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Do remember The Seahawks were underdogs against Denver last yr and won. The Giants were underdogs every yr against New England so i wouldnt count Seattle out just yet. when they get rollin its problems. But if New England loses then they gon b saying Brady cant win against other Elite Qbs, just watch.
 
dmxfury said:
Isn't Seattle the favorite?
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Nope 
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In the past, how accurate has the line been when it was 3 or less going into the SB?

Not sure if I worded that right. :lol:
 
amarano said:
am i the only one who thinks that even as the best defense in the NFL the hawks are overrated?

nothing personal against Sherman, i usually take a liking to "heels". but i dont think hes as good as everyone makes him out to be.

growing up i saw  corners like Deion, Ty Law, CWoodson in his prime, ROD woodson, Champ Baily play. Heck even that corner on San Fran with the neck celebration was nasty. These guys were tested. They lined up on both sides of the field. I dont get this only plays the left/right side of the field nonsense. 

i think a lot of sherman is smoke and mirrors. im not gonna get too far into it but the guy tips a pass or two and makes it like he saved the world from a nuclear detonation. 

i will however give him all the credit in the world pending this superbowl and that its not a mess like last years. i feel like we missed out on what could have been the greatest matchup of Offensive and Defense last year and something just went wrong with Denver.

Hopefully we get that this year.  
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I think Richard Sherman is the best cornerback since Deion
 
DarthSka said:
In the past, how accurate has the line been when it was 3 or less going into the SB?

Not sure if I worded that right. :lol:
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Not sure of that exact number from past games, but since I've been betting on Super Bowls (since '06?), the underdog has been money ATS and usually straight up.
 
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NFL found that 11 of the Patriots footballs used in AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each. Uh ohh
 
I want the Patriots to win, but you have to take Seattle with plus points if you're betting. Too much value there.
 
5 point swing from -3 to -2 on most books..just like last yr.

"No way brady/belichek............"
(Same as last yr..."no way peyton.........")
 
[h1]Super Bowl XLIX player rankings[/h1][h3]We rank every Super Bowl participant, from 1 to 106[/h3]

Updated:  January 20, 2015, 1:26 PM ET

By Mike Sando  and Matt Williamson  | ESPN Insider

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USA TODAY Sports - Darrelle Revis and Richard Sherman are the top two corners in this game, and probably the NFL.

The biggest game of the NFL season requires a ranking that can match it in its intensity. So, as we have for the past several years, we have gone through the 53-man rosters of both Super Bowl participants and ranked every player 1-106.

Note that this is not  a list of the most valuable players, although that naturally seeps into the perceptions of these players. Instead, this is a list of the best players overall, regardless of position. That's why our top five doesn't include either Tom Brady  or Russell Wilson.

Who will be the best players on the field for Super Bowl XLIX? Here is our ranking of every player on the New England Patriots  and Seattle Seahawks. While Seattle occupies six of the top 10 spots, the top overall player belongs to New England.

1. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Patriots:  With all due respect to Tony Gonzalez, Gronkowski is on pace to become the greatest tight end of all time. He's a playmaker and matchup nightmare as a pass-catcher and is also an outstanding blocker. The Pats go as Gronk goes, which arguably makes him the most important player on the field Feb. 1, in addition to being the best.

2. Marshawn Lynch, RB, Seahawks:  Lynch could easily rank No. 1 on this list. Counting playoffs, he leads the NFL in yards per carry after contact (2.55) and is a complete back (runner, receiver, blocker) with the versatility to produce at a high level regardless of the formation or even the blocking. Defensive players get tired of seeing him late in games.

3. Earl Thomas, FS, Seahawks: Seattle's coverage schemes work so well in part because Thomas has the speed to cover the field. As Thomas has become more experienced, he has filtered out negative plays from his game without losing the "splash" plays that make him special. Thomas forced a career-high three fumbles this season. He has a shoulder injury but has never missed a game in five seasons.

4. Richard Sherman, CB, Seahawks: Sherman has picked off 22 passes in 55 regular-season and postseason games over the past three seasons. No one else has more than 13 picks over that span (Thomas is tied for seventh with 11 INTs over the same 55-game run). Sherman improved his tackling this season, becoming a better player in run support as opposing quarterbacks tested him only sparingly. And when Aaron Rodgers  threw his way in the NFC title game, Sherman made him pay. An elbow injury is a potential concern.

