January '15 No-Fap Challenge vol: the entire year is too much

DarthSka said:

What I'm about to say is going to SOUND like I disagree with what you just said, so let me preface with this: I don't disagree. If someone needs porn to get going, there's a problem.

HOWEVER... there are women out there that understand the excitement for porn, and don't want their man to put it away/give it up; they just want him to include her, let her in on the habit.

Obviously, there are some women like "Nope. You look at me, and me only."

But it's a grip of girls that will buy it for their man, women that will add vids to a guy's secret stash and then help him enjoy them.

Like I said, was just curious. Hate to think some of y'all are ashamed of something that is nothing to be ashamed of.

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Should you be ashamed of watching some big booty flick every two weeks or so? Nah.

Should you be ashamed of cracking open a laptop everyday with 20 tabs open?

Should you be ashamed of not being able to get your rocks off UNLESS you have your laptop open?

Should you be ashamed of the extreme types of fetish porn your watching?



We not talking about looking at atwerk video. This is about about extreme and hardcore porn being a debilitating crutch to your real world sex drive.

There was a video that explained it best.

Somebody puts a gun next to your ear and shoots it. It's going to hurt, but you'll eventually be able to regain hearing capacity.

The more times the gun is shot by your ear the harder it is to hear other stuff. Your ears become desensitized Ro sound

Porn is like a gunshot and your sex drive is like your ear.

Day 14

Googled Mia Khalifa yesterday Remember hew now, my friend is Lebanese and made a facebook post about her like a little over a month ago.

IDK about anyone else, but the endgame with me was to never do it again period. Not an issue with porn or anything but I'd rather not masturbate for the rest of my life if I can help it.

inb4 thats insane

Antidope said:

 
IDK about anyone else, but the endgame with me was to never do it again period. Not an issue with porn or anything but I'd rather not masturbate for the rest of my life if I can help it.

inb4 thats insane

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Nope thats my goal too for pretty much every reason named above.

Antidope said:

IDK about anyone else, but the endgame with me was to never do it again period. Not an issue with porn or anything but I'd rather not masturbate for the rest of my life if I can help it.


inb4 thats insane

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I dont think that is possible otherwise I would gun for that as well.

I just want to be able to get a diamond cutter erection while fapping with no porn so I am always ready.

I just feel that fapping is a waste of sexual energy

Also I am loving all the benefits that come with nofap lifestyle. I dont want to rewrite all of them tho

sunshineblotters said:

 

Antidope said:

IDK about anyone else, but the endgame with me was to never do it again period. Not an issue with porn or anything but I'd rather not masturbate for the rest of my life if I can help it.


inb4 thats insane

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I dont think that is possible otherwise I would gun for that as well.

I just want to be able to get a diamond cutter erection while fapping with no porn so I am always ready.

I just feel that fapping is a waste of sexual energy

Also I am loving all the benefits that come with nofap lifestyle. I dont want to rewrite all of them tho

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Every time I think that I watch this. Only limitations you have are the ones placed on yourself.

^Yeah it's a waste to me, that's one of the main reasons I want to stop now. Rather put that energy into a chick. And if I don't have one on tap I'll put that energy into building the rotation or even making business moves, whatever. Masturbation is a waste of life energy man.

Antidope said:

IDK about anyone else, but the endgame with me was to never do it again period. Not an issue with porn or anything but I'd rather not masturbate for the rest of my life if I can help it.


inb4 thats insane

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I honestly don't know if I think that's possible or not. Regardless, good luck fam. Not something i'm personally aiming for, but I support it.


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My bench was max out at 260 now I can bench 320 thank you no fap.

Seriously trying to get back in shape and put myself out there more. Realized before I was playing myself. Felt like I was living in some sort of fantasy world. As I creep closer to 30, I guess I realized this aint a game.

Meangene45 said:

My bench was max out at 260 now I can bench 320 thank you no fap.

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placebo b.

This has been entirely easy too easy. I'm thinkin cuz im flatlining like crazy. I dont event think fapping or porn has crossed my mind and with school staring back up this should be a cakewalk.

Not fapping ever again is unhealthy

Talmbout life energy son this ain't Naruto

I'm reminded of the episode of South Park where Randy compensates for his lack of alcohol related discipline and drinks nothing but soda and lemonade and refuses to drink socially or on blue moon occasions even when it's explained that there's nothing wrong with cracking open a beer with your bros

Ya'll racka disciprine

For those that question it, if you're having sex, just give it a shot for a month if you can. You'll feel the difference in sex 20+ days in. I just wanna have mastery over it to the point where it's only broken out to the point of extreme horniness, not just bored or trying to sleep or whatever.

Fontaine said:

DarthSka said:

What I'm about to say is going to SOUND like I disagree with what you just said, so let me preface with this: I don't disagree. If someone needs porn to get going, there's a problem.

HOWEVER... there are women out there that understand the excitement for porn, and don't want their man to put it away/give it up; they just want him to include her, let her in on the habit.

Obviously, there are some women like "Nope. You look at me, and me only."

But it's a grip of girls that will buy it for their man, women that will add vids to a guy's secret stash and then help him enjoy them.

