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freakydestroyer said:
Before I thought Ward can handle Kovalev, now I would probably take that back. He doesn't have a beard like B-Hop and he is not as defensive. There is no way Ward dances around Kovalev for 12 rounds without getting clipped.
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He'll just clinch and headbutt for 12 rounds. Read an interview Kovalev's trainer did in December and he wants Ward to move up.
 
If/when GGG ever moves up that much, I honestly see him beating both SOG and the Krusher. I don't think SOG can rough up GGG enough, and Krusher doesn't have the chin that GGG does.

I've never seen GGG hurt. I've seen Kovalev hurt.
 
If GGG had comp to fight, we'd see him get buzzed.
I think Sergey is a Better boxer than GGG.
He has fought many different styles and beat different fighters with either superior athleticism or better boxing skills.

It also seems like there is a tremendous size difference between GGG/Sergey
 
JapanAir21 said:
If/when GGG ever moves up that much, I honestly see him beating both SOG and the Krusher. I don't think SOG can rough up GGG enough, and Krusher doesn't have the chin that GGG does.

I've never seen GGG hurt. I've seen Kovalev hurt.
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Damn, bold predictions. I'd be shocked if GGG beat Kovalev, but I wouldn't mind seeing it I guess. I think Kovalev is too big, too long and hits too hard for GGG though. He also took some bombs from Pascal and kept moving. If I had to put money on who's chin cracks first I think it's GGG. And Ward is gonna smother GGG. Bigger and stronger than everybody he's ever been against, and also 10x the boxer. It'll be interesting but I think Ward takes it. I think Kovalev might win vs. Ward though, dude is an animal. I'd like to see Ward give it a shot regardless though.
 
We've never seen GGG get backed up, and I've never seen a boxer that cuts off as well as GGG in a long time. Krusher being a better boxer is debatable IMO, and in terms of effective combinations, GGG right now is a sharpshooter.
 
I remember Curtis Stevens catching GGG with some bombs that made him stop moving forward once or twice in that fight, but yeah that's about as much as I've seen him "hurt". But watching that Murray fight and seeing the combinations that GGG left himself open to, and also his lack of ability to take Murray out earlier in the fight when he was clearly hurt, it's hard for me to believe that some guys who are bigger, stronger, better boxers than anything he's ever seen can't expose the holes in his game. If Murray had any kind of power, that fight could've been much more interesting. But either way I'd love to see a fight between any combo of Kovalev/Ward/GGG happen. Also add Beterbiev, Stevenson and Pascal in there too. Definitely some interesting fights to be made around those weight classes.
 
I swear I remember reading an interview where Kovalev basically said GGG's power is scary, but I can't find it now.

According to Abel Sanchez, some time ago GGG dropped Kovalev in sparring and Kovalev was too respectful in sparring due to GGG's power. I take that with a grain of salt because sparring isn't fighting and both have probably improved since then.

I think GGG could make problems for Kovalev because the way he controls the ring and picks is shots. Kovalev boxes well and has power, but looks very awkward fairly often in the ring.
 
:shock if GGG was able to actually kd Kov.
Even if it was sparring, that's still :nthat:.


-Drew
 
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What is the significance? Floyd on the clear? Maybe his arms grew from putting in extra work lifting them big girls?
 
Degenerate423 said:
freakydestroyer said:
Before I thought Ward can handle Kovalev, now I would probably take that back. He doesn't have a beard like B-Hop and he is not as defensive. There is no way Ward dances around Kovalev for 12 rounds without getting clipped.
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He'll just clinch and headbutt for 12 rounds. Read an interview Kovalev's trainer did in December and he wants Ward to move up.
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Kovalev is too big and physically strong to clinch, this isn't Mikkel Kessler. Anyhow there were talks of Thomas Oz-something from South Africa being offered a Ward fight if he won on Saturday and he did.
 