5. Darrelle Revis, CB, Patriots: Revis' presence in New England has allowed the Patriots to go to a heavy man-to-man coverage scheme, because few (if any) corners in the league cover receivers one-on-one as well as Revis, who ranked just behind Sherman at No. 4 overall in Pro Football Focus' cornerback rankings. He should end up in Canton some day.

6. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: Speaking of Canton, Brady is obviously a lock for the Hall of Fame. After some early-season struggles, he is back to playing his usual great football. Having Gronkowski back at full strength has been a huge help for him this season. Brady finished fourth in the NFL in Total QBR this season.

7. Michael Bennett, DE, Seahawks:  This is the same spot (seventh) where Bennett ranked in the Super Bowl roster rankings from last season. Bennett finished the 2014 regular season ranked behind only Cameron Wake  in Pro Football Focus' grading for 4-3 defensive ends. He was third rushing the passer and first against the run. Only an unusually low grade for penalties prevented him from overtaking Wake for the top spot.

8. Russell Wilson, QB, Seahawks: Wilson is coming off the first four-interception game of his NFL career, but the way he played against Green Bay in the fourth quarter and overtime showed why he ranks so high on this list. Wilson typically protects the football so that Seattle can play to its strengths on defense and in the running game. Always a dual-threat player, Wilson showed late in the season an ability to connect with receivers on timing passes from inside the pocket.

9. Kam Chancellor, SS, Seahawks:  Chancellor does for the Seattle defense what Lynch does for the Seattle offense. He gives it a nasty, physical edge that opponents must respect. The Seahawks' defensive performance fell off earlier in the season when Chancellor was dealing with injury. Chancellor has successfully adapted his game to comply with player-safety rules, without losing his ferocity.

10. Devin McCourty, S, Patriots: Just a notch below the Seahawks' Thomas, McCourty is an exceptional deep-middle player who cleans up the errors of the 10 men in front of him while also creating big plays. He is the eighth-ranked safety according to PFF this season.

11. Jamie Collins, LB, Patriots: A 2013 second-round pick out of Southern Miss, Collins is a freak athlete who is really only just scratching the surface of what he could be. New England asks him to perform many tasks on defense and he is able to handle everything thrown at him, recording 116 tackles, four sacks and two INTs this season. Collins is on the cusp of greatness.

12. Bobby Wagner, LB, Seahawks: Wagner's return from a toe injury has been key for Seattle this season. The Seahawks allowed 4.5 yards per play, 3.4 yards per carry and a 36 percent conversion rate on third down during the 752 snaps when Wagner was on the field. Opponents averaged 5.1 yards per play, 4.0 yards per carry and 41.7 percent on third down across the 304 snaps when Wagner was off the field. It should add up to a contract extension for Wagner as early as the coming offseason.

13. Sebastian Vollmer, T, Patriots: The Patriots' offensive line has struggled quite a bit this season, but Vollmer has been far and away their best and most consistent member of the front five. He helped cover for some of his peers' mistakes earlier in the season, and now this unit is functioning at a much higher level.

14. Cliff Avril, DE, Seahawks: Avril's addition from Detroit in free agency in March 2013 has been critical for the Seahawks' pass rush. He ranks seventh in PFF pass-rush grading for 4-3 defensive ends. His memorable bull rush against Denver in the Super Bowl last season set up teammate Malcolm Smith  for a pick-six interception that helped Smith become MVP of the game.

15. Max Unger, C, Seahawks:  Unger missed 10 regular-season games to injury this season. Lynch has averaged 5.2 yards per carry on 149 rushes when Unger was in the game, compared to 4.4 yards per carry on 170 rushes when Unger was not in the game. He's relatively healthy now, though, and a two-week layoff before the Super Bowl should only help him.

16. Russell Okung, T, Seahawks:  Okung started 14 regular-season games and both playoff games, a big improvement from last season. He ranked only 36th out of 84 qualifying tackles in PFF grading (he was eighth as recently as 2012), but having him healthy is a big deal for Seattle's below-average line.