Like I said, was just curious. Hate to think some of y'all are ashamed of something that is nothing to be ashamed of.

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Should you be ashamed of watching some big booty flick every two weeks or so? Nah.

Should you be ashamed of cracking open a laptop everyday with 20 tabs open?

Should you be ashamed of not being able to get your rocks off UNLESS you have your laptop open?

Should you be ashamed of the extreme types of fetish porn your watching?


We not talking about looking at atwerk video. This is about about extreme and hardcore porn being a debilitating crutch to your real world sex drive.

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I get that, but that's more about the person and less about porn itself.

Fontaine said:

Somebody puts a gun next to your ear and shoots it. It's going to hurt, but you'll eventually be able to regain hearing capacity.

The more times the gun is shot by your ear the harder it is to hear other stuff. Your ears become desensitized Ro sound

Porn is (can be) like a gunshot and your sex drive is like your ear.

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Fixed. Seems that the real issue could be lack of self-control, or having an addictive personality, or poor time management, or not knowing how to set boundaries, or a combination of those things, or other things.

Just my $.02

^Or addiction.

I never got what was so hard to quit about drugs until I quit fapping. All the opiates, amphetamines, hallucinogens, and narcotics I do I can (and have) easily quit when I wanted to (drug test, extended time spent around families, financial distress etc). Yah I got the withdrawal effects but it was nothing to ignore them.

This always gets me. I just have not been able to hit this 150 day mark. |I

^ Difference between narcotics and masturbation is that masturbation is natural.

Yes, it can become a hindrance to productivity, but quitting because it's presenting a problem is literally like quitting eating because you're rapidly gaining weight abd becoming unhealthy.

The solution isn't to quit, because food isn't the problem, and neither is eating. Eating is natural. The problem is control.

Same with masturbation. Masturbation isn't the problem; it's natural. The problem is control.

DarthSka said:

^ Difference between narcotics and masturbation is that masturbation is natural.

Yes, it can become a hindrance to productivity, but quitting because it's presenting a problem is literally like quitting eating because you're rapidly gaining weight abd becoming unhealthy.

The solution isn't to quit, because food isn't the problem, and neither is eating. Eating is natural. The problem is control.

Same with masturbation. Masturbation isn't the problem; it's natural. The problem is control.

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How do you suggest you gain control without learning to live without it for a while?

DarthSka said:

^ Difference between narcotics and masturbation is that masturbation is natural.

Yes, it can become a hindrance to productivity, but quitting because it's presenting a problem is literally like quitting eating because you're rapidly gaining weight abd becoming unhealthy.

The solution isn't to quit, because food isn't the problem, and neither is eating. Eating is natural. The problem is control.

Same with masturbation. Masturbation isn't the problem; it's natural. The problem is control.

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Endless amounts of Porn isnt natural, famb.

And addiction doesnt have to be to a man made product.

You're acting as if everyone who watches porn.. it's solely based on them not having self control issues.

But scientifically, the dopamine receptors crave the pleasurable feelings you get, and you get numb to them, needing more.


Can someone post that video? There are several articles explaining the effects of high speed internet and endless availability of porn, and it's effect on you. we're not just talking out our ***** here, famb. this is real problems.




Everyone agrees that masturbation is natural. nobody argued that or spoke against it... it's the PORN that's the problem.

Fontaine said:

DarthSka said:

^ Difference between narcotics and masturbation is that masturbation is natural.

Yes, it can become a hindrance to productivity, but quitting because it's presenting a problem is literally like quitting eating because you're rapidly gaining weight abd becoming unhealthy.

The solution isn't to quit, because food isn't the problem, and neither is eating. Eating is natural. The problem is control.

Same with masturbation. Masturbation isn't the problem; it's natural. The problem is control.

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Endless amounts of Porn isnt natural, famb.

And addiction doesnt have to be to a man made product.

You're acting as if everyone who watches porn.. it's solely based on them not having self control issues.

But scientifically, the dopamine receptors crave the pleasurable feelings you get, and you get numb to them, needing more.


Can someone post that video? There are several articles explaining the effects of high speed internet and endless availability of porn, and it's effect on you. we're not just talking out our ***** here, famb. this is real problems.




Everyone agrees that masturbation is natural. nobody argued that or spoke against it... it's the PORN that's the problem.

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I don't get why he's breaking it down to something so simplistic when it's an obvious issue. Dopamine is one of the most addictive things out there. There's a chemical element to overindulging in the quick release, it's not just "well you need self control". C'mon man.

Fontaine said:

 

DarthSka said:

^ Difference between narcotics and masturbation is that masturbation is natural.

Yes, it can become a hindrance to productivity, but quitting because it's presenting a problem is literally like quitting eating because you're rapidly gaining weight abd becoming unhealthy.

The solution isn't to quit, because food isn't the problem, and neither is eating. Eating is natural. The problem is control.

Same with masturbation. Masturbation isn't the problem; it's natural. The problem is control.

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Endless amounts of Porn isnt natural, famb.

And addiction doesnt have to be to a man made product.