[h1]John David Jackson on Andre Ward, Adonis Stevenson and Artur Beterbiev and the Sergey Kovalev-Gennady Golovkin spar[/h1]
There’s been speculation that Sergey had a torrid time in sparring with Gennady Golovkin…

Me and Sergey talked about that. Abel [Sanchez]’s blown that out of proportion. Yes they sparred. Sergey said, ‘John, the reason I don’t want to spar the kid is because I’ve got to hurt him. He said Triple G’s a tough guy, I’ve got to hit him with everything I’ve got to keep him off me and that’s going to hurt him. We’re friends. He says then Abel tries to make it a war and that’s not what we’re in there for. ‘That’s why I refuse to spar with the kid. Why should I have a war with him when I’m not going to make any money from it?’ He said Abel starts all this stuff but said, ‘The kid’s rough. I admit that. I had to hit him with everything I have to get him off. That’s all that was.’ They’re friends.

If you could have any fight for him would it be Adonis Stevenson?

Financially that’s the fight to have. That’s the fight that’s going to make the most money for him but the fight I want him to fight because the kid is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters is Andre Ward. Andre presents a different problem. He’s young, he’s strong, I think that’s a good fight for Sergey. Not action-wise, because Sergey’s going to be the action fighter, but here’s a kid who does things his way and does them well. Grabbing, holding, punching when he wants to and if you have the fight out of California it would definitely be an interesting fight. It would be interesting to have it inside California but to have it outside would be more interesting. But I think it’s a fight the fans deserve to see because Andre is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters and the best should fight the best for the fans.

Would he have to fight at light-heavyweight?

He’d have to. There’s not catchweight. You fought at light-heavyweight as an Olympian, you won there. You’re fighting smaller guys now. Go back up and fight the bigger guys.

You don’t seem to rate the threat posed by Adonis Stevenson.

Stevenson is a threat, he always has a threat. I’ve seen Sergey in with guys who can punch in sparring and he goes nowhere. Yes, bigger gloves and bigger headgear but it doesn’t faze him. There are a lot of up and coming young guys who are out there.

What about a fight Artur Beterbiyev, who defeated Kovalev in the amateurs?

The bad thing about boxing today is it’s micromanaged. People are having title fights when they’re 10-0, 8-0, they haven’t even learned the game yet, or haven’t even been given the chance to be taught or learn as a professional. So, when they get to these championship fights they’re winning but they’re fighting guys at the same level and limited ability that they have. Right now that kid is learning the pro game so I say if he wants to fight, take it. It’s 12 rounds, take the fight. He’s got 12 rounds to try to beat you, we’ve been 12. Has he been 12, hard rounds yet? It’s a different game.

How much work have you had to do with Sergey Kovalev throughout your time with him?
I’ve put in some work but it’s different to most fighters I work with. I let him do pretty much what he wants to do and then I show him certain things and let him develop those things into his repertoire and the way he wants to do that. Sometimes we might fight over it but he will go home and do that and come fight night everything that I ask him to do he does for me. He might not really want to do it in the beginning but he does it and come fight night everything I ask him to do, he does. So it’s nice to see him progress and the way he’s developed.
You lost to Bernard Hopkins as a pro, was Sergey’s victory revenge for you in any way?
It was nice in the sense that the things I showed this kid he did, he did it to perfection and it worked for him. As far as a revenge thing that never came into play for me because the only way I could have got revenge was if I fought him again and beat him myself. For someone else to beat him it does nothing for me. The gratification for the win for the kid was there, but it did nothing for me personally.
What has Sergey got in his locker that we haven’t seen yet?
 
You’ve seen the left hook to the body now, he might have a few more surprises. I’ve seen his heart, luckily he hasn’t shown that yet. I’ve had him in sparring sessions when you’re sparring 12-four minute rounds and you’ve got fresh guys coming in every three rounds trust me, you have heart. He has the heart and determination to remain champion for a while.

Author: Tris Dixon

Source: http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/joh...and-the-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-spar/
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mr jordan04 said:
Don't know if this is real/photoshopped/current but it was posted on Twitter
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Even if it was real, likely he just worked out his arms and they're just pumped, or he's on creatine or something, but it won't really matter because size does not always equal power. Bradley is huge but lacks power, so I doubt even if Floyd gets bigger he will get an advantage. If anything it can slow him down with the amount of muscle he gains. Also, lets hope he doesn't go over the weight limit come weigh-in.