17. Dont'a Hightower, LB, Patriots: He isn't as athletic as his teammate Collins, but he is also asked to do quite a bit in the Patriots' scheme. Hightower is a foundation player for New England's defense, and never comes off the field.

18. K.J. Wright, LB, Seahawks: Rangy three-down linebackers have value. That is why Seattle extended Wright's contract during the season. He was sixth among 4-3 outside linebackers in PFF grading.

19. Chandler Jones, DE, Patriots:  Jones is a little up and down, but he has loads of ability and is the Patriots' best pass-rusher. If he can put it all together, he would quickly rank among the best defensive ends in the league.

20. Vince Wilfork, DT, Patriots:  

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AP Photo/Stephan SavoiaAt age 33, Vince Wilfork remains a major matchup problem for opponents.
Wilfork isn't the force he once was, but he remains a formidable man in the middle of New England's defense. The Pats also have been moving him around the formation quite a bit of late.
21. Byron Maxwell, CB, Seahawks:  Maxwell, who picked off Rodgers on Sunday, is without a contract for the 2015 season and it's unclear how much the Seahawks will want to pay him after investing heavily in their defense. A strong Super Bowl could set him up nicely in free agency.

22. Rob Ninkovich, LB, Patriots:  Ninkovich is a such a Bill Belichick-type of defensive player. He has a nonstop motor, is versatile and does everything asked of him every week.

23. Nate Solder, T, Patriots: This has been a down year for Solder, but the former tight end is very athletic (did you see his touchdown in the AFC title game?) and is a proven blindside protector for Brady. A lot will be asked of him against Seattle.

24. Julian Edelman, WR, Patriots: Edelman has capably replaced Wes Welker  as Brady's go-to target in the slot, but Edelman also will regularly line up outside the numbers. He is a chain-mover.

25. Bruce Irvin, LB, Seahawks: Irvin ranked 11th among 4-3 outside linebackers in PFF grading. He isn't the dominant pass-rusher Seattle hoped to get when it made Irvin the 15th player drafted in 2012, but Irvin is still a valuable player for the Seahawks.

26. Shane Vereen, RB, Patriots: An excellent receiving threat and a very good runner, Vereen's contract is up after this season. It will be very interesting to see where he lands, as his role could grow quite a bit on a new team.

27. Kevin Williams, DT, Seahawks: Seattle has done a very good job targeting veteran defensive linemen in free agency. Williams became even more important once the Seahawks lostBrandon Mebane  to a season-ending injury.

28. Patrick Chung, DB, Patriots:  A pure strong safety, Chung has quietly had a good season in one of the best secondaries in football. He is the No. 12 safety in PFF's grading.

29. Doug Baldwin, WR, Seahawks:  Baldwin is the Seahawks' best wide receiver, but he was not at his best during the NFC title game. Perhaps Seattle will get a more focused performance in the Super Bowl.

30. Luke Willson, TE, Seahawks: Seattle lost a lot when Zach Miller  went on injured reserve. Willson doesn't fill the void as a blocker, but he has three scoring receptions over the past four games, plus a critical catch for a two-point conversion in the NFC title game.

31. Kyle Arrington, CB, Patriots: Arrington is a solid and consistent contributor on the outside or as a slot cover man. Expect to see him on an island from time to time in the Super Bowl so the Patriots can crowd the line of scrimmage.

32. Akeem Ayers, LB, Patriots: Ayers is another highly versatile defender who was surprisingly let go during the season by Tennessee. In New England, he has flourished.

33. Brandon LaFell, WR, Patriots:  LaFell has been much more consistent with the Patriots than he was in four seasons with Carolina. He does a nice job of filling the role of deep threat in this offense.

34. O'Brien Schofield, DE, Seahawks:  Schofield collected both of his sacks during the final two weeks of the regular season. He averages about 20 snaps per game and forced a fumble against Carolina in the divisional round.

35. J.R. Sweezy, G, Seahawks: Sweezy missed only four snaps all season. He is better at run blocking than in pass protection.

