FOX *CBM thread - RIP STAN LEE - Dark PhoeniX 06/07/19

Where Do You Rank LOGAN Among CBMs?

  • Best CBM to Date

    Votes: 13 16.7%
  • Easily Top 5

    Votes: 28 35.9%
  • Top 10, Maybe Top 15

    Votes: 29 37.2%
  • Mediocre at Best

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Not Good at All

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    78
I know its been mention here plenty of times, but my gawd the uniforms :x :smh:

Negasonic Teenage Warhead costume :pimp:

So the xmen costume in a spinoff movie is better than the costumes in an xmen movie? That makes sense considering it's fox.
 
A lot of yall dudes just coming off cranky as **** the way yall reacting now :lol:

If you want to be apologists and constantly defend this **** you gotta be more resilient.


And in the comics. 90s show thats all xavier did anyway.
No.

In the 90s comics, Xavier got tired of trying to convince him and after he hurt one of his X-Men Charles mind raped Magneto to near death.

Fatal Attractions :pimp: Magneto ripped Wolverine's adamantium off his bones so Professor X went ahead and mindwiped Mags. Crazy stuff and led to other future stories (Onslaught)

I thought I was gonna hate the movie, so much that I didn't bother watching the trailers :lol: but I didn't hate it, it was ok. Quicksilver still OP and Mystique as leader of the xmen is still meh. Four Horsemen were useless except for Magneto. I thought they tried to fit too many ideas into one film
saw Phoenix coming a mile away. Too soon and should've been more epic
apocalypse was weak. I did enjoy the cameo I thought he said he wasn't in this one? The helmet/outfit was a nice touch.
 
Yeah this movie was pretty decent. I'd easly put it above MCU movies like Thor 1/2, IM3, First Avenger, easily better than BvS, not as good as Deadpool or CW obviously.

DoFP is still the best X-Men movie.

I'll post my full review/pros and cons list later.
 
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It was OK, felt more like an older Singer xmen vs the last. Got some gripes, but I'll leave it be till next weekend.
 
Fatal Attractions :pimp: Magneto ripped Wolverine's adamantium off his bones so Professor X went ahead and mindwiped Mags. .

I still have both of these holographic trading cards. 2 of my favorites.
another is wolvie in his farmer clothes with his hands wrapped and the bone claws out
 
Full spoiler free review

Pros:

It doesn't even need to be said anymore, McAvoy and Fassbender are the best things to happen to this franchise. Performances from both are stunning as usual. Bald Professor X in his full suit only appeared near the end obviously, but by the point there was no trace of "goofy" McAvoy Charles anymore, just a Professor X who was bout dat action. Singer did a good job of depicting/finalizing that transformation.

Magneto as a whole was just flourishing the whole movie. His costume was fantastic, his cape was pimpin, and they finally decided to amp his power to comic book levels. Massive amounts of metal manipulation, force fields, the whole nine. What route they're taking him at the conclusion of this trilogy is up in the air honestly. But without spoiling anything, I will say if they want to put Fassbender into the New Mutants movie, there's a clear cut place for him now. I think they should.

Cyclops. Like I said he already established himself as the leader of the "kids" damn near as soon as he entered the mansion. I think the next film is going to properly depict him as the boss. I have no idea who that actor is but he did a great job.

I thought I would hate Sansa Grey, but I was wrong. I would say that Jean is the MVP of the movie, but I can't because Quicksilver. 
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I won't say anything else to avoid spoilers.

Nigthcrawler was coo as comic relief.

Oscar Issac's PERFORMANCE as Apocalypse was fantastic. I repeat, the PERFORMANCE was great. The actual CHARACTER, and the choice of his depiction, was buns, hot garbage. I'll get into that in a bit.

QUICKSILVER. 
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They gave him another slowmo scene, which I guess people might think is rehashing from DoFP, but I loved it. It was longer and the actual speed feats he was pulling were much more impressive. Aside from that, there's some good character exposition and development on his part. I expect another Quicksilver scene in the 90s based movie.