In other news, Manny Pacquiao is said to be sparring with Guillermo Rigondeaux again to prepare for Floyd. This is such a brilliant plan.
 
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I always thought that a lot of Floyd success is attributed to his reach, Rigondeaux can't replicate that but it should still be interesting.
 
Steve Cunningham got the Herrera treatment. Props to him because he also fought Fury well/close in 2013.

Arreola showed an impressive beard. Harper was peppering him with significant shots in the middle rounds and changed the entire tide of the fight after Arreola's R1 knockdown of Harp. The only honest judge had a 76-75 score. Arreola did not win by three or even five points as the other two judges would wildly suggest.

Don't look now but the Glen Tapia comeback tour is beginning to come full circle. Three consecutive TKO victories since the excessive punishment he endured against Kirk. Dawson's only been knocked out once previous to Tapia.

For my Jersey heads, even though he lost, keep an eye out on Tommy LaManna. From Millville, my friends ride for him and call him "Cornflake."

@Elpablo21, "Hi-Tech" going to systemically dismantle "G-Rod." This dude Vasyl never takes easy fights. Glad Loma's on the PBF/Manny undercard for exposure purposes. I want Walters after this. Gamalier has never been finished. For that reason, I'm predicting Lomachenko cruises to wide decision while securing one knockdown.

freakydestroyer freakydestroyer , I'm curious why you thought Shiming drew or won (forget your exact words) versus Ruenroeng. Interesting dynamic between the two. They've fought each other four times now and have split down the middle two wins apiece. Amnat's style is so awkward, makes it difficult to prepare for. There's really no ideal sparring partner that duplicates the way he boxes. Plus Freddie said Ruenroeng threw out some surprises that weren't revealed on tape.

BlackCease said:
I remember Curtis Stevens catching GGG with some bombs that made him stop moving forward once or twice in that fight, but yeah that's about as much as I've seen him "hurt".
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Got me hyped. That's the difference between Golovkin and other middleweights. Maybe some can match GGG's power, but when Golovkin gets hit, he shrugs it off and continues to come forward undeterred. Not to mention the accumulation of conscious body work. Once my boy Stevens, truly felt Golovkin's clean power, he folded and didn't want to fight anymore.
 
MR HIGHNESS said:
Even if it was real, likely he just worked out his arms and they're just pumped, or he's on creatine or something, but it won't really matter because size does not always equal power. Bradley is huge but lacks power, so I doubt even if Floyd gets bigger he will get an advantage. If anything it can slow him down with the amount of muscle he gains. Also, lets hope he doesn't go over the weight limit come weigh-in.

In other news, Manny Pacquiao is said to be sparring with Guillermo Rigondeaux again to prepare for Floyd. This is such a brilliant plan.
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I always felt that Floyds size and strength has been underrated. When he's fighting guys that are in his weight class, he normally looks like the bigger, stronger guy. Outside of Maidana - who's a pretty vicious infighter - Floyd normally beats people up inside. Smothers them, elbows, defends everything and counters all of it in the clinch. Can't wait to see how Manny responds to that.
 
GUNNA GET IT said:
It also seems like there is a tremendous size difference between GGG/Sergey
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Not really

Fight Night golovkin weighs 182 and kovalev weighs 190

hbo needs to make that fight happen just like they did Rigo/Donaire
ChampCruThik said:
Steve Cunningham got the Herrera treatment.
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No he didn't

Steve never held or headbutted his opponent, he slugged it out with him and he clearly won

Damn shame that man always gets robbed
 
trynalivemane said:
Not really

Fight Night golovkin weighs 182 and kovalev weighs 190
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You have a source for that? Most I've seen them write is 170lbs on fight night. I find 182lbs hard to believe considering his weight on the 30 day weight check is usually 160-163.
 
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