36. LeGarrette Blount, RB, Patriots:  As with Ayers, the Patriots picked up Blount during the season, and this big, physical runner has embraced his role in a huge way. As he was in the AFC title game, Blount figures to be featured heavily in the Pats' game plan versus Seattle.

37. Jermaine Kearse, WR, Seahawks: Kearse had a rough game before catching the game winner against Green Bay. He has four scoring receptions in five playoff games over the past two seasons, tied with Demaryius Thomas  for most in the league.

38. Danny Amendola, WR, Patriots:  Injuries and the emergence of Edelman have made Amendola somewhat of a forgotten man, but he can still cause matchup problems and move the chains from the slot.

39. Ryan Wendell, G, Patriots: Wendell is solid and versatile as an interior offensive lineman, but isn't a high-end starter. Expect the Patriots to address the guard position early in the 2015 draft.

40. Bryan Stork, C, Patriots:

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AP Photo/Paul JasienskiBryan Stork is at the center of a solid New England offensive line.
The Patriots' offensive line gained continuity and played much better football when the rookie center, Stork, took over at the pivot. He should remain in that position for years to come.
41. Tharold Simon, CB, Seahawks: Simon is another long, rangy corner prospect and a potential starter next season if Maxwell departs.

42. Brandon Browner, CB, Patriots: Browner is a king-sized cornerback whose reputation as a cover man exceeds his true production. But with his size, the Patriots will align him on tight ends at times and he could see a lot of Willson in the Super Bowl.

43. Cameron Fleming, G, Patriots:  Like Stork, Fleming is a promising rookie offensive lineman for New England. He is a true tackle, and the Patriots have wisely used him often as their sixth lineman. They use such personnel groups better than any team in football.

44. Jeremy Lane, CB, Seahawks: Seattle has improved at nickel corner from a couple of years ago. Lane, who missed nine games this season due to injury, is one of the reasons.

45. Logan Ryan, CB, Patriots:  Ryan is a young cornerback with good size and has showed improvement during his time in the league. His biggest strength is his play on special teams.

46. Dan Connolly, G, Patriots:  Connolly is a guard/center who would ideally be New England's first man off the bench if a starting guard or center were to go down.

47. Malcolm Smith, LB, Seahawks:  Smith, last season's Super Bowl MVP, has played only 26 snaps over the past eight games, including two in the postseason.

48. Tim Wright, TE, Patriots: Wright hasn't been nearly as productive as Aaron Hernandez was opposite Gronk, but he plays a similar role in the offense as a complementary tight end.

49. Alan Branch, DT, Patriots: The veteran Branch can line up at multiple spots on the defensive line. His best trait is his ability to stymie a right tackle in the run game and hold his ground.

50. Robert Turbin, RB, Seahawks: Turbin has averaged 15.4 snaps and 4.6 carries per game while averaging 4.1 yards per rush as the Seahawks' first backfield option after Lynch.

51. Christine Michael, RB, Seahawks:  Michael has played only 99 snaps in 14 appearances since Seattle made him a second-round pick in 2013.

52. Stephen Gostkowski, K, Patriots: Gostkowski has done a great job following Adam Vinatieri. The kicker spot for Belichick has been very stable for a long time.

53. Tony McDaniel, DT, Seahawks: Pete Carroll said he likes unique or unusual qualities in players. McDaniel is unusually tall at 6-foot-7. He has averaged 23.9 snaps per game and recovered a fumble against Carolina in the divisional round.

54. Tarvaris Jackson, QB, Seahawks:  Jackson is best known for winning the coin toss in the NFC title game. He also has extensive experience in coordinator Darrell Bevell's offense. Seattle was 7-7 with Jackson as its starter in 2011, even though Jackson ranked 26th in Total QBR (38.3).

55. James Carpenter, G, Seahawks: Seattle did not exercise its fifth-year option on Carpenter, who was a first-round pick in 2011. Carpenter has started 15 games, counting playoffs. His block helped spring Lynch for the go-ahead scoring run in the NFC title game.

56. Justin Britt, T, Seahawks: Britt has had his struggles as a rookie second-round pick, but Seattle missed him when a knee injury sidelined Britt against the Packers. He's expected back for the Super Bowl.