You're acting as if everyone who watches porn.. it's solely based on them not having self control issues.

But scientifically, the dopamine receptors crave the pleasurable feelings you get, and you get numb to them, needing more.


Can someone post that video? There are several articles explaining the effects of high speed internet and endless availability of porn, and it's effect on you. we're not just talking out our ***** here, famb. this is real problems.

Everyone agrees that masturbation is natural. nobody argued that or spoke against it... it's the PORN that's the problem.

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Endless availability to porn is as much of a problem as endless amounts of fast food is to obesity.

Your statement could easily be, "There are several articles explaining the effects of fast food, and it's effect on you. we're not just talking out our ***** here, famb. this is real problems", and it would still be misguided.

The truth is, some people enjoy fast food occasionally, and they are perfectly fit; they are the picture of good health in fact.

Some people enjoy porn and lead perfectly healthy lives. There are people who are property managers and counselors to the mentally challenged who are also fathers and are in perfectly healthy relationships, and watch porn regularly with their girlfriend.

Fast food... ITSELF... is harmless.

Fast food... WHEN ABUSED... is deadly.

Porn... AAAAALLLL BY ITSELF... is harmless.

Porn... WHEN ABUSED, when allowed to take over, in the hands (pun intended) of someone who lacks self control... can be very debilitating.

But it doesn't seem like you want to open your mind to what I'm getting at.

And before you say, "Nah, b... YOU'RE not opening YOUR mind to what I'M saying," I've already thought the way you think. I had thought it for years. It literally cost me a marriage, thinking the way you do. Thinking that I'm a terrible person and porn is the devil's music and masturbation more than twice a year is unhealthy and I should be ashamed because that's someone's daughter and I need to get my life right and scientific studies show that I'm just as much of an addict as the next methhead I encounter.

Yep, I've already had that train of thought.

And I've opened my mind and increased my knowledge and humanistic awareness more, allowing me to grow past that.

My next presumption is that you'll make this black and white again, like this statement: "You're acting as if everyone who watches porn.. it's solely based on them not having self control issues."

That suggests (key word: SUGGESTS, meaning I'm not saying that ARE saying this that you think everyone who watches porn is out of control, and that I think that it's because they have self-control issues.

First off, no, I don't think that everyone who watches porn, it's solely based on them not having self control issues. I don't think that, because I don't think that everyone who watches porn has issues with self control.

Everyone who has their life consumed by porn has self control issues, but there are literally millions of people who don't have self control issues, and they watch porn while leading regular ol' lives.

And there are also people who DO have self control issues, and porn happens to be the thing controlling them at the moment. Remove porn, and something else will take over, because they have issues with self control. Porn, all by itself, isn't the issue.

Having a 'no fap' goal for personal acheivement? Hey, it's whatever. Having goals is exactly how we grow.

But shaming? Someone feeling bad because he 'gave in' after seeing Amber Rose? That's natural. Nothing to be ashamed of there. Pick your chin up.

Someone feeling bad because they realize that porn has taken their life over, and a 'no fap January' could do the trick? That's fine, but my concern would be that they don't realize that the issue of control is with their own self, not porn.

And I'm not pro-porn. I don't work in the industry. I'm not Phoenix Marie's attorney. I point that out because I know it might sound like I'm being all defensive about porn.

I'm not intending to.

I'm pro-'self growth'. I'm pro-'stop blaming other things when the answers are within yourself.'

And I hate to see people feel bad about something that they possibly feel bad about simply because they've been conditioned to feel bad about it.

What is going on here .

I will say that I know I have an addictive personality, video games and my music listening habits taught me that a long time ago.

I dont think I was ever ashamed of watching porn though, thats a crazy mindset to have. Socieity's shaming of the porn industry is one of the most hypocritical things that I've seen. Shaming people for a form of media that everyone consumes is nonsense.

That being said IDK what everyones opinion of excess is, but I would definitely say that at a point I was consuming it in excess. Its more of a "cut a vice out of my life" kind of deal, but I would never go out of my way to shame someone who does watch it or wants to go back to it post January. 

I wouldnt even consider myself a participant in this contest I havent watched porn in a minute, I'm just here to lend encouraging words to whomever is struggling with this "challenge"

So is drug addiction not physically damaging to the brain? must explain why quitting drugs is so easy for me but this so hard.

But I wouldnt blame people not talking to girls entirely on porn tbh.

You're having a completely different argument than what's happening in these threads. This isn't porn shaming, this isn't quit fapping altogether, it's to gain self control and that moderation for the abusers you speak of. For dudes that punish their meat to where they don't even desire real women anymore, slipping is a bad thing. They haven't gone through the recharge to where porn and masturabtion are fun again and not an addiction. It's like overcoming being a heroine junkie so you can enjoy weed again. THIS IS A RECHARGE! not a shaming, no morality pitch here. Slow down and read what's going on instead of reaching in your arsenal for an argument it looks like you've been waiting to let go. This isn't that thread man. Dudes need to stop coming in here with that nonsense like everyone's experience is the same. Again, clearly this is for the ones that abuse it, all this is is rehab. I'm not even in this joint, but you're doing more harm than good.