZ and Nas were his biggest influences. For the record, Canibus is an equal or better lyricist than Eminem. Macklemore and Eminem both have had substance abuse issues. Macklemore had songs and albums on itunes well before "Thrift Shop". He changed up his style to make money and jet out of the game...
 
numbah1grimey said:
Eminem was fledging before 1999/2000. Listen to the "Infinite" album from '96. Em clearly also says AZ and Nas were his biggest influences. For the record, Canibus is an equal or better lyricist than Eminem. Macklemore and Eminem both have had substance abuse issues. Macklemore had songs and albums on itunes well before "Thrift Shop". He changed up his style to make money and jet out of the game...
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Not hating on Mack by any means, I've been around him before he blew. Use to come up to the school and flow with
everybody else. He's a genuine dood that just wants to rap. He just got with a producer that made a more commercial
style of music that worked. But his shows in Seattle that I remember were always packed, but this was when his name
big in the town. His grind is real.
 
Osek206 said:
Not hating on Mack by any means, I've been around him before he blew. Use to come up to the school and flow with
everybody else. He's a genuine dood that just wants to rap. He just got with a producer that made a more commercial
style of music that worked. But his shows in Seattle that I remember were always packed, but this was when his name
big in the town. His grind is real.
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The Heist dropped in 2012. So I'll say the songs carried over into 2013. For a relatively "new" mainstream artist, why hasn't he dropped more songs or been on more features in 2014? I don't see a grind. Appears as if the grind subsided, post-accolades.
 
Osek206 said:
sckid20 said:
Im not saying this to question what u saying but just as a straight question but who in rap thats successful is not benefitting from the machine?
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I agree, most successful ish type of artist have something behind them. I just think there are different
vehicles pushing certain artist further in the game then others. An example would be "I" by K-dot,
if that was Mack's song it would be on top 40 all day and be praised. Clearly it's not going that route
in K-dot's market. Maybe the people don't want to hear that type of sound from him or not.
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That song just isn't that good, IMO. Wouldn't matter who was rapping. Joint is the epitome of "meh". Lazy *** sample and hook. Great message but it just isn't that great of a song.
 
Did not watch. Jamar a clown. I don't really ***** w Em but comparing him to Mac is like comparing ASAP Rocky to Scarface. Disrespectful.

What Sadat and Puba be thinking of this clown :smh:
 
numbah1grimey said:
The Heist dropped in 2012. So I'll say the songs carried over into 2013. For a relatively "new" mainstream artist, why hasn't he dropped more songs or been on more features in 2014? I don't see a grind. Appears as if the grind subsided, post-accolades.
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Kinda of true, before back home he was grinding shows left and right but now its pretty dry.
 
Royce & Jamar speaking about it on twitter



PRhyme Verified account ‏@Royceda59
Eminem is not to be mentioned in the same breath as ANY new artist... Not white... Not black... Or green @lordjamar I'll elaborate



PRhyme Verified account ‏@Royceda59
His contributions to the artform put him in a different discussion.. Not his talent.. His talent is what got your attn in 2000 @lordjamar




PRhyme Verified account ‏@Royceda59
He helped architect the Chronic 2001.. MMLP is arguably a classic.. He signed 50 cent.. @lordjamar




PRhyme @Royceda59 · 36m 36 minutes ago

He signed 7 good brothers from Detroit and changed their lives @lordjamar .. He did a movie that put the battle rap culture on a pedestal




PRhyme Verified account ‏@Royceda59
These are just to name a few.. These aren't accolades.. They're contributions @lordjamar




PRhyme @Royceda59 · 7 mins7 minutes ago

Your opinion is your opinion @lordjamar












PRhyme @Royceda59 · 7 mins7 minutes ago

I'm not disputing your opinion bruh RT @lordjamar: @Royceda59 I respect his body of work but he's nothing SACRED to me.










PRhyme @Royceda59 · 14 mins14 minutes ago

VLads couch is your platform to discredit things... I watched pretty much all those interviews.. @lordjamar











PRhyme @Royceda59 · 15 mins15 minutes ago

Well in the future, please take into consideration your own legendary status while addressing these topics @lordjamar












PRhyme @Royceda59 · 28 mins28 minutes ago

Ok I'm done RT @lordjamar: @Royceda59 Please acknowledge when ur done so that I may reply without cutting u off. #listening0









PRhyme @Royceda59 · 29 mins29 minutes ago

So as an OG, I'd like to see you separate your personal opinion from facts.. Even on VLads couch @lordjamar0










PRhyme @Royceda59 · 30 mins30 minutes ago

So basically he's not "just like" anybody.. He's the first we've seen.. Like it or not.. @lordjamar0











PRhyme @Royceda59 · 32 mins32 minutes ago

15 years of hard work and dedication.. You can't fake it that long cuz @lordjamar0








PRhyme @Royceda59 · 35 mins35 minutes ago

A lotto people don't like what he talks about but he's just telling his story.. No different from preferring ... http://tmi.me/1eVM9G




https://twitter.com/Royceda59
 
Royce handled that well. Jamar needed to be taken to task over his commentary on race lately. Dude is delusional.
 
numbah1grimey said:
Eminem was fledging before 1999/2000. Listen to the "Infinite" album from '96. Em clearly also says AZ and Nas were his biggest influences. For the record, Canibus is an equal or better lyricist than Eminem. Macklemore and Eminem both have had substance abuse issues. Macklemore had songs and albums on itunes well before "Thrift Shop". He changed up his style to make money and jet out of the game...
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Infinite needs to be mentioned more in Em's catalog.
 
Stopped listening after "what's different about him" ... People can say what they want, but Eminem was nicer than the majority of ****** when he dropped.

Who the hell are we to determine what "peoples" can learn an art, master there craft, and contribute?
 
MrSwagtastic said:
numbah1grimey said:
Eminem was fledging before 1999/2000. Listen to the "Infinite" album from '96. Em clearly also says AZ and Nas were his biggest influences. For the record, Canibus is an equal or better lyricist than Eminem. Macklemore and Eminem both have had substance abuse issues. Macklemore had songs and albums on itunes well before "Thrift Shop". He changed up his style to make money and jet out of the game...
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Infinite needs to be mentioned more in Em's catalog.
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Yes. Great album. The title track still blows my mind.
 
just nikes said:
I don't ever want to hear Lord Jamar's name again
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If we could ship this 40 year old early 2000's wardrobe wearing clown off to space all would be right in the world. He needs to keep other artists names out his mouth.
 
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