57. Chris Jones, DT, Patriots:  Jones is a tough, try-hard guy who never quits and plays with good leverage in the run game.

58. Marcus Cannon, G, Patriots: It is rather surprising that Cannon hasn't been able to lock down one of the Patriots' guard positions. He's flashed a lot of ability but hasn't been consistent as a pro.

59. Jon Ryan, P, Seahawks: Ryan ranked third this season in percentage of punts downed inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Fans will remember him for the touchdown pass he threw on a fake punt against the Packers.

60. Steven Hauschka, K, Seahawks:  

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AP Photo/Stephen BrashearOne-time Ravens castoff Steven Hauschka is a perfect 12-for-12 on playoff field goals as a Seahawk.
Hauschka has been very good for Seattle, but he did miss all three field-goal tries during a Week 16 game at Arizona, site of the Super Bowl.
61. Michael Hoomanawanui, TE, Patriots: He is huge human being who moves well for his size and is an adequate short-to-intermediate receiver. New England has a wide variety of players at their tight end position.

62. Tavon Wilson, S, Patriots: Wilson is a bigger strong safety who has yet to live up to his second-round draft position. He played just under 200 snaps on defense, but at age 24, he still has time to improve.

63. Sealver Siliga, DT, Patriots:  Siliga started getting regular playing time in Week 14 and has done a very good job of clogging interior running lanes and allowing the linebackers behind him to move less impeded.

64. Brandon Bolden, RB, Patriots: Bolden seems to be a Belichick favorite as a backup power running back and for his contributions on special teams.

65. Jonas Gray, RB, Patriots: Gray blew up against the Colts in the regular season and then quickly found himself in Belichick's doghouse. He is now well behind Blount on New England's depth chart.

66. Matthew Slater, WR, Patriots:  Slater is one of the premier special-teams players in all of football and has been since he arrived in the league.

67. Tony Moeaki, TE, Seahawks: Injuries at the position led Seattle to sign Moeaki off the street during the season. He made two starts and caught a scoring pass against his former team, Kansas City, in Week 11.

68. Bryan Walters, WR, Seahawks:  Walters has averaged 7.7 yards per punt return on 31 chances.

69. Kevin Norwood, WR, Seahawks: Norwood impressed as a rookie during training camp. He has nine catches for 102 yards and has run three pass routes with one target during the postseason.

70. James White, RB, Patriots:  With Stevan Ridley  and Vereen up for free agency this offseason, White could be the main complement to Blount next season. He is a smaller back with good receiving skills, unlike Blount.

71. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Patriots:  Garoppolo is the heir apparent to Brady, and by all accounts New England is high on the rookie. But no one is begging for the day to come when it is Garoppolo's team.

72. Alvin Bailey, T, Seahawks: Seattle needed Bailey to start at right tackle in the NFC title game, and he struggled.

73. Will Tukuafu, FB, Seahawks: Injuries forced the Seahawks to try other options at fullback. Tukuafu got the call.

74. James Develin, FB, Patriots:  Develin is an old-school, lead-blocking fullback with limited rushing ability, but he's a great fit for New England's extra-heavy run formations.

75. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Seahawks:  Lockette can be a dynamic player on special teams, and depth issues could lead Seattle to use him as a deep threat in the Super Bowl.

76. Jonathan Casillas, LB, Patriots:  Like Ayers and Blount, Casillas is another veteran the Patriots picked up after he was released by his former team (the Bucs) during the season. He provides depth and special-teams ability.

77. Brian Tyms, WR, Patriots: Tyms is a size/speed prospect who has shown some small glimpses of big-play ability, but has a long way to go.

78. Demarcus Dobbs, DT, Seahawks: Dobbs has played 53 snaps in the playoffs after playing none in the previous four games. Injuries have thrust him into a more prominent role.

79. Ryan Allen, P, Patriots:  Allen is the Patriots' punter and will likely play a relevant role in the Super Bowl, but he is down on this list because he has struggled throughout the season.

80. Patrick Lewis, C, Seahawks: Lewis started four games when Unger was injured and showed an ability to handle the line calls.

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AP Images/David J. PhillipNFC title game hero Jermaine Kearse finds a spot at No. 37 in the Super Bowl player rankings.

