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Official 2014-2015 Atlanta Hawks Season Thread
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Bud deserves the most blame, but probably won't get a lick of it.
Great system, terrible coach.
Great system, terrible coach.
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Damn this was the Hawks year to shine. They got far though props to Coach Bud and my fellow westside Indy native Jeff Teague.
They were just way too overmatched, not healthy and LBJ is just too good. Korver blew it all playoffs. Shelvin Mack taking fadeaways when Jeff drops 30 to tie the game....
Good little run though no one would've expected this.
They were just way too overmatched, not healthy and LBJ is just too good. Korver blew it all playoffs. Shelvin Mack taking fadeaways when Jeff drops 30 to tie the game....
Good little run though no one would've expected this.
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Meh, go find me another coach winning 60 games and making the ECF with that 58 mil dollar roster. He isn't the best in game adjustment coach. But that's what u have assistants for. Bud diesnt have the luxury of having a team full of assistants like Kerr for example has. He had a great GM but he's still i timeout. Bud gets plenty of blame. He gets hammered by our local atlanta radio hosts all the time. Only to prove them wrong in the long run. He will def learn from this postseason and only get better. Only so much u can do when all 5 starters are hurt and u have one of the bottom 5 salaries in the league.
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this wasn't the year the hawks were suppose to shine. This is year 2 into a 5 year plan. And Danny Ferry has 3 years left on his contract. They Were JUST WAY Ahead Of Schedule and surprised everybody cause they weren't doing it tradionally or with any big name players. No team going into the season with a bottom 5 payroll in the league is suppose to win a championship. Or even make the conference finals for that matter. Coach Bud squeezed every single ounce of juice out now that roster and couldn't have possibly done any better or taken it any farther. All the media talked about was the cavs injuries. Hawks didnt make a big deal out of their injuries like lbj and Cleveland does. Millsap is probably gonna need shoulder surgury. Korver needs ankle surgery. Thabo just had leg surgery. Teague been on a sprained ankle since 1st round. Horford broke his pinky first round. Carroll shouldn't have even been playin after he hurt his knee. Schröder and Scott both broke their big toe right before the playoffs. Scott also was dealing with back issues. Hawks lost cause they couldn't knock down wide open shots. Plain and simple.
Hawks more banged up than the cavs and hawks dont have an 80 million dollar payroll and have guys to turn to when someone goes down. Not to mention adding mosgov, smith, shumpert, and Perkins and only having to part with a couple 1st round picks and dion waiters and u get 3 solid nba starters. The fact that we got guys out there like Shelvin Mack taking the last shot goes to show u how much of miracle it was for this team to make it this far. Korver is 34 years old, it wasn't his fault. He's not paid to be that guy. He never was. He's just a role player who makes bench player money. Couldn't have asked for more from kyle. He never had a team make it their gameplan and first order or business to shut him down. The wizards series beat korver down having to chase around 21 year old Bradley Beal. Korver should have been on pierce and Carroll should have been on Beal.
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Carroll is an idiot for coming back and playing.
hopefully he didn't injure his knee further for his $ake
hopefully he didn't injure his knee further for his $ake
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Yea for the hawks sake. Cause they damn sure better bring him back. Let Millsap walk.
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Next season folks won't be able to say the hawks dont have playoff experience at least. All our young guys got a great learning experience this playoffs to use going further. This team is either 1 elite scorer or a few minor tweaks away from a ring. In the owners hands to give the GM this offseason a respectable about of money to build a legitimate title contender. Not a bottom 5 salary.
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It was a good year. Hawks will be better off come 2016
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Time to go after Lamarcus Aldridge. Answer to all our problems. Hell let Millsap and Carroll walk and throw whatever LMA wants at him. Should just go over the cap and shoot for the sky after being this close. And if they do that they can max out LMA and give carroll 12 mil or so a year and add a couple bench Players, along with bringing over eddy tavares from spain and a solid player with the 15th overall pick. This team will only get better. Dunno why anyone would think we blew it. We were never beating thay cavs team unless we were 100% healthly or close to it and we weren't even close to being 100%. Hawks are in perfect position to do better going forward. Couldn't ask for anymore flexibility roster wise.
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+1 agree 100%. got all they could with this group. Glad our flaws got exposed so we know what we need going forward.
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Mike D'antoni > Bud.
It's one thing to install a great system, but if you can't adjust and tweak it when necessary, then you are no good. Bud made absolutely ZERO adjustments this post season. Dude is trash.
