Farrakhan endorsing scientology? Paging luckluchiano

GWAP said:
I suppose you are a follower/have knoweledge of the NOI.

Please address the videos on the first page...

farrakhan endorsing scientology and malcolm speaking on elijah muhammad....

I don't want a circlejerk, we need an opposing perspective to get a full take on this.
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Just trying to put the pieces back together.
NOI ain't perfect and no other religion is. They all got a piece of the puzzle.


I respect that fact the Farrakhan is open minded enough to incorporate other ideas that have potential in them.

I think it's necessary. When you're guiding blacks out of a slave mentality, it's careful path you gotta tread. Specifically in America.
 
hallywoodxo said:
 
GWAP said:
I suppose you are a follower/have knoweledge of the NOI.

Please address the videos on the first page...

farrakhan endorsing scientology and malcolm speaking on elijah muhammad....

I don't want a circlejerk, we need an opposing perspective to get a full take on this.
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Just trying to put the pieces back together.
NOI ain't perfect and no other religion is. They all got a piece of the puzzle.


I respect that fact the Farrakhan is open minded enough to incorporate other ideas that have potential in them.

I think it's necessary. When you're guiding blacks out of a slave mentality, it's careful path you gotta tread. Specifically in America.
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hmm.... using scientology to guide people out of a slave mentality though?

Are you assuming that he knows what he's saying because he's farrakhan..

Or have you actually studied scientology and agree with it's methods?
 
RealShoeMice said:
Master Zik said:
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Bro tf? Lol this is real?
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Other than using somethings closer to our society I can't say the story itself is anymore crazier or out there than prophets riding off in to the sky in a chariot of fire, making women out of magic dust and a guy's rib, and any other fantastical event in other religions.

I realized long ago you can get anyone to believe in anything if you instill it in them when they're young enough. It almost becomes foolproof when you set up a defense mechanism to deal with interacting with other beliefs that go counter to your own by labeling them as heretics.
 
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hallywoodxo said:
HTG Designs said:
you disappoint but what else is new.
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Yet you've never challenged me on anything I've ever said or brought up. Still waiting on that explanation of that historical exodus.
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I've answered every question asked of me. Not gonna derail this and repeat my self. This NT not SnapChat. Scroll back through and look if you care to do anything but debate.
 
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GWAP said:
hmm.... using scientology to guide people out of a slave mentality though?

Are you assuming that he knows what he's saying because he's farrakhan..

Or have you actually studied scientology and agree with it's methods?
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Keep the conversation positive man. Just cause I can respect what someone else has done and is trying to do, there's no need to try and passively box me in has some black supreme radical.

With that said to answer your question, I respect what Farrakhan has done for the upliftment of black people and I also respect some of the pillars that Scientology has been founded on from an intellectual standpoint.

So with that that said how much do you know about Farrakhan? The teachings? And despite whose right or wrong Farrakhan and everyone in the NOI has openly delcared the white man as the devil/the enemy.

So how much I good you have about them that hasn't been presented by their considered enemy?
 
HTG Designs said:
I've answered every question asked of me. Not gonna derail this and repeat my self. This NT not SnapChat. Scroll back through and look if you care to do anything but debate.
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Look, I've given you bible verses where it specifically states it's allegorical, yet you wanted to have debates about the interpretation. Either way, I assume we're striving for the same goal which is peace and positivity. I got nothing but love for what you're attempting and passion you have it.

Hope people get passed this destructive mind state and realize what we have in common. (This is directed towards people in general)
 
hallywoodxo said:
 
GWAP said:
hmm.... using scientology to guide people out of a slave mentality though?

Are you assuming that he knows what he's saying because he's farrakhan..

Or have you actually studied scientology and agree with it's methods?
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Keep the conversation positive man. Just cause I can respect what someone else has done and is trying to do, there's no need to try and passively box me in has some black supreme radical.

With that said to answer your question, I respect what Farrakhan has done for the upliftment of black people and I also respect some of the pillars that Scientology has been founded on from an intellectual standpoint.

So with that that said how much do you know about Farrakhan? The teachings? And despite whose right or wrong Farrakhan and everyone in the NOI has openly delcared the white man as the devil/the enemy.

So how much I good you have about them that hasn't been presented by their considered enemy?
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The only things I know about them is what I've read/heard malcolm X say....

What white people even get into detail about the NOI?

The media downplays them instead of attacking really..

Is/Was malcolm their enemy? 

Why are white peopel the enemy by default? is this just racially white people? or eurpean/western oppression?
 
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GWAP said:
The only things I know about them is what I've read/heard malcolm X say....

What white people even get into detail about the NOI?

The media downplays them instead of attacking really..

Is/Was malcolm their enemy? and why?
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Divide and conquer. Simple as that.

Know thy history and study patterns, then form your opinion. How many times has the government infiltrated black communities in one way or another to bring it down?


How many times aside from conspiracy has the government been caught with its hand in the cookie jar? How many times has it been caught blatantly lying about its hand in the cookie jar.

"The revolution won't be televised"
 
Why dont you guys take this convo to a local NOI mosque? Lol because youre scared trolls. Ive seen long ago these trolls make these type of threads to rile people up and get cats banned. Nobody on here claims to be in the NOI so why aim questions only NOI members can answer to non NOI members? My last post in this thread.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Why dont you guys take this convo to a local NOI mosque? Lol because youre scared trolls. Ive seen long ago these trolls make these type of threads to rile people up and get cats banned. Nobody on here claims to be in the NOI so why aim questions only NOI members can answer to non NOI members? My last post in this thread.
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Is there a noi forum i can speak about this on?

I don't really have a free schedule to just sit down and chop it up for hours.

I'm at my office right now. Only time you see me on NT is when I'm working on something.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Why dont you guys take this convo to a local NOI mosque? Lol because youre scared trolls. Ive seen long ago these trolls make these type of threads to rile people up and get cats banned. Nobody on here claims to be in the NOI so why aim questions only NOI members can answer to non NOI members? My last post in this thread.
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And on that note peace to all the gods and Devils of the universe and anyone in between trying to find their way out the mud.
 
hallywoodxo said:
LuckyLuchiano said:
Why dont you guys take this convo to a local NOI mosque? Lol because youre scared trolls. Ive seen long ago these trolls make these type of threads to rile people up and get cats banned. Nobody on here claims to be in the NOI so why aim questions only NOI members can answer to non NOI members? My last post in this thread.
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And on that note peace to all the gods and Devils of the universe and anyone in between trying to find their way out the mud.
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GWAP said:
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I didn't even know Lucky was down with the nation or w/e but I don't think that's a reason to call him out like he's their rep on NT or something :lol:
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Me and him have gotten into debates about the NOI before when i was createdestroy..
He's pushed their ideology harder than anybody else on this site, so i will reference him whenever they come up.
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Was trying to figure out who you were.

This thread is funny though :lol:
 
hallywoodxo said:
HTG Designs said:
I've answered every question asked of me. Not gonna derail this and repeat my self. This NT not SnapChat. Scroll back through and look if you care to do anything but debate.
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Look, I've given you bible verses where it specifically states it's allegorical, yet you wanted to have debates about the interpretation. Either way, I assume we're striving for the same goal which is peace and positivity. I got nothing but love for what you're attempting and passion you have it.

Hope people get passed this destructive mind state and realize what we have in common. (This is directed towards people in general)
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We all look at things through our own scopes. But that same liberty can be detrimental when examining scripture...
But I respect our differences and even more so appreciate our similarities in that we treasure knowledge and want peace and love to reign.
Blessings.
 
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