Storm was great, but she shone more as a character and had more lines towards the beginning. In the final battle, she was just a mute enemy for the X-Men to fight, and then she obviously became an X-Man at the end. Alexandra Shipp is a goddess.

The humor is good. It's not overbearing like a Whedon movie but it's in there. They even pretty much explicitly threw shade on X3
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Wolverine's cameo was pointless and the movie didn't need it, but they DID do a good job of hinting at the Jean/Wolverine relationship of the previous movies.

I think this movie can count as a complete, unofficial reboot. Pretty much nothing from the old movies has made it into Apocalypse besides Logan. Wolverine 3 is already known to be Jackman's last movie and we know it's in the future since Patrick Stewart will be in it, so he will not be in the 90s movie. This is a good opportunity to take the X-Men into a new direction.

Going along with that, yes the scene with everybody's comic costumes takes place around the end. But it IS a cool scene, and I dig the costumes.

The score
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great mix of 80s music and some good orchestral stuff. When Jean flourishes in the final battle the music fits perfectly. Angel's transformation to Archangel is done to heavy metal and it sounds awesome.  And I will never get over the X2 theme song
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Cons:

Apocalypse was BUNS
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Oscar's performance was great, and the actual lines that were written for him were fantastic, but he looks nothing like how Apocalypse should look for one, and secondly his powers were so poorly defined that it just made the final battle seem kind of dumb. He does NOT display any of his original/most basic mutant power from the comics (the shapeshifting/sizechanging, he does do a little bit of regeneration). He claimed to have acquired a ton of abilities over the years, but the only  powers I really remember him showing  are teleportation, telekinesis, some super strength, and this weird ability to manipulate inorganic matter (which I guess is just his telekinesis). He can also augment another mutant's abilities and he will transfer his essence into another mutant every once in a while. The way they beat him was also whack. Clearly a MCU-level wasted villain. If it weren't for Isaac's performance and his great lines I'd rank him below Malekith and Aldrich Killian, but Oscar Isaac did what he could with what he had.

Too much CGI. The Double Toasted guy described it as "slop", and that's kind of what it is. A lot of green screening and stuff flying around. Singer was always good with melodramatic, character driven stuff like in DoFP and X1/2 but sadly there's a lot of flashy, CGI stuff.

Storm and Magneto are great when considered individually, but on a whole the 4 Horsemen stink. Psylocke has less than 10 lines the whole movie (even though I really never cared about the character anyway, she was there for fap fanservice). Angel was the Hawkeye of the team and his character is wasted. I don't think Psylocke and Angel will return for future movies TBH because there was nothing anchoring them to the overall narrative.

Jubilee was cool in the beginning, but she literally kind of disappears from existence until the end
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Mystique
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I'm not going to diss JLaw like everyone else does, she's not a bad actress in this at all. But this is the wrong interpretation of Mystique's character. Singer was right when he called her the Harriet Tubman of Mutants
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there really is none of the Mystique from the previous trilogy anymore. And she's an X-Man
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Charles randomly simping over Moira 20 years later

The final battle dragged on, wasn't particularly entertaining, and Apocalyse's defeat was anticlimactic.

I'd say if you're a fan of X-Men, go check it out in theaters. There's a lot they do right, but a couple things they do too wrong to forgive.  I say maybe a solid 6/8, maybe a little less. But overall a poor follow up to the classic that is DoFP.
 
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It was OK, felt more like an older Singer xmen vs the last. Got some gripes, but I'll leave it be till next weekend.

As I watch it really does feel like a big rehash of early 2000 X movies. A lot of the same typical storytelling.

Magneto ends DofP with that big warning talking like he about to put in work from here on out but to start this off he's a family man. Felt like Singer just wanted to do a version of the comic Magneto sad origin. This version with the bow and arrow was just dumb.
 
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It was OK, felt more like an older Singer xmen vs the last. Got some gripes, but I'll leave it be till next weekend.

As I watch it really does feel like a big rehash of early 2000 X movies. A lot of the same typical storytelling.

Magneto ends DofP with that big warning talking like he about to put in work from here on out but to start this off he's a family man. Felt like Singer just wanted to do a version of the comic Magneto sad origin. This version with the bow and arrow was just dumb.