It's one thing to install a great system, but if you can't adjust and tweak it when necessary, then you are no good. Bud made absolutely ZERO adjustments this post season. Dude is trash.
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Main thing I love about this hawks team is when they lose it's everybody's fault and when they win it's a collective effort. It's no 1 guys fault we didn't do better. Or 1 guy that brought us this far. It took everybody fron the very top in the gm to the last man on the roster (Elton Brand) to get this team this far.
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And that's what hurt you guys the most.
Too many soldiers, and not one general.
And that's what hurt you guys the most.
Too many soldiers, and not one general.
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Adjustments wouldnt have saved this series either way, they weren't good enough to beat the Cavs, simple as that. Plus what adjustments? The best guy suited to D LeBron has a broken leg, and theres not much they could do differently on offense, their most potent offensive guy got hurt, and they have no real ISO players. Their best chance was to keep running the sets they were running all year, and it just was never going to be enough.
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Lol call a dude trash after he just won coy. Just cause he lost to lebron james? Guarantee there are bout 28 other teams out there who would pick up Bud the second he hit the open market.
Just needs assistants like every head coach has. Why don't u take a look at Kerr's assistants vs Buds. Dantonio wouldn't have even made the playoffs with this group. Much less win 2 round's with it.
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+1 couldn't have said it better myself. Hit the nail right on the head. Great post sir. Why i always said ECF was all I expected.
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How about u look at it like how in the hell did this team make it to the final 4 without a james harden, lebron James, or mvp steph curry. Cost money to get a general. The Atlanta Hawks ownership didn't provide the gm the appropriate amount of money needed to get "a general" only guy they went out and got was thabo and he was nypd'd right before the playoffs. People don't understand what thabo meant to this atlanta team.
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And i will not we watching the NBA finals because lebron is there. He's great and all but I've had enough of him and his over dramatic antics on the court. To his ugly game that's basically a shaq who can dribble in today's nba to him faking hus own injuries to make it seem like he's doing more. Psh. Aint foolIn me. I hope they get swept and they should cause they won't have an answer to steph curry like atlanta didn't have an answer for lebron without a healthy Thabo, Carroll, Millsap, Teague, Korver.
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Even tho I've been hard on millsap these playoffs. I didnt know his shoulder was that hurt. He is going to need surgery on that shoulder. Never heard a peep out of him using it as an excuse for his subpar play and never missed a game. Big Ups to Paul Millsap. Still don't think hawks should resign him unless they can't get lma, gasol, or b lopez. Or maybe even Greg Monroe. Paul is a really good player just not the guy this team needs currently at the PF spot. Just too small.
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I just don't understand why the hawks have to stay under the salary cap and expect to win ring when all the other contenders are over the cap. Is there a rule or something preventing them from going over the cap? Why can Houston and cleveland have an 80 million+ roster but Atlanta cant? I know u have to pay the luxury tax if u go over, but whose to say Ressler won't go over? How do all the experts already know that the hawks won't go over the cap? They threw 23 mil a year at Joe Johnson. Dunno why they can't throw that at lma or even Durant for that matter.
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do u have the answers to these questions?
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do u have the answers to these questions?
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Oh nah I'm in agreement, they have to go over the cap to do anything. Off the top off of my head the last team to win the championship while being under the cap was San Antonio in 2003.
Its not happening again in todays NBA no way, same reason the Thunder blew their best chance in their title window. Gotta be willing to spend money to win a chip its as simple as that.
IDK how willing a new owner will be to go over the cap right away, especially one thats in a "small market" Cleveland doesnt have to worry about that because they have the walking income generator known as LeBron James, and Houston is a large market team.
But look at what happened to Brooklyn, went way over the cap and it was all for naught.
That being said, the Hawks should do whatever they can to build a real title team come 2016, if I was them I would definitely consider going over.
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+1 thank u sir for the response. And i agree must go over the cap to win a ring in the nba today. I guess it's just gonna come down to what Ressler wants to do. Cant imagine he'd be any cheaper than the atlanta spirit group were. And i know atlanta isn't a large market but it's def not small. I mean are 25 other cities bigger markets than atlanta? I mean even Portland has a 92 mil $ salary. Hawks even had a cheaper team than Milwaukee did. Pretty sure they had the cheapest team of all the 16 teams who made the playoffs. If there was ever a time for an atlanta hawks team to break the bank the time is right now considering they're right on the brink. Doesn't take a superstar to win a ring but It damn sure takes a team with a respectable payroll. And 58 million isn't respectable.
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Anything under a 70 million $ team is inexcusable going into the next season from my POV.