81. Lemuel Jeanpierre, C, Seahawks:  Jeanpierre is well-versed in the Seahawks' offense and also has filled in at center when Unger wasn't available.

82. Jordan Devey, G, Patriots: Devey has been a liability when given playing time, and at 27 years old, he won't be looked upon as a long-term answer at the position.

83. Danny Aiken, LS, Patriots: Listed as a center on the depth chart, Aiken is New England's long-snapper and might have a tough time making the roster in 2015.

84. Jeron Johnson, S, Seahawks:  An elbow injury suffered in Week 17 has prevented Johnson from contributing as a backup safety and special-teams player. He could return for the Super Bowl.

85. Cooper Helfet, TE, Seahawks: Helfet has two scoring receptions this season. Injuries have helped him get on the field, but not so much since Week 13.

86. Clint Gresham, LS, Seahawks:  Gresham has not had a bad snap in his five seasons with the team.

87. Marcus Burley, CB, Seahawks:  Seattle acquired Burley from Indianapolis during the offseason and he played extensively through Week 10. Improved health in the secondary has reduced his role.

88. Chris White, LB, Patriots:  White has a taller, athletic build and has some physical traits similar to Ayers, whom he backs up. But White's main contributions come on special teams, especially kickoff coverage.

89. Malcolm Butler, S, Patriots:  Butler is a backup safety and one of the best players on the Patriots' punt team.

90. Nate Ebner, DB, Patriots:  Ebner is a well-built defensive back who, like Butler, does his best work in punt coverage.

91. Darius Fleming, LB, Patriots: Fleming is at the very bottom of New England's depth chart at linebacker, but is a quality special-teams contributor.

92. DeShawn Shead, DB, Seahawks:  Shead played four snaps in the NFC title game when a shoulder injury sidelined Thomas. He's a top special-teams player who provides versatility as a combination corner-safety.

93. Mike Morgan, LB, Seahawks:  Morgan seems to be one of Carroll's favorite players as a core special-teamer.

94. Chris Matthews, WR, Seahawks:  Matthews is the only especially tall (6-5) wide receiver on the roster. He's been better than expected on special teams and made the key onside recovery Sunday.

95. Josh Boyce, WR, Patriots: Boyce entered the league as a promising wide receiver with excellent deep speed, but he has done very little with New England.

96. Joe Vellano, DT, Patriots:  Vellano got meaningful snaps at defensive tackle early in the season, but he has fallen out of favor and plummeted down the depth chart.

97. Garry Gilliam, T, Seahawks: A former tight end at Penn State, Gilliam made the key touchdown reception on the fake field goal Sunday. He has good feet for a left tackle and is a prospect. The team sometimes uses him as the jumbo tight end.

98. Landon Cohen, DE, Seahawks:  Cohen has shown up in the goal-line defense.

99. Josh Kline, G, Patriots:  Kline is finishing up his second season in the league, and while he moves well for an NFL guard, he lacks size and power at the point of attack.

100. Brock Coyle, LB, Seahawks: Coyle started two games when Wagner was out and wasn't great, but exceeded expectations for an undrafted rookie.

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Jim Rogash/Getty ImagesJonas Gray (No. 65 on the list) has not managed an encore of his 201-yard performance vs. the Colts.

101. Duron Harmon, DB, Patriots: Harmon is a Rutgers guy, a third-round pick in 2013. Unable to crack the lineup at safety, Harmon is strictly a special-teamer, but there is upside here.

102. Zach Moore, DE, Patriots: Moore is an intriguing rookie with a very long body type who could fill out to become a 5-technique. Coming from a very small school (Concordia), Moore has a lot of learning and growing to do.

103. David King, DL, Seahawks: Injuries have opened the door for occasional playing time, but Dobbs is ahead of him in the rotation.

104. B.J. Daniels, QB, Seahawks: Seattle loves the way Daniels has practiced, not only at quarterback but at other positions. That is why they promoted him to the 53-man roster.

105. Steven Terrell, S, Seahawks:  Terrell played 18 snaps against Dallas and provides depth in the secondary.

106. Keavon Milton, OL, Seahawks:  Milton played three snaps at Arizona in Week 16.
 
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