I legit laughed at that.

Also....

His Daughter isn't Polaris??!?!!
 
It was OK, felt more like an older Singer xmen vs the last. Got some gripes, but I'll leave it be till next weekend.

As I watch it really does feel like a big rehash of early 2000 X movies. A lot of the same typical storytelling.

Magneto ends DofP with that big warning talking like he about to put in work from here on out but to start this off he's a family man. Felt like Singer just wanted to do a version of the comic Magneto sad origin. This version with the bow and arrow was just dumb.


I legit laughed at that.

Also....

His Daughter isn't Polaris??!?!!
No need to keep this in spoilers cuz the movie ain't about it and I doubt it'll ever cover this.

Polaris is his 3rd (now 2nd) daughter in the comics. Magneto's first daughter with Magda (or w/e his wife's name was) was named Anya not Nina. After WW2, he became a family nan, fell in love and lived in some small town in Europe (don't think it was Poland). He wasn't on that mutants are better steez or anything. He ends up using his powers to save somebody and then that night a mob of the town's ppl came through with torches and pitch forks Frankenstein style and set his house on fire.

His wife barely got out while his daughter was still on the top floor and she burned to death. Magneto is in pain and lashes out in anger and kills everybody :lol: His wife sees all this in horror and is scared ******** that her husband is a monster. Leaves him (not telling him she was pregnant) and this is where the villain we all know is born.

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The continuity is all ****** up here in the movies but I guess it doesn't matter. Magneto becomes a Nazi hunter after the war, knocks up some chick and obviously had Wanda and Pietro, then goes starts another family and we know how that ends up to basically spur him back in to action.
 
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Yikes I knew this movie released in some places but didn't know spoilers would be dropped in here :lol:

Be back on Thursday...
 
Those bastards Kinberg and Singer RUINED Apocalypse! RUINED!

Why was that ending so bad? What the **** for real!?

Why does the ************ with wings die in a plane crash? And it aint like he got a clipped wing like a bird, he has METAL ******* wings!

Why does a pep talk about family from Mystique make Magneto change his mind? Where is Vin Diesel to make sense of that? Like my dude okay you use to smash Raven and moved on but some 15 yr old yambs got you changing your mind? Why does he watch her get choked out and do nothing but once Apocalypse starts walking towards Charles again he finally makes his move? What happened to your dead wife and child? You got issues if you think you over that bruh. Why the **** you giving us a collage of all the Magneto and Xavier scenes before he makes his move? :lol:

Why didn't they just let Apocalypse snap her neck?

Why is Beast trying to attack Apocalypse when Magneto and Scott are clearly blasting him and throwing everything they can at him?

Why was Jean taking so damn long to attack? How many times Charles gotta say "UNLEASH!!!!"?

Why does this version of Mystique exist at all? Like this is clearly Singer creating a character that does not exist in the X-Men universe. There is no mutant pioneer "doing the right thing" (let's not forget she was there to assassinate Trask) and then getting their Harriet Tubman on freeing mutants from ****** up situations around the world. That's just something a bunch of good ppl who happened to be mutants did across the X-books. That he tried to say started with her and basically make her the Jackie Robinson of mutants is so forced.

Why was my boy Željko Ivanek in this movie for like one scene and one line?

Why does Mystique clearly impersonate Striker and save Logan at the end of DofP only for him to still get captured, experimented on, and have adamantium laced on his skeleton? Like does she really think just saving mutants and sending them on their way instead of to Charles' school is the best idea?

Why was Wolverine being let out to run wild on them dude's Weapon X style the best scene in the movie? :smokin

I at least figured out where this story came from. Singer adapted this off of the horrible Ultimate Apocalypse event in the ultimate comics. Down to him controlling some mutants and having all their powers to ganging up on him to Jean saving the day with the Phoenix force. Just missing looney toons gangster Sinister. It was so bad. So bad.

I know Feige watched this like yo Russo bros. you know this is what we're NOT doing with Thanos right? :lol: :smh:
 
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