FOX *CBM thread - RIP STAN LEE - Dark PhoeniX 06/07/19

Where Do You Rank LOGAN Among CBMs?

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  • Easily Top 5

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  • Top 10, Maybe Top 15

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  • Mediocre at Best

    Votes: 5 6.4%

  • Not Good at All

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Reviews comes out tomorrow iirc.


And that "I am proud of it. It’s not a disaster" quote is a bit misleading for a title, meant to drum up outcries and ridicule. It tries to imply that Kinsberg thinks the movie is just bleh. The whole quote goes:


“I am proud of it. It’s not a disaster. It’s a good movie."

"I find Fantastic Four a hard book to adapt. I think the tone is very tricky it. It’s deceptively simple. Figuring out the comedy and the drama and the powers themselves are hard to fit into a tone that is as grounded as we wanted to make it. But I’m happy with the way that it turned out. I really love this cast, and I want to keep making movies with them.”
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And contrary to other reports, whether you want to believe it or not (it'll likely surface later anyways if it's true or not) is that they actually went under budget and was right on time with the production.

“What I do think we had was a very young director making a very big movie. And a director that, for whatever reason, people were either rooting against or his personality troubled the press. So it just got viewed differently than any other movie that’s a tough movie. We came in on schedule, under budget, [with] a movie that was pretty true to the original intent of the film. Whether people like it or not, it was his vision, which was a more grounded, a much more real version of Fantastic Four. Was it an easy production? No. Was it harder than a lot of the movies I’ve been on? No. But I may also have a higher threshold. I think there was something about Josh’s identity that made him a good target. I’m not sure what that is.”
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But whatever strengths Fantastic Four has, it does not feel like a movie directed by Trank (who made such a striking debut with 2012's bold anti-superhero fable Chronicle) or for that matter by anyone. It's a muddled and underdeveloped origin story which segues jarringly from light-hearted adventure to heavy-handed grit, grasping for a gravitas that it hasn't earned. The biggest mistake here seems to have been trying to marry a dark and realistic tone with the story of four teenagers whose superpowers include transforming into rock, generating force fields and becoming very stretchy. While far from the unmitigated disaster some had predicted, Fantastic Four feels unlikely to kick-start a new franchise, barely sustaining the narrative steam to power itself through its modest 90-minute running time. [3/5]


SOURCE: Digital Spy
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A sense of heaviness, gloom and complete disappointment settles in during the second half, as the mundane set-up results in no dramatic or sensory dividends whatsoever. Even if lip-service is paid to some great threat to life on Earth as we know it, the filmmakers bring nothing new to the formula, resulting in a film that's all wind-up and no delivery. If the writers couldn't think of anything interesting to do with these characters in this first series reboot, they do nothing to inspire the viewer to expect they could do something exciting with a sequel. Beginning with Teller and Jordan, who have done such promising early work, the cast is utterly wasted here with mostly rote explanatory dialogue and little conflict or nuance to work on a dramatic level. And the visual style is in a dark, unattractive gloomy mode that infects every aspect of the film. Near the end, Teller's Reed comments on the status of the group's actions by proclaiming, “We opened this door, we're gonna close it.” The sooner the better.


SOURCE: The Hollywood Reporter
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Not helping matters is the sheer ugliness of the final battlefield; the digital fakery is so very obvious that it’s difficult to engage with their surroundings as an actual place. To its credit, the movie does a fine job of portraying Reed’s stretching, Ben’s craggy body and Sue’s force field. (Johnny, alas, suffers from having a very cartoony face when his flames are on.) With all this tedious Tinkertoy origin-story business out of the way, there could certainly be some entertaining “Fantastic Four” adventures in the future with this ensemble. Whether or not audiences will want to gamble another 100 minutes of their lives on subsequent chapters, however, is another matter entirely.


SOURCE: The Wrap
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Ultimately, Fox’s stab at reviving one of its inherited Marvel properties feels less like a blockbuster for this age of comics-oriented tentpoles than it does another also-ran — not an embarrassment, but an experiment that didn’t gel. And having seemingly missed twice in trying to get “Fantastic Four” right, the studio, unlike Reed, might want to think seriously before making any more trips back to the drawing board...All told, the movie feels like a protracted teaser for a more exciting follow-up that, depending on whether audiences warm to this relatively low-key approach, might never happen.


SOURCE: Variety
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Those earlier tweets posted saying it was amazing were plants by FOX :lol:

If you're waiting for reviews, stick with the ones you've trusted for past movies or at least until enough ppl have rated it on RT and MC.
 
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I'm waiting to see what a couple folks on NT say before I check it out.. The trailers have gave me zero desire
 
Getting killed on reviews but I enjoy almost every superhero movie I watch (except Green Lantern...screw that piece of ****)
 
Going to see this on Friday.

I don't predict I'll be blown away but I expect this to be as good as the most statistically average Marvel Movie
 
Red band much better

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Morena Baccarin alllllll day
Loved her since V


thats the same trailer from comic con. looks entertaining at least. still not pressed about it..



spotted my boy the REAL Daario
 
This is definitely looking like the movie we finally deserve. Not one ounce of skepticism left after watching that trailer.
 
Master Zik said:
itsaboutthattime said:
nomnomdestroy said:
Getting killed on reviews but I enjoy almost every superhero movie I watch (except Green Lantern...screw that piece of ****)
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Wolverine origins?
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No way he enjoyed the Ghost Rider movies :lol:
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Was going go through a list one by one to see where the line is.. Like get his feelings on the use of clouds, in light of his feelings on green lantern (his views on the rise of the silver surfer)
 
That F4 honest trailer had me laughing and got me mad how they recapped how so many bad superhero flicks make use of clouds :smh: :lol:

I dunno if they're lazy or just that unimaginative.

I can see GL fans being extra salty after F4 seeing GL making Parallax a cloud. Make me wonder if all these writers were big fans of the smoke monster.
 
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The Deadpool trailer

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And I am prolly the biggest Deadpool hater there is. That trailer made it look like it would be better than all but (maybe) the last two X-Men (which is not saying much)
 
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